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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 01:50 PM Oct 2015

Florida school slammed for ‘lifeboat quiz’ asking kids if they would save ‘a black guy’ or ‘

a Hispanic woman’



Florida elementary school is taking heat for a “Lifeboat quiz” given to kids asking them who should live or die by forcing them to choose between “a black guy” or a “Hispanic woman,” among others, reports Global News.

According to Valerie Kennel, her 11-year-old daughter Leah was given the quiz and asked who should live in hypothetical sea disaster where a lifeboat only has nine seats but there is a diverse cast of 15 people wanting to board.
Among the choices students found “a black guy,” “a white guy,” a Hispanic woman” and “a rabbi.”

Along with “a police officer,” and “a pregnant woman,” sixth-graders must also decide if they want to save President Obama or businessman Donald Trump.

“It’s racist in every form,” Kennel explained. “It has nothing to do with history. It has nothing to do with it, and what is it teaching them? Who do you pick? Why is one person better than the other? Why does someone get left out?”

According to the mom and her daughter, the test given at Giunta Middle School disturbed some of the students who refused to complete it.

“I got kind of upset about it and everyone else in the classroom was like ‘this is racist, this is racist,'” Leah recalled, noting that one student was reprimanded for protesting the test.

According to a statement from the Hillsborough County School District, the quiz was designed to promote team-building and cooperation, and is not intended to be racist.

“This school has a culturally diverse population,” the statement reads. “The test brought up good debates on how to work together, building relationships.”

Watch the video below from WFLA:

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/florida-school-slammed-for-lifeboat-quiz-asking-kids-if-they-would-save-a-black-guy-or-a-hispanic-woman/
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HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. Let's all work together!
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 01:53 PM
Oct 2015

Once we have eliminated the people we don't like. Seeing them drown will be inspirational. This smells of one of those "team building consultant" things, or maybe a motivational speaker.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
6. This seems like a twisted form of a situational ethics exam.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:10 PM
Oct 2015

They field these kind of questions in leadership classes: "Would you look the other way if a student cheats on an exam?" You can get answers like: "Yes, if he was poor and I knew he works hard, but the question was really beyond his field of experiences." That's probably the kindest example I've seen.

But, you can find the same kind of thinking in public administration when the community leadership board wants to jump process, all they have to do is search for the higher purpose to justify their actions.

This Florida test is just the lowest form of the same flawed reasoning. What it tests for is a students prejudices. It says more about the person who put the test together, because he assumes that assigning value to people is normal.

And you know what? They use this same kind of reasoning when they do court settlements where there is massive loss of life. People who died are judged based on what they do for a living. For example, the survivors of a janitor who died in 9/11 would have received far less than an executive who died in the same event.

Whether that is fair or not is up to everyone's own interpretation, though that's how they do it, no matter how you feel about it.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. Good answer. I kind of remember doing something like that
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:03 PM
Oct 2015

back in college but I no longer remember what the purpose was.

I wonder if there is not some kind of triage like that when it comes to disasters like Katrina?

hay rick

(7,588 posts)
3. Is this an Onion reprint?
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:02 PM
Oct 2015

It's difficult to imagine anyone could be dense enough to create, approve, and give this test to school children- even in Florida.

hay rick

(7,588 posts)
11. They left behind the rabbi, the minister, and the ex-con.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:29 PM
Oct 2015

Mr. Bobo must be pretty special. Mr. Hagerman, not so much. In the real world, Donald Trump kicks everybody else out of the boat and uses the extra seats for what's left of the ship's champagne and maybe a woman or Mexican (that's why they love him).

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
8. Hypotheticals are awesome. Since they are asking a hypothetical...
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:12 PM
Oct 2015

I'd inject my own scenario.

Everyone in the multiple choice would be saved (even Donald)... The only fucker we'd watch slowly sink as we pissed on their forehead, even though my hypothetical life raft has room for thousands, is the asshole-shitface-fuckhead that came up with this hypothetical in the first place.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. I didn't watch the video but it sounds like it made people think, which is good. The correct answer
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:27 PM
Oct 2015

There are too many variables, why would I chose someone solely on skin color, gender, creed, job? Let's discuss bigotry now, OK?

Igel

(35,274 posts)
12. Don't know the context.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:29 PM
Oct 2015

As if context mattered when we're interpreting things.

What use would have been made of this? Was it tongue in cheek or part of some larger education strategy or purpose? Was it part of a campus- or distict- or state-wide initiative, or just the teacher's or the teacher's team's own doing?


Back in the late '70s and early '80s there was a wave of conservative outrage over questions and assignments that strike me as being very similar to this given in elementary school.

Then the buzz word was "values clarification". Make the kids recognize their values, what they were and how they worked, and how they might positively or negatively influence themselves or others.

I don't know if there was a parallel wave of liberal outrage over this technique or not, or what the official edu-speak phrase was for it, but the conservatives billed this as a liberal idea. I only know my own social setting back then.

Perhaps this could now be classed under "morals education" or "character education," more recent buzzwords for very similar, as far as I can tell, types of things. It's rather like having kids do an implicit bias test of some sort, now isn't it? Let them know that their choices say something about their thinking that they're unaware off.

I mean, even another DUer saw a particular kind of moral bias in that answers given in the OP's example.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
14. If they were using it to test people's implicit biases, as a starting point for discussing those
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 03:21 PM
Oct 2015

biases, I could see it. But from their own statement, that doesn't appear to be quite the point.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
15. Used to a use a 'similar' critical thinking exercise with my college students...
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 03:25 PM
Oct 2015

Designed for people to examine ideas, prejudices, and problem solving. It was much more complex than what is being shown. Also, this may not be age appropriate for the target students.

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