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Limpbags, we're going to have to wait until Monday, when he comes down out of his weekend Oxy binge.

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Two murdered police officers. Needs no exploitation.

And before you alert, I'm posting an NBC news article from 5 days ago. This isn't something I made up. The protest movement has internal problems that must be addressed. And some of the protesters clearly got what they wanted.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Eric-Garner-Manhattan-Dead-Cops-Video-Millions-March-Protest-285805731.html

I suggest that it's all too possible that these alleged chanters are provocateurs themselves. At the very most they're angry and isolated elements.

But none of this means that they are representive of the entire anti-abuse movement.

What needs to happen is justice for the innocent victims of police abuse. What do say for them?

Yet clearly they are a faction. And when they pop up again, they need to be immediately identified, reported, and repudiated.

Would you stand with the movement in peaceful solidarity against police abuse?

Police officers who commit crimes should be punished.

Because their abuse and murder of innocent people has been repeated exonerated and excused under the authority of law.

The movement is working against the very fact that cops are abusing and murdering citizens and getting away with it.

That's why the names of Mike Brown and Eric Garner are central here.

So again, are you standing with those peaceful voices who are demanding justice for Garner, Brown and all the other victims of police abuse and violence?

I never said I wasn't.

And that means justice for all, citizen and police alike.

directed at me. Nowhere did I say or suggest that the movement was to blame. There are plenty of angry people outside the movement.

I think all killings by the police should be handled by a special prosecutor and if appropriate prosecuted vigorously. If cops were convicted and sentenced to non-country club prison this shit would stop. They do it because they can and they should be scared of going to prison.

Is extreme right wing "noise" that has been spamming protest info twitter feeds - posting stuff like the Scarface movie scene shooting up "communists" and tags of #policelivesmatter. There is so much of this vile gunk that it is hard for people who don't subscribe to Twitter (and thus can't block them) to sort through and get info about where protests are being held and such.

The matter has been polarized by the police - especially in the cities where the flashpoint incidents occurred like NY - taking a "you don't appreciate us for doing our jobs" approach instead of listening and making an effort to repair relations with the community.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/18/13000-sign-petition-urging-san-jose-police-to-oust-officer-for-controversial-tweets-about-protesters-sjpd-officer-phillip-white-chief-larry-esquivel-icantbreathe-blacklivesmatter-twitter/

Your response is basically that "it's the cops fault". Thank you for your honesty.

The police union just announced they would be using "extreme discretion" in performing their duties. Sorry, but they've been whipping things up instead of working on resolving matters.

The murder of human beings is a terrible thing, whether they happen to be wearing a police uniform or not.

Unless the victim is a cop?

Do you support what this cop did?

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/18/13000-sign-petition-urging-san-jose-police-to-oust-officer-for-controversial-tweets-about-protesters-sjpd-officer-phillip-white-chief-larry-esquivel-icantbreathe-blacklivesmatter-twitter/

That sort of thing - from a cop - whipped up the protests rather than resolved things.

It is a tragedy the deranged man killed 2 NYPD cops.

It is a tragedy NYPD cops killed Eric Garner.

Eye for an eye is not justice. Both are tragedies.

The NYPD could have done things to reduce the chances of the tragedy that happened to them, but they chose not to.

Eric Garner could have done some things to reduce the chances of what happened to him. And Michael Brown could have done some things to reduce the chances of what happened to HIM. Is that what you're saying?

The NYPD were hardly caught be surprise.

However, those two officers were caught by surprise in their car because the NYPD maintained a hostile stand off instead of working on reconciliation.

. . . This guy's primary intent was pretty clearly a murder-suicide of his girlfriend and himself. We honestly have no way of knowing -- with or without the alleged Instagram message -- whether he would have carried out such an act regardless of the NYPD's hostile attitude. It is, I believe, just as wrong to imply, in this particular case, that the NYPD "brought this on themselves" as it is to suggest the shooter's true motive can be drawn from an alleged Instagram message.

What I was trying to say was being twisted and pulled in that direction by the "interrogation", but I certainly don't believe that NYPD got their just desserts. No one deserves to die, no matter what the circumstance. This shooter was clearly deranged - this is more along the lines of John Hinkley, Jr. shooting Reagan in the name of Jodie Foster.

...but, yeah ... every inbred knuckle dragging, "law and order" type will/is out trying to discredit the anti police brutality/murder race profiling movement.

As human beings we can feel horrified by both police brutality/ murder and the killing of cops ... its easy its called human compassion

Obama will be called for not bringing in the National Guard soon enough. The timeline for the "reactionary backlash" of the New Civil Rights Movement may have just been sped up a great deal.

Fugg 'em.

Let me tell you a ironic story; I live in Seattle. We were having incidents of excessive police force against people of color, one flat out murder of a emaciated, alcoholic Native American whose carvings have been around Seattle for over 30 years. Very well known to the police.

The Seattle police department gets investigated by the Feds

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/27/justice/justice-department-seattle-police/

Look at this paragraph

And so what happens from this? Did police relations improve? Or did police depts.get angry at so-called "political correctness" and NOT address internal racism? Police are sporadically doing feel good, good deeds, I applaud that. Pictures of white cops doing nice things for black folk all over Facebook.

What they are not doing is saying "we have a problem with racism, and these are the steps we are taking to fix it, because we understand the seriousness of this issue, and fully acknowledge the part we play in perpetuating it" and until a problem is fully acknowledged and owned, it will never be properly addressed with workable solutions-- settlements with the federal government notwithstanding.