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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:22 PM Oct 2015

Do you trust the police to fairly enforce all the new gun laws that you support?

I for one do not. More gun laws means more powers for police. Right now that is not what we need to be doing. The police would enforce new gun laws by disproportionately harassing poor people, black people, Hispanic people and Muslim people. "Weapons charges" would become the basis for more arbitrary searches and bashing down people's doors in no-knock raids. If you think the cops will vigorously enforce new gun restrictions upon white male rednecks, you are living in a fantasy world.

I favor enforcing existing laws on the books, closing the gun show loophole and the background check bill that stalled in the Senate last year.

But that's about it.

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Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
1. I do. But the issue would be costs.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:27 PM
Oct 2015

Everyone complains about "big government" and tries to cut programs and taxes etc. And they demand action for roads, law enforcement, etc.

We do need to address funding and government budgets.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
16. I am surprised they didn't kill him...
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:42 PM
Oct 2015

I was also shocked at how gently the cop put his arms behind his back. Had the camera not been rolling...

 

I dunno

(31 posts)
3. I dunno, maybe what we need to do is look at other societies, and find the ones
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:36 PM
Oct 2015

that have the least gun deaths and then do what they do.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
5. The problem with that suggestion is that American history and culture
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:41 PM
Oct 2015

is different from other nations, including other western democracies. It's the reason why we have the Second Amendment, and no one else does.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
6. Which has been purposely misinterpreted by right wing judges...
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:47 PM
Oct 2015

"[The Second Amendment] has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word 'fraud,' on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."
--- Former Chief Justice Warren Burger, The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour, December 16, 1991

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
11. It is not so much the history, as our age as a nation. Sure most of the countries
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 07:51 PM
Oct 2015

do not have the history of guns, but they do with weapons. Sure most, if not all, of the European countries have solved the problems of violence, but look how old they are.

I had a friend in England that attended church that was built in 600-700AD. 1000 + years later we become a nation. I hope the world can last long enough for this nation to grow out of the terrible twos.

enough

(13,237 posts)
12. I don't find it amusing at all. I find it just as detestable as all the other "reasons" why
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 07:54 PM
Oct 2015

we as a society have decided there's nothing we can do about this problem, or perhaps that this is exactly the way we want it.

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