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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMoody’s Jumps on Recession Bandwagon
Moodys Jumps on Recession Bandwagon
by Wolf Richter October 16, 2015
These crazy days of ours, if you want to have confirmation the economy is sliding into trouble, look at stocks: for stock-market jockeys, crummy economic data indicates that the Fed wont raise interest rates. And stocks jump.
Maybe not jump, exactly. But the S&P 500 rose 0.9% for the week, its third weekly gain in a row, following another decline in industrial production, weak retail sales propped up by autos and restaurants, falling wholesales and business sales, rising inventories, a lackluster employment report . The word recession is floating around, and when it hits, stocks might make a big new high. Thats the twisted hope.
And now Moodys has jumped on the recession-warning bandwagon too, with a logic of its own.
[font size="3"][font color="blue"]First, theres credit: the spigot is getting turned off.[/font][/font]
For the last three weeks, only one junk-rated company was able to issue bonds in the US. And just in the US: This is shaping up to be the worst October for the worldwide issuance of high-yield bonds since October 2011, wrote John Lonski, Chief Economist at Moodys Capital Markets Research. He warns of reduced access to financial capital.
But unlike October 2011, when the euro debt crisis caused wild gyrations in the bond markets, which then recovered quickly, this time around, there might not be an easy recovery: average yields and spreads are still low in comparison to 2011, but the average expected default frequency (EDF) for US/Canadian junk-bond issuers, which was 3.85% in October 2011, is now a much riskier 5.20%. ...............(more)
http://wolfstreet.com/2015/10/16/moodys-recession-warning-jarring-drop-in-payrolls/
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Moody’s Jumps on Recession Bandwagon (Original Post)
marmar
Oct 2015
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If you read the financial websites you will find diametrically opposed predictions...
Human101948
Oct 2015
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Human101948
(3,457 posts)1. If you read the financial websites you will find diametrically opposed predictions...
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)4. The argument is monetary stimulus vs. Interest rate level. What a playpen!!
It 's like engine-steering a sinking tanker! Interest levels are at the bottom, and there is NO other way proposed, save FDR-style government programs. But no one wants that in the political climate of elites, and the financial bloaters who run the show would rather take a chance on in-bred junkbonds than make real-live loans; hell, they'd just soon sit on the fly-ridden wad that's crowning even as we speak.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)2. Yep. This ship is going down. It's actually another credit bubble, just like Bush's 2001-08 economy.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)3. "...decrepit, malodorous financial system... will give up the ghost.."
The financial system ain't dead, it just smells that way.
The only importance I put on the stock market is to see how much higher it goes after it reaches the pre(first) recession level. My $2 HH beer prediction was it would go from around 10k back to 16k whereupon that jelly-belly full of bail out money would suffer a surface burst, and back down we go. We might even have a little of dat stagflation reaking up the joint.
And the "frontrunners" of both parties (not Sanders) are protecting that roaring, porcelain-cracking junker behind the curtain.