They are a huge force. Some describe them as a "private army".

I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world.
http://observer.com/2011/11/mayor-bloomberg-i-have-my-own-army-11-30-11/

They receive money directly from the financial elites.
http://wireofinformation.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/nypd-receives-4-6-milllion-usd-from-goldman-sachs-then-arrests-700-peaceful-protestors-at-occupywallstreet/

They police outside of NY.

NYPD opens branch in Kfar Saba Israel
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nypd-opens-local-branch-in-kfar-saba/

Case dismissed against NYPD over surveillance of Muslims in New Jersey
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2014/0221/Case-dismissed-against-NYPD-over-surveillance-of-Muslims-in-New-Jersey-video

They serve as a cutout for the CIA to engage in domestic operations.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/nypd-cia-terrorism_n_934923.html

the federal government, which has given NYPD more than $1.6 billion since 9/11
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/nypd-cia-terrorism_n_934923.html

They have been given accolades as hero's since 911.

They have a very powerful union.

It's a unique beast.

Paramilitaries. I appreciate the emotional response but this is a big fu and should not stand.

that they should be above the law. They expect their actions to go uncheck with no balances and since people are expressing their given rights to demostrates against their excessive brutality (which I might add has gone unchecked for years) they now feel the need to make outlandish statement to prevent any push back from the community. Disgusted by it all.

1PP might have some answering to do for this...can they even do this?

They're the ones with innocent blood on their hands.

We are not supposed to link the NYPD's prior actions or lack there of to these police officer's deaths because that might imply they brought this on themselves, but the police union itself is freely connecting the dots to Eric Garner and continuing on the same "wartime mentality" that we're not allowed to say led them there in the first place?

Dang that is f'd up.

Everyone appreciates the importance of police safety. But couldn't that have also been accomplished by showing some contrition for Eric Garner's death and making some moves toward reconciliation with the community? This "wartime" language is the problem!!!!

btw, is the "no enforcement action" a notch up the same spectrum as "extreme discretion" yesterday? At what point does it become "why are we paying these guys to drive around"?

We have the same brand of blue haloed shitbags here in Seattle.Hmm,Big,fat,ugly ,stupid,bald headed bully? Yep.It's a Seattle cop.

I remember the 80s when they framed homeless people for arson the cops were committing for insurance money.

Alcohol drug and steroid tests for them all. Regularly and after any "incidents"

been going on for years.

If you have not had a chance to listen to This American Life - Right to Remain Silent podcast you should. The second part of the podcast cover Adrian Schoolcraft the NYPD cop that his fellow cops had thrown in to a Psych Ward when they realized that he had been ratting them out for their illegal behavior. It also covers what can only be deliberate falsification of police reports even hiding the fact that there was a serial rapist at one time. The guy finally came in to confess one of the rapes and when he talked to a well decorated, well respected Detective who then start looking into it he found no reports on any rapes but police reports filed for crimes at the time and place of the rapes gave no indication of rape. The whole section of the podcast dealing with the NYPD is horrifying to say the least. I am attaching a link to the site where you can listen to it. It seems like the NYPD operates like a Third World Banana Republic police force at war with the locals.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent

will bookmark.

but i am sorry instantly this smacked me as strange. Why would a campaign charging racial bias by white police officers against black lives inspire an attack on two colored officers? not that lunatics ever make sense, but now suddenly there's an excuse for a cop war on the citizens of NY and an attack on the mayor who is black by association. deblasio is probably in serious danger as well as his his family. nypd is a gang. Something stinks bad about this man.

I have a feeling that this will be used an excuse to kill more people, and before the NYPD can say that anybody has blood dripping off of their hands they need to look at the blood pouring off of theirs first.

the culture of violence radiates from the police outward

I find it interesting that the NYPD feels free to make the decision to go to war without any elected decision-makers being in the loop.

Bloomberg used to brag about having the "7th largest army in the world" in the NYPD. It appears that that army has decided to go rogue!

PIX11 — Police officers turned their backs on Mayor Bill de Blasio as he walked into the police press conference about the two NYPD officers shot and killed execution-style in Brooklyn.

