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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:49 AM Dec 2014

Geraldo Rivera's Vile Statement

My gut is filled with fury at the execution of the two NYPD officers. This was premeditated murder; an assasination (sic) of two innocent cops with families who were just doing their job. Hopefully we've caught or killed the perps.

Now every person who protested against alleged police violence has to ask themselves, protestor and official alike, did something I did or said help lead to this? Did I add to the swirl of anti-police hatred that led this scumbag to commit an act of terror? Those photographed screaming in cops faces or those leaders who enabled this vitriol to fester, how do you feel about your rhetoric and your misdirected fury?

2 cops are dead, what will those leaders and protestors (sic) do now?

https://www.facebook.com/GeraldoRivera








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Geraldo Rivera's Vile Statement (Original Post) napkinz Dec 2014 OP
Begging the question... Sherman A1 Dec 2014 #1
those who protested police violence have to ask themselves if they are to blame? napkinz Dec 2014 #2
The MSM will trample us 24/7 now... FarPoint Dec 2014 #21
of course ... they will exploit this tragedy to try to silence the demonstrations napkinz Dec 2014 #49
Exactly... FarPoint Dec 2014 #56
Talk about hypocrisy! Gimme a break. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #3
Assholes like rivera on fox "news" have fueled the fire. Cha Dec 2014 #4
what they are really trying to do is crush the movement napkinz Dec 2014 #5
Of course they are.. but, I don't see why these words coming from them would stop people Cha Dec 2014 #8
I see it as them trying to shame the thousands who protested napkinz Dec 2014 #9
same way they handled MFM008 Dec 2014 #22
Two things: Boreal Dec 2014 #11
Don't forget the disabled and mentally ill in your list Ilsa Dec 2014 #18
Agreed Boreal Dec 2014 #19
African Americans are the most frequenct victims though brush Dec 2014 #20
Not true Boreal Dec 2014 #23
Of course we have to stick together to fight police killings . . . brush Dec 2014 #24
By a strict count of the numbers, more white males are victims of police brutality than black males. kelly1mm Dec 2014 #59
Proportionally — you are correct. nt brush Dec 2014 #78
"the alleged killer didn't do it... it was a hit organized by parties wanting to create sympathy" napkinz Dec 2014 #27
Well, it's not gonna work. Nothing is going to stop this movement against police brutality. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #52
they think they can shame those protesting ... but those protesting have NOTHING to feel shame about napkinz Dec 2014 #55
Precisely. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #14
I just remembered ... didn't Geraldo used to incite fights on his talk show! napkinz Dec 2014 #46
He's really an idiot ignorantly fanning the flames with this, napkinz. Cha Dec 2014 #62
Geraldo and his cohorts at FOX ... why hasn't anyone asked if THEY have blood on their hands! napkinz Dec 2014 #63
We're telling them.. they do. Cha Dec 2014 #64
remember when conservatives SUPPORTED threats against law enforcement officers ... napkinz Dec 2014 #65
Now I do! thanks.. they're not going to win their war of lies. Cha Dec 2014 #67
The problem is, will the MSM point out the hypocrisy of the right-wing or continue napkinz Dec 2014 #69
And, that's why we're here + Twitter ect.. social networking.. the US corpmediawhores hate it! Cha Dec 2014 #70
Uh huh Mr Rivers AndreaCG Dec 2014 #6
his next gig ... Trump's Celebrity Apprentice napkinz Dec 2014 #10
Words fail me AndreaCG Dec 2014 #12
To quote Stephen Colbert bvf Dec 2014 #7
Fox did everything in their power to ramp up the racial divide. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #13
FOX commentators are blaming President Obama and Mayor Bill de Blasio napkinz Dec 2014 #25
Disgusting is not strong enough. We have exhausted the English language in an attempt Enthusiast Dec 2014 #29
+1,000,000,000,000 Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #42
you're right, not strong enough ... so napkinz Dec 2014 #43
+1 Enthusiast Dec 2014 #50
Demonising those protesting for justice is not the way to go rizlaplus Dec 2014 #15
they hope to exploit the tragedy to shut down the protests against police brutality napkinz Dec 2014 #31
no, the protesters are not responsible for what a psychotic gun humper did Skittles Dec 2014 #16
if the right wing was called to answer for every DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #17
No we don't.. sendero Dec 2014 #26
Holding a whole group of people responsible for the actions of one person 6000eliot Dec 2014 #28
+1 Enthusiast Dec 2014 #30
Hey Geraldo ...Jerry wants to hire you as a co-host. L0oniX Dec 2014 #32
Geraldo Rivera, imposing a guilt trip on me? That'll be the day. (nt) Paladin Dec 2014 #33
Geraldo and his ilk don't understand that we can napkinz Dec 2014 #39
We should've just shoved him into Al Capone's empty vault and slammed the door ... AzDar Dec 2014 #34
I remember watching that live. zappaman Dec 2014 #57
It became utterly impossible to take Geraldo seriously after that incident. amandabeech Dec 2014 #71
... napkinz Dec 2014 #72
Ee Gads! You have to wonder whether he would like to take back that escapade. amandabeech Dec 2014 #76
Geraldo is an idiot Gothmog Dec 2014 #35
OMG i looked at that page and - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #36
Bernie Kerik, Bo Dietl, and Jeanine Pirro said President Obama and Mayor Bill de Blasio napkinz Dec 2014 #40
one person who responded to Geraldo got it right! napkinz Dec 2014 #44
Thanks! I started to post a comment to Geraldo but LiberalElite Dec 2014 #45
he's tweeting too napkinz Dec 2014 #61
2 cops are dead, and we already know what Geraldo would do... JHB Dec 2014 #37
he has a history napkinz Dec 2014 #41
Yeah, we know where "Jerry Rivers" stands on all this. Ken Burch Dec 2014 #54
... napkinz Dec 2014 #68
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #79
thank you Enthusiast napkinz Dec 2014 #80
Geraldo Rivera? 99Forever Dec 2014 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #47
uh ... "They come across the dregs of humanity" napkinz Dec 2014 #48
So Geraldo thinks that saying "I Can't Breathe" and "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" Ken Burch Dec 2014 #53
he concludes with the question, "what will those leaders and protestors (sic) do now?" napkinz Dec 2014 #58
and there he goes again ... napkinz Dec 2014 #60
Now every cop... Demsrule86 Dec 2014 #66
Blaming everybody but the guy who actually did it treestar Dec 2014 #73
to think, of all the things I can blame Geraldo for napkinz Dec 2014 #75
All I can do is show this video clip lol...it says all anyone needs to know about Foxnews stars. Rex Dec 2014 #74
There's a reason Turbineguy Dec 2014 #77

