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4-Year-Old Girl Dies After Being Shot in the Head in Road-Rage Incident in New MexicoBY TARA FOWLER @waterfowlerta 10/21/2015 AT 09:15 AM EDT
A 4-year-old girl was shot in the head and killed in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on Tuesday afternoon in an apparent road-rage incident, PEOPLE confirms.
Gunfire erupted on Interstate 40 at around 3 p.m. Tuesday. The girl, who was riding in a car with her mom and dad, was fatally wounded after another vehicle pulled up alongside the family's car and someone opened fire. She was hit in the head.
http://www.people.com/article/4-year-old-girl-shot-head-road-rage-incident-new-mexico?google_editors_picks=true
trumad
(41,692 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)I understand if you need to tiptoe around it.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Heidi
(58,237 posts)Kick!
flobee1
(870 posts)Trumps a childs right to live yet again
I guess this is how the anti "gun restriction of any kind" crowd likes it. I hope they sleep well at night knowing another kid has died. Nothing to see here, move along....
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)We must ban them all. If she wasn't in a car, this would have never happened.
trumad
(41,692 posts)prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)We need car control.
prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)bullet. If her parents had left five minutes later, if she'd had the flu that day, if her car seat were in a different spot, if she had been bending down at the time, etc., etc., etc., etc.
A high speed projectile flying through the air is sometimes caught by unlucky toddlers who are playing in their backyard, sitting in the car, eating soup, etc., and sometimes not. To pretend that the unrelated activity the toddler was doing at the time of catching the high speed projectile with her head is the cause of the projectile meeting with her head is completely and totally ridiculous.
When a populated land mass often has high speed projectiles flying through the air at the same height as organisms who are harmed by such projectiles, those orgsnisms will be harmed when hit with such projectiles, regardless of what activity they are doing at the time. The solution is obviously to decrease the number of high speed projectiles flying through the organisms' environment. Suggesting that a reasonable solution is stopping all organisms from riding in cars, washing their laundry, taking walks, gardening, and all other activities that they could be doing at such time when their head may meet with a harmful projectile is ludicrous. The high speed projectiles are clearly the problem. So clearly that I suspect that you're being dishonest when you suggest otherwise.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Guns are, that's their only purpose.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)So we must ban them.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)Cars aren't made to kill people.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)While there are arms Not designed to kill, and arms not designed to kill people, if what you said was nevertheless true, what is the relevancy?
prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)them to gain access to other life sustaining resources much more easily. Because a person uses this valuable resource in a malicious way once every few years has no relevance whatsoever to the gun debate. None.
Scarves sometimes kill people, water sometimes kills people, knives sometimes kill people, but none of these things primary use is to kill people. The primary use of guns is to kill.
There exists decent arguments for gun ownership. Comparing guns to cars is not one of the decent arguments. It's immature, disingenuous and ridiculous.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"We must ban them all..."
Or merely regulate them, test all drivers before they get on the road alone, require insurance and yearly licensing, allow for a database of all vehicles on the road, etc.
Oh, wait...
B Calm
(28,762 posts)was all the stupid road rage. I had a guy wave a gun to me because it was taking me too long in my governed truck to pass a slower vehicle.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Big man with a gun.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I'm glad they caught the pig but I feel so sorry for the grieving parents of the little girl.
She never had a chance at life in gun crazed America.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)It says red pickup was cutting off and weaving to keep the red car from passing. Was this guy both the instigator and the shooter?
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... the little girl was in the back seat of the truck.
They caught the guy:
http://www.waaytv.com/news/police-man-confesses-to-road-rage-shooting-that-killed-/article_7e7e71a4-78a1-11e5-8d25-1bf66137f68c.html
Clearly seems BOTH drivers were fully into the road rage. Shit. Such a waste.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Doesn't excuse pulling out his gun and firing, but geez, what's the deal with weaving and cutting off. Even if that's not looking for someone to get shot, it's still stupid and dangerous. And, with a little girl in the car.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... I'm by no means immune to a little road rage myself, but I generally limit it to extending an Hawaiian peace symbol, or maybe just an "you idiot" glare. But cut-off maneuvers with your family in the car? It's just stupid.
You're right. It in no way excuses this ass whipping out his gun and taking shots at a car, but the incivility in our society is stunning. And this incident will serve only to arm more drivers with an "I better shoot first" attitude. It's depressing.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)You seem more bothered by the stupid driving.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... What you said is not at all what he/she said. At best you're using deeply flawed logic.
No one is equating what the shooter did with what the father did. Pulling out a gun and shooting into an occupied vehicle is a much more barbaric act than cutting someone off in traffic. But the tragedy doesn't make engaging in a high speed road duel any less reckless - especially with your family in the car.
I think we were commenting on how sad it is that some in our society seem to thrive on confrontation and a "don't fuck with me or I'll show you" attitude. BOTH of these drivers seem to have had such an attitude. The asshole in the car just also happened to have a gun.
I feel for the father. Shooting was in no way justified, but the father will have to live with the guilt anyway. I can't imagine how that might feel.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)At least i know somebody got the point. The other poster missed it by a light year.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)That sound you hear is the point whooshing over your head.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)All responsible gun owners are responsible with their guns, all the way up to the point where they are not.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)responsible gun owners NEVER commit gun crimes because once they do, they're not responsible gun owners anymore. That's a wonderfully absurd talking point from the brain dead gun nuts.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)So sorry for the sweet little girl.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)So there. The gun is vindicated again!
Rex
(65,616 posts)Seems like a fatal flaw in the 'everyone needs a gun' argument.