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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsResponse by Ferguson Action & #BlackLivesMatter to Murder of NYPD Officers
"We are shocked and saddened by the news of two NYPD officers killed today in Brooklyn. We mourned with the families of Eric Garner and Mike Brown who experienced unspeakable loss, and similarly our hearts go out to the families of these officers who are now experiencing that same grief. They deserve all of our prayers.
"Unfortunately, there have been attempts to draw misleading connections between this movement and todays tragic events. Millions have stood together in acts of non-violent civil disobedience, one of the cornerstones of our democracy. It is irresponsible to draw connections between this movement and the actions of a troubled man who took the lives of these officers and attempted to take the life of his ex-partner, before ultimately taking his own. Todays events are a tragedy in their own right. To conflate them with the brave activism of millions of people across the country is nothing short of cheap political punditry.
"Elected officials and law enforcement leaders must not allow this narrative to continue, as it only serves to heighten tensions at a time when the families of those killed are in mourning.
"We stand with the families in mourning, we stand united against senseless killings, and we stand for a justice system that works for all."
http://andystepanian.tumblr.com/post/105748544126/ferguson-action-blacklivesmatter-release
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I hope this makes it to the MSM.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Thanks for posting it, Ellen.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)on, right?
Could it be someone who went nuts over scorned love?
Anything, right?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:47 PM - Edit history (1)
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Will the M$M drive this point home?
Nope.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Their reaction to two of their own being cowardly gunned down was to declare "war".
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I've ever seen on DU.
It seems to me that you thrive on bad news.
Sad.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)If you can't deal with reality then maybe you should not be on the internet and maybe you should turn off the TV while you're at it.
840high
(17,196 posts)like stirring shit.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)"840high" If you'd flush your shit every once in a while there wouldn't be any to stir.
Roger that?
840high
(17,196 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I know that YOU are a very negative human.
That saddens me.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Why?
Because I posted a statement from the NYPD Union saying that they are now at war and equating legitimate protests against police brutality with the actions of a coward thug who gunned down three people before taking his own life?
These things happened but if you can't deal maybe you should unplug from the internet.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)The op posted a wonderful statement.
There were many positive responses.
Yours was a nasty attempt to cause trouble on a great op.
I don't put anyone on ignore. So I'll see you again. But I will not be a part of this silly sub thread anymore.
Logical
(22,457 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Do you know anything about the rank and file NYPD at all?
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)"Starting IMMEDIATELY: At least two units are to respond to EVERY call, no matter the condition or severity, no matter what type of job is pending, or what the opinion of the patrol supervisor happens to be.
IN ADDITION: Absolutely NO enforcement action in the form of arrests and or summonses is to be taken unless absolutely necessary and an individual MUST be placed under arrest.
These are precautions that were taken in the 1970's when police officers were ambushed and executed on a regular basis.
The mayors hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a wartime police department. We will act accordingly.
Taken from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5986768
George II
(67,782 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Or are you just going to keep repeating that question like a broken record?
George II
(67,782 posts)...about 35,000 men and women. I'm just trying to find out if that's based on FACT or an anti-police bias from you.
Don't bother now, I think we know the answer to the question.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)and I have not heard any of those 35,000 men and women say they don't stand by it.
Again, I don't get the point you're trying to make here.
George II
(67,782 posts)....them "declaring war".
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He enjoys bad news and trouble.
I would hate to wake up everyday and view the world that way.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The police and city are in mourning now for these men.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Their old villains are their new villains: Blacks and Hippies.
I know, back in the 60s and 70s I was a hippie in a black neighborhood.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)of the two cops. when the cops murder the people, that cops stand behind each other
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Sad
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that called it out as wrong, instead of active support of the murder. find me groups within the criminal system that stood with the victim and mourned their death.
where as, here is evidence with senseless murder of cops, people all over the nation mourn or call it out.
consistently
no broad brush but a reality, factual, that you are purposely ignoring and dismissing with your broad brush comment.
in... deed
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daleanime
(17,796 posts)who 'fucks' with us.
Yes, it is scary out there and your helping to make it so.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)On Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:26 PM you sent an alert on the following post:
There are plenty of cops that agree with the protestors
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5988972
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS
Scary for anyone who fucks with us, du has blood on our hands?
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:35 PM, and voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I was ok with the gist of the post - it's ok to have an alternate, minority opinion, even on DU - until I got to this part: "many here at DU have blood on there hands" << WAY over the top. And then this nonsense: "Scary for us and for anyone who fucks with us." Nah, what's scary is if Taurusny22 is really a cop.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Ever wonder why people are upset, I give you one example. Look in a mirror.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Take a little time to search your soul. I sense something that should not be there.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Yeah, fuck that shit. "DU has blood on its hands?"... This sort of rhetoric is not helpful. Not helpful at all.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Fuck the police-
RandiFan1290
Thank you.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)a little surprising that any one voted to leave it, but every body has their own standards.
George II
(67,782 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Thank you for bringing this to our attention, ellenrr.
K&R
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I love the positive comments here.
We can only move forward and hope to work to make things better.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts)ecstatic
(32,679 posts)Agreed, I've yet to see Giuliani & CO challenged on their framing of this tragedy. This idea that protesters are to blame is hurtful and very troubling. FNC, Giuliani, Lynch, Houck, etc. are inciting more anger than anyone else ever could.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Cha
(297,123 posts)Maineman
(854 posts)How many police officers are there in the U.S.? How many get shot in one year? What percentage is that? How does that implied probability compare to the number of citizens who get killed in auto accidents per year? How about compared to airline travelers dying in crashes? I do not know the answers, but I suspect the police need some help with accurate risk assessment. I do not mean to minimize the shooting of police officers which is just as horrible as any other shooting or killing, but I wonder if their perceived risk is in line with the actual risk.
Yes, I know. Certain communities are worse than others. Even so, my questions stand.
Wella
(1,827 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Some of the comments are skewed, unfortunately. The comments from the Ferguson groups make perfectly good sense, drawing a clear distinction between the protests begun after police murders and the psychopath who, for his own reasons, murdered two minority police officers. Obviously, to any thinking person (not found on Fux "news" the two problems have no relationship.