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Begging the question...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:58 AM
Dec 2014

why is anything that the "Esteemed" Mr. Rivera say or states worthy of note?

Does he have a right to his opinion, Yes.

Do I have to bother with him or what he says, No.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
2. those who protested police violence have to ask themselves if they are to blame?
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:07 AM
Dec 2014

This is what Geraldo and his racist conservative cohorts are putting out there.

It's truly despicable.

They have to be called out on it, every last one of them.










FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
21. The MSM will trample us 24/7 now...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:00 AM
Dec 2014

Any peaceful protesting momentum we had will take 5 steps backward...they will use this domestic origin shooting to inflame the public as a cop execution conducted by a protestor. No lesson will be learned...protestors will be met with increased force now.

Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
5. what they are really trying to do is crush the movement
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:34 AM
Dec 2014

they are trying to quell the protests against police brutality

they are exploiting a tragedy to stop a movement to protect the rights and lives of African-Americans



Cha

(296,893 posts)
8. Of course they are.. but, I don't see why these words coming from them would stop people
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:42 AM
Dec 2014

seeking Justice for #Eric Garner and #Michael Brown.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
9. I see it as them trying to shame the thousands who protested
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:45 AM
Dec 2014

... and they are trying to taint the movement

They want to make the face of the person who murdered the officers the face of the entire movement. And we can't let that happen. We must mourn the deaths of the officers, condemn their murders, but continue the fight for civil rights.








 

Boreal

(725 posts)
11. Two things:
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:37 AM
Dec 2014

1. Nothing like a couple of cops getting killed to crush dissent against police. Did it ever cross your mind that the alleged killer didn't do it and that it was a hit organized by parties wanting to create sympathy for the police and create a demand for "law and order"?

2. "movement to protect the rights and lives of African-Americans..."

