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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEven countries with worse gun violence than the US don't have random mass shootings much
Brazil and South Africa have about twice our gun death rate and about 5 times our gun homicide rate. If they have "lone wolf goes to an office or school and randomly shoots a bunch of people" incidents then they don't make the media here at all. (EDIT: apparently Brazil had one at a school in 2011, but that was the first.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Canada has had a few (Lepine in '89 and Chahal in '96, and Chahal wasn't really "random" but a large domestic killing spree); England had Dunblane in '96 and Cumbria in 2010 (and IIRC Cumbria at least started as targeted murders and then degenerated into random murders). Australia had Port Arthur, Monash, and the recent Sydney horror.
But there seems to be something specifically American about the frequency with which an American will shoot a large number of people he (generally always "he" doesn't know.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)No I'm not saying every shooter is a Libertarian, let alone that every Libertarian is a potential shooter. That's nuts.
But US culture is far more libertarian than any other with which I am familiar. The drive to be a "rugged individual", disconnected from larger society. It's not just the "fuck you I've got mine" zero tax greed. That's a symptom, but can also come from other mindsets. But add that to the idea of being a "self-made man" (as if you don't use public roads, public services, public regulatory authority no matter how self-employed you may be, how many acres you own or how much food you grow yourself. Who educated your customers? Who oversees the currency they give you?), the idea of not being one of "them" (there's a reason the vast majority of mass shooters are male and white), the idea of bring able to "take care of yourself" (against TEOTWAWKI fantasies no less. Mad Max is fiction...) and it becomes the rejection of human civilized history with its continued and constant push towards group and collective progress.
When you talk yourself into thinking you are one of the few real men carrying all the spongers, it's a pretty short step to not caring if they live or die, and another tiptoe into wanting the latter.
Sure other countries have terrible classism, many have virulent tribalism that dehumanizes the other. But no 20th-generation British nobleman thinks he did it all by himself (quite the opposite, his snobbery comes from those generations) and no Hutu considers himself a self-made master of men (again, his drive is to help his tribe and be against Tutsis for that reason).
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Look at how young people in Asian cultures suffer under collective mindsets. With no individualism, their societies fell far behind the west technologically, artistically and culturally. Risk-taking behaviors are stigmatized, which results in societal stagnation.
Our individualism has led to the creation of entire industries that people thought absurd at the time, but which turned out to be revolutionary.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Of the two though I think authoritarianism has a far worse track record of horror and death.