De Blasio weaved through the officers on his way to the presser with Police Commissioner Bill Bratton at Woodhull Hospital Saturday evening.

http://pix11.com/2014/12/20/video-nypd-officers-turn-away-from-mayor-de-blasio-as-he-enters-police-presser/

not a professional police department. The last thing we need is for the police to escalate the bad feelings with the community and its leaders.

Of course not.

Now they're using this tragedy to drive a false, self-serving point home. Namely, that their victims are unworthy of mayoral sympathy and their actions are always beyond public reproach. They disgust me.

They have been operating more like the mafia. See my post above with the link to a This American Life Podcast, the second story that has a whole lot to say about them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/nyregion/officer-adrian-schoolcraft-forcibly-hospitalized-got-no-apology-just-a-bill.html?_r=0

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2014/04/adrian_schoolcraft_lawsuit_graham_rayman_motion_to_compel_judge_robert_w_sweet.php

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/serpico-assist-whistleblower-suing-nypd-50m-article-1.1255305

for as long as they've existed!

Remember Frank Serpico? NYPD was full of cops on the take (for HUGE money) during that period (70s, I think).

that the cop(s) WON the Garner verdict. The cop wasn't indicted. What the FUCK would they do if a NYPD cop DID get indicted? Declare thermo-nuclear war on the city?

179 deaths caused in the last 15 years, three indictments and one conviction (with no jail time):

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/179-nypd-involved-deaths-3-indicted-exclusive-article-1.2037357

How dare anyone complain?

Bigot.

For the heinous action of a lone individual.

Anyone recall them in front of cameras blaming RW media or politicians?

Vegas Cop Killers Awash in Anti-Government, Rightwing Conspiracy
Local reporting: After fatally shooting two police officers, assailants placed 'Don't Tread On Me' flags over bodies

to escalate their war on black citizens.

They handle this sort of case all the time, a murder/suicide where the narcissist committing suicide tries to glamorize his act by involving others.

I expected exactly this reaction from them, play it up for sympathy and press coverage.

I'll repeat: "cynically using these deaths."

Of course not. Why do you support police criminality?

and the (still living) perpetrators not even arrested. We have chosen to protest peacefully.

Let's just be clear about who is declaring war here. It appears it is the pd not protestors.

You rob a store...attack a cop INSIDE the cop's car...punch the cop and grab for his revolver...you're gonna get shot to death.

That's not an execution.


And execution is snuffing out two cops who were sitting in their patrol car.

If you can't see the difference...YOU are the problem.

And anyone that would fall for that scenario is the problem.

This above me is the whole ball of beans.

Garner's family should remain calm.

Mike Brown's family should remain calm.

Tamir Rice's family should remain calm.

All of the people whose family members have been murdered by police should remain calm, not declare war on the cops, etc. It's just a silly death in the family, right?

But when one looney toon individual - WHO IS DEAD NOW - kills some cops, they have the right to scream and wail and act so victimized and declare WAR ON EVERYBODY? You JUSTIFY this?

What if Brown's family had declared war on Ferguson cops? Because they lost their brother?

THIS is the problem. You cannot tell people their children's lives don't matter and then turn around and declare war because your co-workers lives DID have value.

Only a snake and a fool and a demon would believe cops lives matter any more than anyone else's.

When the police openly declares war on the citizens... what is the next logical step?
(pin drops)

I looked for it on Netflix last night and couldn't find it. I figured YouTube would come through.

enjoy

http://peggo.co

“IN ADDITION: Absolutely NO enforcement action in the form of arrests and or summonses is to be taken unless absolutely necessary and an individual MUST be placed under arrest." Why arrest people if it's not necessary?

But I suspect it's a "work slowdown" as a protest tactic.

But don't you realize that there are people out there who voluntarily put substances in their bodies that some other people don't think people should put in their bodies?

Where the hell does this union get to dictate the NYPD policies?

This is effed up beyond belief.

but in fairness the police chief was fired because he gave a press conference after the city manager told him not to.

