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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI imagine there are mixed feelings in Miami's Little Havana today
Those feelings are going to be largely (not exclusively) generational. Cubans have always been a part of the Florida landscape, but a huge wave arrived after the Revolution. This generation is aged, and stridently anti-Communist and anti-Castro. This Generation has never forgiven JFK for the Bay of Pigs. Then there are the Marielistas -- those who came in the 1979 boatlift. Some who fled poverty, and others who'd been let out of Castro's jails. Many of Miami's Cuban Americans are just that - born in America to parents, grand parents, or great grandparents who came over in the past 50 + years.
Make no mistake about it, the Castro bros. (Raul & Fidel) violated human rights; failed to ever deliver anything remotely close to democracy; let Cuba be used as a cold war Soviet pawn; and have committed torture and murder. They are not nice guys. Having said that, they've dramatically improved health care for all Cubans and they've brought literacy to most of Cuba.
It's easy to be critical of Marco Rubio, and to be sure, he's pandering to his base. I am truly sympathetic to those whose relatives were jailed or killed by the Castro regime, or whose families have been irreversibly divided by the Cuban/American rift. It's also worth pausing for a moment to remember the many Cubans who died at sea atempting to escape Cuba, and who never reached America
Nevertheless, this is a good thing. I know it's going to be difficult for some, just as normalizing relations with Vietnam was difficult for some who'd served in the war, as well as some who fled here in the aftermath of the fall of the South.
I posted this in LBN as my basic reasons this is a good thing.
1) We've tried embargo and isolation for 50 years. It hasn't worked.
2) Time is working against the Castro brothers, not for them.
3) We're not in a position to lecture anyone on human rights (#Ferguson # ICan'tBreath #TortureReport)
4) It's a good move for American agriculture
5) We've fought a war and subsequently normalized relations with Vietnam in the in the period between the Castro revolution and today.
6) Cuba has its faults, but it's not Iran and it's not North Korea
7) ..and I'd add that most every other western democracy has a relationship with Cuba at this point.
If nothing else, the time has come to talk to Cuba and engage them.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)K&R
eissa
(4,238 posts)Not a fan of the Castros, but the Cuban people deserve better than what those brothers and our embargo have done to them.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)US: Torture, murder, an illusion of democracy, being used as a pawn for neoliberal ideology, violating human rights.
However, the US has fallen way short of Cuba on health care and literacy.
hunter
(38,311 posts)I see this in my own community.
Years ago, "white" people lived on one side of town, "Mexican" people on the other, and it was like this in much of California.
Nowadays the kids mostly don't care. The divisions are now economic: those who are getting ahead, and those who are falling behind. Still struggling first generation immigrants, and everyone who learned English as kids watching television.
I'm California pseudo-Protestant White. My wife is Native American Mexican Irish Catholic. My grandfather was at first upset that I was, in his own words, marrying a "Mexican girl," like he should talk, with his own share of Irish Catholic blood. He didn't attend our wedding. To his credit he got past that. But his was the last generation that cared. If I win Darwin's lottery and have great grandkids they'll probably represent all of earth's major and a few minor continents.
There are still extremists on either side of my family, but that's how most people see them: As extremists.
I imagine it's the same in the Cuban U.S.A. and Cuban communities. Mostly the younger generations don't understand the fuss.
eridani
(51,907 posts)No ChopChop squares in Cuba.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)..but your point is well taken -- we have "allies" who routinely execute, torture, enslave, practice religious intolerance, and rule as absolute monarchs.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Post of the day, in my opinion, and want to make sure others get to see it.