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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:40 PM Dec 2014

"Mitt Romney promised to bring unemployment down to 6%.... Newt Gingrich promised $2.50 gas"

Mitt Romney promised to bring unemployment down to 6 percent in his first term; it’s already down to 5.8 percent, half the struggling eurozone’s rate. Newt Gingrich promised $2.50 gas; it’s down to $2.38. Crime, abortion, teen pregnancy and oil imports are also way down, while renewable power is way up and the American auto industry is booming again. You don’t have to give credit to President Barack Obama for “America’s resurgence,” as he has started calling it, but there’s overwhelming evidence the resurgence is real. The Chicken Littles who predicted a double-dip recession, runaway interest rates, Zimbabwe-style inflation, a Greece-style debt crisis, skyrocketing energy prices, health insurance “death spirals” and other horrors have been reliably wrong.

Come to think of it, the 62 percent of Americans who described the economy as “poor” in a CNN poll a week before the Republican landslide in the midterm elections were also wrong. I guess that sounds elitist. Second-guessing the wisdom of the public may be the last bastion of political correctness; if ordinary people don’t feel good about the economy, then the recovery isn’t supposed to be real. But aren’t the 11 million Americans who have landed new jobs since 2010 and the 10 million Americans who have gotten health insurance since 2013 ordinary Americans? It’s true that wage growth has remained slow, but the overall economic trends don’t jibe with the public’s lousy mood. And the public definitely does get stuff wrong. A Bloomberg poll this month found that 73 percent of Americans think the deficit is getting bigger, while 21 percent think it’s getting smaller and 6 percent aren’t sure. In fact, the deficit has dwindled from about $1.2 trillion in 2009 to less than $500 billion in 2014. My favorite part is the mere 6 percent who admitted ignorance; 73 percent are definitely sure the shrinking deficit is actually growing.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/12/everything-is-awesome-113801.html#ixzz3N7JhKNia


Just imagine the crowing that would be going on if this had happened under a Republican president.
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"Mitt Romney promised to bring unemployment down to 6%.... Newt Gingrich promised $2.50 gas" (Original Post) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 OP
Dammit, the GOP was wrong again, bet you will not hear on FOX how successful Obama has Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #1
Who is really responsible for the drop in gas prices? nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #6
They all (unfairly) blamed Obama for high gas prices. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #10
Only if you have the same principles as "they" do. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #12
We need a 24/7 drumbeat against just the lies Fox tells. world wide wally Dec 2014 #2
"Just imagine the crowing" ThoughtCriminal Dec 2014 #3
So true! B Calm Dec 2014 #4
So GummyBearz Dec 2014 #5
Low unemployment is certainly a win. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #9
Low unemployment is good GummyBearz Dec 2014 #11
KICK Cha Dec 2014 #7
they would be the second coming to the faux 'news' fuckers...all the media would be hyping it spanone Dec 2014 #8
OOps.. question everything Dec 2014 #13

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Dammit, the GOP was wrong again, bet you will not hear on FOX how successful Obama has
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:51 PM
Dec 2014

been and how out of reality Romney and the others have been. It is time to start saying how successful Obama has been over and over, maybe it will reach them. Had a RW telling me yesterday how awful it is Obama did not return from vacation in time to attend the funerals of the two policemen in NY, I ask how many other funerals of policemen have you heard the president went to, how many funerals did she hear Bush went to of the deceased troops from Iraq and even did not show the bodies returning to US soil. I also reminded her of Bush flying over New Orleans and looking down from his plane and 3000 died there also.

world wide wally

(21,719 posts)
2. We need a 24/7 drumbeat against just the lies Fox tells.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:26 PM
Dec 2014

There there are the deceptions and omissions that need to be dealt with on top of That.
It is unfortunate for the entire world that Fox is able to exemplify Orwellian propaganda in such an efficient way and we can apparently do so little about it.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,011 posts)
3. "Just imagine the crowing"
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 03:22 PM
Dec 2014

"... if this had happened under a Republican president."

When you look at the historical data, you realize just how much imagination this requires. It's the imaginary world where fairies clean your house, rainbows are edible and everybody rides unicorns.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
5. So
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 04:16 PM
Dec 2014

I guess Obama accomplished exactly what Newt and Mitt were going to do... is that really a good thing?

I'd rather have higher $5 gas and $15min wage. Not to mention higher tax rates on the 1%, no TPP, no more gitmo. Being happy that Obama delivered to us what a couple republicans were trying to sell is not my definition of a "win".

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. Low unemployment is certainly a win.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:18 PM
Dec 2014

And I think low gas prices are too. Lower gas prices represent, percentagewise, a big tax cut for the poor and a tiny tax cut for the rich.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
11. Low unemployment is good
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:22 PM
Dec 2014

But its really a farce how they report the numbers. Tons of middle class jobs that can support a family were replaced by fast food and walmart cashier jobs... which sucks.

As for gas being *less expensive, that helps the poorest people which is good. But it encourages those with extra money to buy humvees and pollute more, while stifling funding on alternative (cleaner) fuel sources and modes of transportation... which I view as a big negative in the long haul.


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question everything

(47,271 posts)
13. OOps..
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:00 AM
Dec 2014

Of course, under President Romney, these improvement would be attributed to his business acumen. Otherwise it is just a "cycle."


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