If done collectively then you can't punish individuals for collective action.

Labor law 101

“The mayor’s hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies,” read the statement, “and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a ‘wartime’ police department. We will act accordingly.”


What is acting accordingly?

is that the mayor has actual physical blood on his hands that is in sufficient quantities to actually drip off.

It's a pet peeve of mine when people use the word "literally" out of place.

The NYPD has many gallons of blood dripping from their hands. Who the fuck is in charge of these vigilante cops?

declare martial law, and disarm and fire the local constabulary (whose services are no longer required).

There, problem solved.

veiled threats against the public or public officials and remain employed. WTF??????

Disarm those pigs right now before any more civilians get killed.

threaten the public as they have with this announcement. (Darryl Gates at the LAPD was pretty obnoxious after the initial Rodney King acquittals in Simi Valley and I seem to remember Philadlephia's Frank Rizzo being a particularly nasty piece of work.) When George H.W. Bush sent in some 5,000 federal troops in 1992 in the wake of the Rodney King uprising, those federal troops backed up the CA National Guard and the LAPD. But the LAPD had basically withdrawn from the field in disarray during the Rodney King riots. (I'm relying on memories that have dimmed somewhat with the passage of time.) So the CA National Guard and U.S. troops restored order in Los Angeles, b/c the LAPD were largely MIA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

lose their job over it. I've never seen this happen.

He claimed to be retired and said that it is on DeBlasio's best interest to get along with the police. He also said protesters should be "silenced."

condemning today's murder of the two NYPD police officers as 'senseless.' Should Mike Brown's family also be 'silenced'? (Rhetorical question directed at NYPD and not at you personally.)

out of control

Ever.

Clearly you are a keyboard warrior with NO family members in the military.

If you had any family members with courage enough to be service persons, you would realize that they would back up their fallen brothers in a heartbeat.

was quite awhile back. One of my uncles was a Captain in the Army and another a Lt. Commander in the Navy.

Other than refute your neo-McCarthyite slur, I'm not going to dignify any of the rest of your post with a response, other than to ask whether you wave the bloody shirt all the time or only when you post on DU.

to protect me from the cops. He's a pretty wealthy guy. It should be fairly easy for him to arm them more heavily than the cops.

that is an interesting strategy.

I just saw some footage of the Mall of America protests from today and it does not make them look good at all. There was no reason to shut anything down. There was no reason to tell people to leave. The rotunda where the most activity took place has been the stage for many famous people and there have often been crowds of that size there. This really wasn't any more or less rowdy than an event like that. But, it was protestors so they might not have been there to spend money and consume stuff. It's some interesting times we live in.

The writer of this doesn't understand the meaning of the word "literally".

These police union spokesmen are truly scary people, aside from being poor writers.

me fucking crazy.

put the 101st Airborne in to deal with the corrupt local authorities.

And they can bring all those toys they recently acquired from the military surplus with them.

criticism that's been of the NYPD and saying, 'what you gonna do about it'?

Imbeciles.

.. that they have been waging war on the public for years.. They are ghoing to refuse to do their jobs? So what's new? Fire them when they don't perform the duties they are paid to do.

.. are lightyears apart. "Necessary arrests" in their reptile brains is more likely to be anyone who doesn't let them walk all over Constitutional Rights.

Sounds to me like they are calling for a work slow down and that includes only arresting people when absolutely necessary.

Which also sounds like an admission, to me, that they now arrest people when it is not necessary.

I trust nothing coming from the muscle end of a corrupt system. They will use this as just another excuse to further oppress innocent citizens doing nothing illegal. THAT'S what stormtroopers do, it's what they are.

I am making fun of their admonition that they will now only make necessary arrests. As if that is a threat to us. But it really is an admonition by them that they know they abuse the system and arrest innocent people.

Do I expect the officers to do this? Not at all. I expect them to seek vengeance in the worst way.

I just didn't catch on. Mea culpa.

Pals?

insubordination or a coup? Honestly, he is giving the police force instructions for such.

If the NYPD feels comfortable openly threatening the mayor and the public, can you imagine how jury members are handled? They are so out of control and entitled, it's scary!

