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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts) Sat Oct 17, 2015, 05:00 AM Oct 2015

You should pay attention to X Speaker Dennis Hastert trial

Because it reveals how deep and how sick the corruption is.

In short, this scandal is too deep, too dark, and covers too many people from both sides of the political aisle for it to ever proceed in public. If it were to be exposed it would uncover a tale of surveillance, espionage, scandal, drug money, child prostitution and blackmail that could blow up all over Washington and make Watergate look like a minor footnote in the history of political scandal.

However the plea deal he just got will not bring it to light

The plea negotiations, first revealed in a hearing late last month, mean many of the details surrounding Hastert's prosecution might never be publicly aired, including the identity of Individual A, the mysterious figure who prosecutors say took cash from Hastert to keep quiet about a dark history with him.

The plea will allow Mr. Hastert, who presided over the House from 1999 to 2007, to avoid a potentially long and embarrassing trial and to keep secret information that he has hidden for years,

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/us/dennis-hastert-reaches-plea-deal-in-bank-withdrawals-case.html

This story is not just about Hastert or republicans but something much deeper and disturbing if you dig deeper than just the veneer the mainstream news gives you

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You should pay attention to X Speaker Dennis Hastert trial (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Oct 2015 OP

I read that entire article and it doesn't reference almost anything you said Renew Deal Oct 2015 #1

Do your own research I just gave you the veneer from the NYT n/t Ichingcarpenter Oct 2015 #2

You gave us rumors Renew Deal Oct 2015 #4

are you really that naive? reddread Oct 2015 #3

Is it too much to ask for evidence? Renew Deal Oct 2015 #5

as if you never heard of Sibel Edmonds reddread Oct 2015 #6

Well all the evidence will be hidden away as per the plea deal. Rex Oct 2015 #8

We are harmed in so many different ways by these confideniality style agreements. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #7

Thankfully he cannot just walk away, I hope he likes prison. Rex Oct 2015 #9

There is nothing that links this to the CT allegations that you refer to karynnj Oct 2015 #10

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)

1. I read that entire article and it doesn't reference almost anything you said

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:15 AM

Oct 2015

"In short, this scandal is too deep, too dark, and covers too many people from both sides of the political aisle for it to ever proceed in public."

What are you getting at here? What specifically do you know Democrats did? What evidence of unreported "drug money, child prostitution and blackmail" do you have?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)

2. Do your own research I just gave you the veneer from the NYT n/t

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:18 AM

Oct 2015

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)

4. You gave us rumors

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:21 AM

Oct 2015

If you know something you should post it. What bothers me is that this makes your much more important claims about the banking system look questionable. "Drug money, child prostitution and blackmail" is a bombshell claim.

reddread

(6,896 posts)

3. are you really that naive?

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:20 AM

Oct 2015

I have my doubts.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)

5. Is it too much to ask for evidence?

Reply to reddread (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:22 AM

Oct 2015

reddread

(6,896 posts)

6. as if you never heard of Sibel Edmonds

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:26 AM

Oct 2015

Rex

(65,616 posts)

8. Well all the evidence will be hidden away as per the plea deal.

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:12 PM

Oct 2015

So how do you propose we get it? All I know is the perp won't just skate...he will have to do some time in prison. Sadly it will only be a few years.

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)

7. We are harmed in so many different ways by these confideniality style agreements.

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:31 AM

Oct 2015

They protect unethical lawyers, elected officials accused of malfeasance, community leaders who help perpetuate frauds and cover-ups.

And now take a step back and look at what you're protecting: The status quo.

Rex

(65,616 posts)

9. Thankfully he cannot just walk away, I hope he likes prison.

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:15 PM

Oct 2015

You know it must really be BAD if they cannot get him off on some probation deal...the fact he will have to serve time means it must be really, really bad.

Delay didn't see a day in jail. Foley didn't either nor will Issa.

Hastert is going to prison...must be bad.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)

10. There is nothing that links this to the CT allegations that you refer to

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:20 PM

Oct 2015

Had this gone to trial, what it would have brought out are accusations that Hastert, before elected to the House misused his position as teacher and coach to have sexual relations with students. The only connection to Congress might be questions of whether that continued with pages or whether his past kept him from stopping Foley before that blew up before the 2006 elections.

I have seen - I've been on DU too long not to have - what you are referring to and see no direct connection.

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