Uh, screw all of the innocent other races (Hispanic, white, Indian, Asian, etc) killed by cops in this country, eh? Is this about race for you or the police state? More innocent people have been killed by cops in the past decade than all of the US troops killed in Iraq. Don't even get me started on the thousands of dogs. We live in a Nazi police state and making it only about race (black Americans) is racist and indicates everyone else murdered, beaten and molested by these monsters don't matter.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
18. Don't forget the disabled and mentally ill in your list
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:31 AM
Dec 2014

along with minorities. Cops are trigger-happy with them, too. RW thugs think they should be warehoused away from everyone, including their families. The lack of compassion is astounding.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
19. Agreed
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:36 AM
Dec 2014

Kelly Thomas (white) was schizophrenic. John Williams (Native American) was either deaf or very hard of hearing. Thousand more, I'm sure.

brush

(53,745 posts)
20. African Americans are the most frequenct victims though
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:49 AM
Dec 2014

It is racism, racism towards people of color mostly, and African Americans are the most visible people of color. Not being argumentative, just stating the obvious.

Rogue cops seem to be really trigger happy when it comes to African American men especially — it's a shoot first, don't even bother to ask questions later mentality.

And no one should dare question their actions either.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
23. Not true
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:05 AM
Dec 2014

While racism is sometimes a factor, far more not black people are murdered by cops. It's a police state issue and We the People are the enemy. Not that color should matter, anyway. An innocent life taken by these thugs is what matters. Would you feel any better about our Nazi police state if all of their victims were white or Hispanic? No! We have to stick together as HUMAN BEINGS because we are all at risk.

brush

(53,745 posts)
24. Of course we have to stick together to fight police killings . . .
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:56 AM
Dec 2014

but what do you mean by your title "Not True"?

I said I was stating the obvious that African American men are the most frequent victims of police brutality and killings. That is absolutely true, and racism is a huge part of it.

This is no new phenomenon to the black community. This has been going on for decades, if not centuries and is a direct legacy of slavery, patty rollers and the Dread Scott decision — "blacks have no rights which a white man is bound to respect" — from Emmett Till to Tamir Rice it continues.

I repeat, it's not new to the black community. We've been living in "occupied" neighborhoods for forever here.

The "police state" issue has come to the fore in recent years with the advent of security cameras and cell phone cameras everywhere recording police killings and brutality and the larger community is suddenly aware of it.

That is great!

I welcome that there is more awareness of it now and more people are joining the fight against the "police state", but trust me, it's not new at all to the black community.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
59. By a strict count of the numbers, more white males are victims of police brutality than black males.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:27 PM
Dec 2014

What I think your point is is that black males are PROPORTIONALLY more likely to be victims of police brutality than white males. That is also true.

Basically, let's say the police hit 1 out of 10 black males and they hit 1 out of 30 white males. In that scenario, blacks would be 3 times as likely than whites to be hit.

However, let's say in a given population there are 20 black males and 90 while males. Statistically, 2 black males and 3 white males will be hit. Thus, more white males got hit.

It is like the food stamps meme. Whites make up the majority of food stamp recipients. Blacks are disproportionately reflected in the percentage of food stamp recipients. Law of large numbers ......

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
27. "the alleged killer didn't do it... it was a hit organized by parties wanting to create sympathy"
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:08 AM
Dec 2014

really?

do you also believe in all the Tea Party conspiracy theories?


napkinz

(17,199 posts)
55. they think they can shame those protesting ... but those protesting have NOTHING to feel shame about
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:54 PM
Dec 2014

the fight for justice must continue




napkinz

(17,199 posts)
46. I just remembered ... didn't Geraldo used to incite fights on his talk show!
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:52 PM
Dec 2014

he even got his nose broken in a melee








napkinz

(17,199 posts)
63. Geraldo and his cohorts at FOX ... why hasn't anyone asked if THEY have blood on their hands!
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:32 PM
Dec 2014

nt





napkinz

(17,199 posts)
69. The problem is, will the MSM point out the hypocrisy of the right-wing or continue
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:17 PM
Dec 2014

to carry their water and help further perpetuate the lies?



Cha

(296,893 posts)
70. And, that's why we're here + Twitter ect.. social networking.. the US corpmediawhores hate it!
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:21 PM
Dec 2014

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
6. Uh huh Mr Rivers
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:36 AM
Dec 2014

This hack peaked 40 years ago with Willowbrook. He hasn't done a damn bit of good since. Stick to raiding dead mobsters tombs moron.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
13. Fox did everything in their power to ramp up the racial divide.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:59 AM
Dec 2014

And they are continuing to fan the flames. This is little different than the Nazi dialogue heard in pre WWII Germany against the Jews.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
25. FOX commentators are blaming President Obama and Mayor Bill de Blasio
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:03 AM
Dec 2014

for the deaths of the officers, claiming they created racial tension that led to the tragedy

They have no shame. It's disgusting.



Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
29. Disgusting is not strong enough. We have exhausted the English language in an attempt
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:09 AM
Dec 2014

to describe our contempt for the Fascists.

rizlaplus

(159 posts)
15. Demonising those protesting for justice is not the way to go
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:05 AM
Dec 2014

Nothing I said or did could lead to this obscenity.

Most of the vile rhetoric actually emanates from those who are actively involved in denying justice to innocent people (including children) gunned down by trigger-happy cops.

Skittles

(153,122 posts)
16. no, the protesters are not responsible for what a psychotic gun humper did
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:08 AM
Dec 2014

I agree this kind of crap is irresponsible at best and intentionally racist at worst

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
28. Holding a whole group of people responsible for the actions of one person
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:08 AM
Dec 2014

is the very definition of prejudice. Are all cops responsible for Darren Wilson's actions?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
39. Geraldo and his ilk don't understand that we can
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:38 PM
Dec 2014

mourn the deaths of these officers, condemn their murders, and STILL continue to protest against police brutality




 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
34. We should've just shoved him into Al Capone's empty vault and slammed the door ...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:47 AM
Dec 2014

when we had the chance.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
71. It became utterly impossible to take Geraldo seriously after that incident.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:23 PM
Dec 2014

The only person who takes Geraldo seriously now is Geraldo.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
76. Ee Gads! You have to wonder whether he would like to take back that escapade.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:56 PM
Dec 2014

You notice that he hasn't been running around looking for Jimmy Hoffa's corpse.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
36. OMG i looked at that page and -
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:50 AM
Dec 2014

I had to get away. I could feel my blood pressure surge.
One of them was (of course why am I surprised) implying that Obama's to blame.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
40. Bernie Kerik, Bo Dietl, and Jeanine Pirro said President Obama and Mayor Bill de Blasio
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:45 PM
Dec 2014

created racial unrest that led to the deaths of the officers and are responsible for their murders.






napkinz

(17,199 posts)
44. one person who responded to Geraldo got it right!
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014
Steve Schindler: So let me see if I understand Geraldo: Those who protested the shootings of two unarmed blacks are now complicit in the shooting of two armed cops by a lunatic. Sounds to me like Rivera is using this terrible crime demagogically to silence opposition to police violence.





napkinz

(17,199 posts)
61. he's tweeting too
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:53 PM
Dec 2014
I strongly urge president to interrupt vacation to condemn killing of NYPD cops & state firmly with anger & resolve that this is intolerable

https://twitter.com/geraldorivera/status/546428289829466112




I strongly urge Geraldo to go back into his vault.



JHB

(37,157 posts)
37. 2 cops are dead, and we already know what Geraldo would do...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:53 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Exploit, exploit, exploit.

Response to napkinz (Original post)

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
53. So Geraldo thinks that saying "I Can't Breathe" and "Hands Up, Don't Shoot"
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:35 PM
Dec 2014

Are the same as saying "Off The Pigs!"?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
58. he concludes with the question, "what will those leaders and protestors (sic) do now?"
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:06 PM
Dec 2014

Hey, Geraldo, they'll continue protesting injustice!!!




napkinz

(17,199 posts)
60. and there he goes again ...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:44 PM
Dec 2014

"I strongly urge president to interrupt vacation to condemn killing of NYPD cops & state firmly with anger & resolve that this is intolerable."

https://twitter.com/geraldorivera/status/546428289829466112




Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
66. Now every cop...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:39 PM
Dec 2014

Now every cop who did nothing while bad cops beat, tortured and murdered people has to ask themselves...did I contribute to the death of these officers? Protesting is not wrong...shooting unarmed dark skinned kids as in Ohio is wrong.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
73. Blaming everybody but the guy who actually did it
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:07 PM
Dec 2014

This is the American way, apparently, and is beyond stupid.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
74. All I can do is show this video clip lol...it says all anyone needs to know about Foxnews stars.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:10 PM
Dec 2014

Rivera has no idea how to be a journalist, even to this day.
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