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http://www.thegailygrind.com/2015/05/19/prostitution-ring-leader-claims-former-u-s-senator-spent-20k-a-month-on-male-escorts/He denied he was trying to solicit sex in a public. In front of cameras, he said, Let me be clear. I am not gay. I never have been gay, and later reiterated, I am not gay. I love my wife. I love my family.
According to a new tell-all book, the former Senator allegedly preferred the company of very masculine male escorts and would spend nearly $20,000 a month on them.
The book, titled Confessions of a D.C. Madam, is penned by the former leader of a DC prostitution ring, Henry Vinson, who served five years in prison after pleading guilty to federal racketeering charges.
Tap, tap, tap...
villager
(26,001 posts)n/t
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I just like sex with men.
I feel sorry for his wife, but who knows, maybe she knew.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)to say the least. Mr. Craig is a high ranking member of the Priesthood in the Mormon Church.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)And Bush Sr is gay.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Was that from tax payer dollars,
out of our wallets?
yardwork
(61,408 posts)Volaris
(10,260 posts)Yeah, we paid for that...
whopis01
(3,467 posts)If someone earns money at their job, it is their money. The employer paid for the work they received from the person - the employer did not pay for what the person spent it on.
There are employers out there who feel they have a right to control what employees spend their money on because "they (the employer) paid for it" in their minds. That type of thinking should not be encouraged in any way.
If he used tax money from any source other than his salary - then I would agree with you completely. But if it is his salary, then we paid for his work and nothing else with that money.
graegoyle
(532 posts)And using his position to create policy. Corruption is in there somewhere. Where is he getting all of that money?
whopis01
(3,467 posts)Last time you went to the grocery store - did you buy those groceries with your employer's money? Do you pay for your housing with your employer's money?
No. You perform work for your employer in exchange for money. Once that transaction is complete it is your money and no longer your employer's.
He was performing illegal activity. And he may have been using tax payer money for it. But what was stated above was that even if it was his salary that he used, that is tax payer money. Which is just not true.
graegoyle
(532 posts)...welfare recipients and how some of these Republicans want them to be drug-tested because they are receiving tax-payer money. His salary was provided (arguably) by taxes upon people. It was a bit flippant.
However, that is a lot of money (uncorroborated) being spent: Where did that more than $40,000 per year come from? Was he worried about blackmail? The possible corruption and compromised state of his position should still be investigated, keeping in mind any statutes of limitations, of course.
And I am only concerned about his illegal activity and how he might have tried to prevent his exposure.
whopis01
(3,467 posts)If this accusation is true the sources of money need to be investigated. The whole thing should be investigated the same way as if it were you or I involved.
I get your (flippant) point. That concept drives me crazy (the idea that welfare recipients should have to justify their spending to people) - I am sure we agree upon that as well. So I kind of strike back at anything that seems to justify that kind of thinking.
I am pretty sure you and I are on the same page here though.
Volaris
(10,260 posts)Seems to beg the question tho (to me at least)
'What useful work did we (the employer) get for the salary he was paid?
I agree with you however, about we don't get to tell him what to spend earned money on..that would be rather dickish of us, wouldn't it?
whopis01
(3,467 posts)My guess is that the answer is very little.
bubblesort
(2 posts)US Senators make around $150k a year. To spend $20k a month would cost $240k a year. If even half of that came from his salary as a senator, then he would have problems making mortgage and car payments.
If this madam is telling the truth then he must have had another source of income. Perhaps investments, or doing side work, or maybe owning a company? Given that he was a senator, though, it's probably something uglier. Those people are always shady as hell.
whopis01
(3,467 posts)I am in no way exusing his behavior or saying that he shouldn't be investigated regarding this.
There are multiple issues at hand - illegal activity in any case. Quite possibly misuse of funds as well. He should be subjected to the same investigstion and consequences that any of us would be in similar circumstances.
ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)Cash bribes for political favors that he could use without attracting attention from his wife or the IRS sounds like a very probable source.
tblue37
(64,979 posts)lot of money to support their regular expenses.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)He had a profitable, powerful career aping those in in his social circle of homophobic lawmakers.
Think of the gay teens who committed suicide, or who attempted it, having been unable to deal with the hatred in their daily lives.
Nope, not at all sad about it. Glad he was caught with his pants down.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)OK Ben, now that we know how a "wide stance" (try getting your feet to reach from one side of a stall to the other without taking off your pants while sitting on any public toilet) is normal, tell us about what a generous tipper dear old Larry was when ministering to these wayward young men. 3-2-1 cue Fox News?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Indeed.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)bathroom at MSP. Too many people gawking. Weird.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Then this.
WheelWalker
(8,943 posts)underpants
(182,271 posts)niyad
(112,432 posts)Orrex
(63,084 posts)Let him who doesn't spend a quarter-million annually on male prostitutes cast the first stone.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)sex budget.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I really couldn't care less how much of his money, he (or anyone else) spends on anything ... it's his to do whatever he wishes. I DO have a probably with his condemning others for engaging in the same act; doubly so, he condemns others for doing what he is doing, but it is not an act of commerce.
olddots
(10,237 posts)That way most repukians have never had sex .