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kentuck

(111,069 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:38 AM Dec 2014

Lao Tzu quote:


“If there is to be peace in the world,

There must be peace in the nations.

If there is to be peace in the nations,

There must be peace in the cities.

If there is to be peace in the cities,

There must be peace between neighbors.

If there is to be peace between neighbors,

There must be peace in the home.

If there is to be peace in the home,

There must be peace in the heart.”
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Lao Tzu quote: (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2014 OP
And if there is to be peace in the heart, pangaia Dec 2014 #1
As with the Buddha... kentuck Dec 2014 #2
Or perhaps it is just a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of that world. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #19
Then we shouldn't be attached to the idea of peace. Hoppy Dec 2014 #6
Then peace is possible. zeemike Dec 2014 #9
Peace is possible because it already exists within every single person. Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #12
I absolutely agree with that. zeemike Dec 2014 #13
I love metaphors and find especially metaphors from nature to be most useful. Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #14
I like this metaphor very much BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #15
Beautiful! H2O Man Dec 2014 #3
"The Grass Roots - They don't have a manager, they have a gardener." - J. Durante bananas Dec 2014 #11
Haha! lovemydog Dec 2014 #21
Yes, starting from each of us as individuals. lovemydog Dec 2014 #20
Lao Tzu was born a wise man safeinOhio Dec 2014 #4
K&R Scuba Dec 2014 #5
Best post of 2014. loudsue Dec 2014 #7
+1! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #17
i have raised my boys, that the love begins in our heart and ripples out. seabeyond Dec 2014 #8
Or as Buckminster Fuller would have said - "think globally, act locally." calimary Dec 2014 #26
"let there be peace on earth" -harlem boys choir niyad Dec 2014 #10
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #16
"You who choose to lead, must follow Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #18
Miyamoto Musashi speaks.. yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #22
An old saying aspirant Dec 2014 #28
There is no profit in peace. Rex Dec 2014 #23
There is no lack of profit to peace Scootaloo Dec 2014 #25
He also once said lordsummerisle Dec 2014 #24
And if there is to be "peace in the heart"... kentuck Dec 2014 #27
When you have achieved peace of heart and mind aspirant Dec 2014 #29

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. And if there is to be peace in the heart,
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:02 AM
Dec 2014

There must be the letting go of attachment.
This is the most difficult.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
2. As with the Buddha...
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:12 AM
Dec 2014

It is the desire of the material world that is the biggest obstacle to peace and happiness.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
19. Or perhaps it is just a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of that world.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 06:02 PM
Dec 2014

A house of fire, as it were. It is only through a misunderstanding of the transitory nature of all things that allows even the illusion of attachment.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
9. Then peace is possible.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:05 PM
Dec 2014

But we as a people have went in the wrong direction...Atachment and fear rules us cradle to grave now.

But it can be overcome if we follow enlightened leaders that are not attached to the the system of perpetual increasing consumption and greed...and just as important is community...not the place but the desire for it.
And that desire for comunity, which I believe is universal in humans, has ben decimated by our industrial culture and now the norm is kids move away and old people live in Florida and we hardly know our own family much less the people around us...and over generations it salted the field.

But I don't know how you do that...just that is possible.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
12. Peace is possible because it already exists within every single person.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:08 PM
Dec 2014

It's a process of discovery and practice.

The peace within us is dependent on one thing only and that is
the breath coming and going. It's not dependent on the world,
its ups and downs around us. There is a peace which can't be
grabbed by the intellect, defined or put in a box. It is a living
experience, it is something that must be felt. No belief required.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
13. I absolutely agree with that.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 03:09 PM
Dec 2014

And it is the discovery and practice I was speaking to...
I might think of peace as the fruit of a garden and if so then the community is the soil in the garden...good soil and you get abundant fruit...and greed and fear have salted the field.
And little grows there but the bitter fruit of violence and hate.

Sorry to be so metaphorical on ya.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
15. I like this metaphor very much
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:02 PM
Dec 2014

I think it is something we can all do. Even though it seems that the opposition is too powerful, too overwhelming. Remember, the labor movement did just that. They won though many had to give their lives. I think that many people long in their secret hearts for peace and love and community. They go to church to find it and are instead fed hate and fear and tribalism. They are told by advertising and media to look for it where it cannot be found. But I think it's one of those things that you know it when you see it. I think all people, everywhere want peace. It may take many generations to change it, but if we don't fight, it will take that much longer.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
3. Beautiful!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:18 AM
Dec 2014

Recommended.

The hatred, fear, and anxiety that saturates our nation will not -- indeed, can not -- be eliminated from the "top" down. No "leader" can cure the toxins that poison our culture (and I do believe a small percentage of those in DC try to do that).

Rather, it must start from the grass roots. Only that can cure DC of the diseased "leaders" there, and heal our society.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
11. "The Grass Roots - They don't have a manager, they have a gardener." - J. Durante
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:17 PM
Dec 2014


on edit: posted wrong video!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
21. Haha!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 06:35 PM
Dec 2014

The Grass Roots. Cool song. Hope you enjoy a great weekend bananas. Thanks for making me laugh.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
20. Yes, starting from each of us as individuals.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 06:34 PM
Dec 2014

I so agree with you H20 Man.

Have a wonderful weekend.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
7. Best post of 2014.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:30 PM
Dec 2014

Dennis Kucinich was so right about establishing a Department of Peace in our government. The war machine would have none of it or him.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. i have raised my boys, that the love begins in our heart and ripples out.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:56 PM
Dec 2014

my son got me his book. i have got to jump in and read the book, to have conversation with son. thanks for the reminder.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
16. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:19 PM
Dec 2014

This Lao Tzu was some bright fella.

Unfortunately, TPTB do not want peace.

They simply do not. They not only want overseas war. They want war with the citizens of this nation. They are doing everything that they can to divide us. They® are expending millions of dollars to turn us against one another so we will ignore the true enemy.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. "You who choose to lead, must follow
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:59 PM
Dec 2014

..but if you fall, you fall alone.

If you should stand,
Then who's to guide you?

If I knew the way,
I would take you home"

- my favorite Lao Tzu quote ..... that was written by Robt. Hunter.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
25. There is no lack of profit to peace
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:14 PM
Dec 2014

Everyone prospers. Everyone.

But greed is not a particularly imaginative or far-sighted trait.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
24. He also once said
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 08:21 PM
Dec 2014

If you understand what I said then perhaps I haven't made myself clear.
Or maybe that was Alan Greenspan....

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