This incident also sheds light on why MO's McCulloch has behaved like such a callous ass. He's scared for his life!

I'm actually very concerned about the mayor's safety.

He's One Of Them, just like the rest of his family. If you cut him, he'd bleed pure blue.

as not to exist in any practical sense.

As things seem to stand now we are leaving things like fully automatic high caliber machine guns, live grenades, and artillery in the preschool.

These fools have escalated already to the point of pretty much flat out saying that unless they are allowed to act with impunity and not only that be fawned over and worshiped for whatever abuses including flat out murder then it is "a shame about your nice city here" and a "wartime" footing.

They are far too dangerous to leave sitting around.

What the hell are they doing the rest of the time? Oh yeah, quite obviously, killing people unnecessarily.

And I have never heard any other union declare they are working under wartime provisions.

I seriously don't get how you can defend this bs.

It's more like those used by the Stasi or the Gestapo.

Seemed to work so well the last time.

... wasn't already a war dept. That's how we got here boofie.

between the slaughter we saw on video of a guy selling loose cigarettes and this act. If they want to call it a war, I would suggest they have been waging it for a long, long time and the other side just became engaged. Both sides need to calm the fuck down and figure out how to make things better rather than worse.

nm

Its nothing new to NYC. Labor actions happen in all kinds of departments.

In fact, its the exact same thing as a work slowdown by any other type of union, just a type of labor action. I know many here are hypocrites when it comes to workers rights and don't support unions for cops, but the reality is a labor action by cops is just as legitimate as one by any other group of workers. A true supporter of workers doesn't only support them for jobs they like.

I watched a neighboring agency in NC go through something similar. They had an officer disciplined for using a taser in a situation where it was 100% warranted, but it was the son of a prominent local activist who raised a stink (the son had been beating his wife, making such a scene the neighbors called 911). So the chief suspended him without pay for 3 months and has the domestic violence charges dropped. A couple of weeks later an officer was involved in a traffic accident during an emergency response and was fired- even though the dash cam showed the officer was correct and in compliance with traffic laws, and the driver of the other car did not yield to the lights and siren and in fact had headphones in. But the officer was fired anyway, because the press looked bad (child in the back seat of the other car was injured) and the chief wanted to be seen as "doing something". His justification was that the call (burglary in progress) didn't warrant an emergency response- even though response type was left to officer discretion unless directed otherwise and that agency almost always ran code for burglary in progress.

Keep in mind there was no union in this case, collective bargaining is forbidden by law in NC for all government employees.

So the officers quit running code to calls, unless it was an officer in distress. Because you could get disciplined or fired for an accident when it wasn't your fault, but couldn't get fired for taking a few minutes longer to respond in the name of safety. Why risk it if obviously the boss didn't want you to do so? Officers didn't go in to a domestic or anything else in a private residence without at least 2-3 others present- they stayed outside and said it was "too dangerous" because you could get fired for going in and ending it early using appropriate force, but couldn't get fired for playing it safe. They didn't arrest for anything unless it was a very serious crime, because making an arrest meant you might have to use force and that could get you fired, but giving a warning, not seeing the offence, writing a summons for something lessor that was just a ticket- well those were all lower risk actions. Any discrepancies with vehicles that would have been tolerated were written up as safety issues, etc.

It was essentially a "work-to-rule" of "rule-book slowdown" labor action done without a union.

Needless to say crime went up, citizens were unhappy, but the chief was stuck. His reputation was well known so he couldn't even manage to hire enough officers to replace the ones that left, so firing more was not an option. Crime was rising, citizens were unhappy with the responses and answers they got. That chief "retired" shortly thereafter.

Notice how they never act like this when anti-government nuts inspired by the Tea Party kill cops.

Of course, those are usually rural cops, sheriffs, state police, etc. I suppose the politics are different in a major urban department.

Wartime? This guy needs a psychiatric exam STAT.

they're grasping for the good ole days of 911 and billion dollar infusions from the feds.

the crowd coming in next month, they'll get some of that cash again.