I'm not seeing it.

Some people understand the difference between right and wrong.
Some people do the right thing because it is the right thing.

And some people do things because they are politically easy or expedient.

What was she supposed to COMMIT to?

As for your last statement ... Is that why Warren keeps saying "I am NOT running" in the present tense?

Hillary does not commit to any public policy positions
without checking which way the political winds are blowing.

Is she for or against torture?
Is she for or against Ferguson police brutality?
Is she for or against Cromnibus?
Is she for or against repealing repealing Dodd-Frank?

the campfire.

The primary process hasn't even begun. A full plate of candidates from which to choose enriches our democracy, so in that sense, we need MORE competition, so that our democracy can most benefit. (I know that effectively today it doesn't seem like this works, but in theory it does).

If someone else benefits from HC's weaknesses, that's just how it goes.

I am SURE it's a good thing that we find out, that America finds out, the difference between the two.

Her silence is deafening.

But I'm loving it and if she can become any more invisible, we'll all be the better for it.

She's just a wonderful wonderful woman and has done SO much for ALL of us.

She needs a break, I want her to go away now.

and restate those positions is not necessary. I see you do not like Hillary but to think she should be out stating her opinions on every thing is not necessary. Which other states person do you hear everyday calling bullshit on the budget and banks?

http://ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm

prejudices are duly noted. I know you would like to see her out everyday and then complain about what she says or does not say, and in time when and if she announces she is running for president she is totally free to use her time as she sees fit.

I'd prefer a primary on a level playing field, but that ain't gonna happen.

Low information voters don't look up information, will vote for the one they know over a stranger, facts be damned.

It's my mission to level that field.

I respect HC and I agree with her stand on many things. But EW just is such a strong, vibrant personality.

I just am having trouble getting past the whole Clinton political machine thing. I feel the same way about the Bush family. (Not that I like the Bush family politics and I have always supported the Clintons.

This is a hard one for me.

I was just trying to learn about the choices, I liked Tsongas and Kerrey and Harkin but LOVED Jerry Brown.

Clinton was nobody to me but early on I saw some backstage clip of him lambasting some staffers and I know right then he was bad news.

When I learned Governor Clinton ordered the execution of a lobotomized black man in January 1992, that was it. Fuck him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Ray_Rector

He and Hillary are beneath contempt, greedy, egotistical, and have done more to help themselves and the rich than they have the little people.

Worse, they've used us to gain power.

she has work to do in the Senate and Clinton is a private citizen; what would you have her do? Besides drop dead, of course.

EW is doing what she was elected to do. If Clinton is hurt by that, then maybe she shouldn't run.

There was even a cartoon about it this morning ( I think it was this morning).

Warren is doing her job. She's not going to water her rhetoric down for Hillary.
What has Clinton done that needs attention right now?

Most Americans would prefer this approach but the DC club doesn't roll like that.

Whether any candidate could withstand the corrupt powers that be of the current system is debatable but truly refreshing.

Unfortunately Hillary has chosen a more politically expedient route that may win but appears to be more of a win for Wallstreet and the status quot rather than the American people.

JMO...

Hillary can try and create her own thunder any time she wants. But Hillary, for the purposes of governing and legislation and getting things done - is just a bystander right now. She is not entitled to a spotlight.
Warren is in no way "hurting" Hillary.

only Senators have been elected President?

They want the fight. Good ink.

Elizabeth Warren is only doing her job. If doing her job hurts Hillary, Hillary should find a mirror and wonder why that is.

I was really irked by all those "Inevitable Hillary" posts and incredibly relieved when some alternatives started cropping up.

It was Hillary who presumed she had already been crowned Queen of the World without having to go through the bother of a coronation. Well guess what - she's aligned herself with policies that threw people like me under the bus, and we don't feel like voting for her if we can have another choice.

The worst thing for a candidate is to be an unopposed shoo-in. You can't raise any money that way. You need a credible opponent.

With Warren looming, the Hillary supporters will be opening their wallets big time. If Hillary were seen as the anointed queen, she would be getting very little.

healthy for American democracy (lower-case 'd') and beneficial to the Democratic Party (upper-case 'D'). Imagine the contrast with the Republican Klown Kar Konvention this year -- just think back to 2012 -- and Democrats should be clamoring for this type of primary debate. It would be absolutely fascinating and enlivening.

If anything, Warren is helping all dems and especially national dems. If Hillary is the next nominee, she will have moved to meet Warren. Warren is changing the narrative and framing what will become Hillary's positions. Whether Warren runs or not, she is helping all of us.

add that Warren is also helping out American democracy (lower-case 'd')!

They blow right out of town.

That's why I really like storms.

I think Warren is a dem. the issues she's raising will help the dem nominee if the nominee is smart.
If Warren doesn't run and hillary is the nominee does anyone see any scenario where Warren does not endorse support and campaign for hillary. And vice versa. If Warren is the nominee does anyone think hillary would not throw 110% support to Warren. The women are dems. Each can bring their supporters to vote for the other. Sure there will be a handful of supporters who go nutty puma but not enough to tank the eventual dem nominee.
I don't see much negative if hillary is the nominee coming from Warren. I think Warren will be terrific for the dem nominee and a real factor in dems keeping the wh.

Warren seems to be more honest and committed, less beholden to Lobbyists.

Just my opinion, but I don't think anyone who wants to be President should be allowed to run. I'm in favor of drafting candidates.

Hillary refuses to hear us. This is why we want her in a challenged primary. We want her to address these issues.