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RandySF

(58,440 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:46 PM Oct 2015

This is my governor.

To the Members of the California State Assembly.

ABx2 15 is not an ordinary bill because it deals with life and death. The crux of the matter is whether the State of California should continue to make it a crime for a dying person to end his life, no matter how great his pain or suffering.

I have carefully read the thoughtful opposition materials presented by a number of doctors, religious leaders and those who champion disability rights. I have considered the theological and religious perspectives that any deliberate shortening of one’s life is sinful.

I have also read the letters of those who support the bill, including heartfelt pleas from Brittany Maynard’s family and Archbishop Desmond Tutu. In addition, I have discussed this matter with a Catholic Bishop, two of my own doctors and former classmates and friends who take varied, contradictory and nuanced positions.

In the end, I was left to reflect on what I would want in the face of my own death.

I do not know what I would do if I were dying in prolonged and excruciating pain. I am certain, however, that it would be a comfort to be able to consider the options afforded by this bill. And I wouldn’t deny that right to others.

Sincerely,
Edmund G. Brown, Jr.


http://qz.com/517618/read-california-governor-jerry-browns-moving-letter-in-support-of-assisted-dying/

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This is my governor. (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2015 OP
What he said. n/t WheelWalker Oct 2015 #1
Jerry is the best Governor in the country right now, California is doing great under him. bemildred Oct 2015 #2
Our guy Mark Dayton in Minnesota is pretty good too. hifiguy Oct 2015 #3
Good for you. Keep Dayton too. We need a lot more serious leaders, not just grifters, nt bemildred Oct 2015 #4
+1 million geardaddy Oct 2015 #11
+1 SunSeeker Oct 2015 #9
He's my Governor too lunatica Oct 2015 #5
Mine too!! ailsagirl Oct 2015 #20
Thank you Governor Brown! MindPilot Oct 2015 #6
By no means all assisted suicide opponents are religious. KamaAina Oct 2015 #12
You think I'm comparing people to dogs and cats? MindPilot Oct 2015 #13
Um, yeah, kind of. KamaAina Oct 2015 #18
It's my understanding that they looked to the State of Oregon as a model RandySF Oct 2015 #17
Oregon's Medicaid program has denied treatment to at least two cancer patients KamaAina Oct 2015 #19
And yet another reason to yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #7
Patience Beowulf42 Oct 2015 #8
From your lips to Jah's ears. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #10
I'll put it in his ear Saturday night at dinner. n/t calikid Oct 2015 #15
Jerry Brown is a neoliberal capitalist tool... AOR Oct 2015 #14
This brought tears to my eyes. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #16

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. Jerry is the best Governor in the country right now, California is doing great under him.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 05:06 PM
Oct 2015

Just like his Dad.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. Our guy Mark Dayton in Minnesota is pretty good too.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 05:23 PM
Oct 2015

But I have been a Jerry Brown fan since the 1970s. Even supported him in the '76 Dem primaries.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
6. Thank you Governor Brown!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 05:57 PM
Oct 2015

Humans in California can now pass with the same level of dignity we grant our dogs and cats.

And a big fuck you to the religious assholes who believe that prolonged suffering is a VIP ticket to heaven.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
12. By no means all assisted suicide opponents are religious.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:01 PM
Oct 2015

Disability rights organizations oppose it, too.

http://dredf.org/public-policy/assisted-suicide/

And comparing people's lives to those of dogs and cats is demeaning.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
13. You think I'm comparing people to dogs and cats?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:57 PM
Oct 2015

After you have to change your parents diapers, your outlook will change.

When my dad got old and sick he--and the entire family--suffered horribly. When my dog got old and sick, she died comfortably and peacefully, at home, surrounded by the people she loved. My dad did not have that option.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
18. Um, yeah, kind of.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:00 AM
Oct 2015
Humans in California can now pass with the same level of dignity we grant our dogs and cats.


And I'll make sure that Mom has Depends, dammit!

RandySF

(58,440 posts)
17. It's my understanding that they looked to the State of Oregon as a model
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:02 PM
Oct 2015

of safeguarding against abuse. A UCSF physician told KQED this morning that they went through Oregon with a fine-toothed comb and could not find an example of someone being pushed into it.

The new law requires two doctors to determine that a patient has six months or less to live before the lethal drugs can be prescribed. Patients also must be physically able to swallow the medication themselves and must have the mental capacity to make medical decisions.

One of the meetings must be private, with only the patient and the physician present. That requirement is aimed at ensuring the patient is acting independently, Monning said. Patients must also reaffirm in writing that they intend to take the medication within 48 hours.



http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/10/05/446107800/california-governor-signs-landmark-right-to-die-law


If the patient speaks another language, an certified interpreter must be provided who signs a document as well.
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
19. Oregon's Medicaid program has denied treatment to at least two cancer patients
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:02 AM
Oct 2015

but approved their lethal doses.

 

AOR

(692 posts)
14. Jerry Brown is a neoliberal capitalist tool...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:01 PM
Oct 2015

whose austerity policies haven't done shit for the nearly ten million people in California who live in poverty. Your governor sucks and it's a shame Brown doesn't have as much "compassion" and "soul searching" for the living as he does for the dying. Fuck Jerry Brown and austerity.

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