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Hamlette

(15,408 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:47 AM Oct 2015

Great new study busting The Myth of Welfare’s Corrupting Influence on the Poor

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/21/business/the-myth-of-welfares-corrupting-influence-on-the-poor.html

Few ideas are so deeply ingrained in the American popular imagination as the belief that government aid for poor people will just encourage bad behavior.

The proposition is particularly cherished on the conservative end of the spectrum, articulated with verve by Charles Murray of the American Enterprise Institute, who blamed welfare for everything from higher youth unemployment to increases in “illegitimacy.” His views are shared, to a greater or lesser degree, by Republican politicians like the unsuccessful presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.

But even Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the father of the New Deal, called welfare “a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit.” And it was President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, who put an end to “welfare as we know it.”
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Today, almost 20 years after Mr. Clinton signed a law that stopped the federal entitlement to cash assistance for low-income families with children, the argument has solidified into a core tenet influencing social policy not only in the United States but also around the world.

And yet, to a significant degree, it is wrong. Actual experience, from the richest country in the world to some of the poorest places on the planet, suggests that cash assistance can be of enormous help for the poor. And freeing them from what President Ronald Reagan memorably termed the “spider’s web of dependency” — also known as forcing the poor to swim or sink — is not the cure-all for social ills its supporters claim.

It started before but Reagan made it a mantra. Read the article, none of it is true. I hate the GOP. They lie.
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Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
1. I guess lying us into a war got people to question everything from the Right....
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 05:03 AM
Oct 2015

And, surprise! Surprise!

Turns out they are WRONG about everything.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
3. They claimed the same thing during the potato famine. As many as one million starved to death
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:28 AM
Oct 2015

At least they didn't grow accustomed to government handouts. They starved instead.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
5. If Republicans are so sure that providing assistance takes away poor peoples' incentives to work,
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:34 AM
Oct 2015

and be productive, then why wouldn't it have the same effect on the wealthy? Yet, their solution to everything is to cut taxes for the rich and subsidize wealthy corporations.

Hamlette

(15,408 posts)
8. bring back the "death tax"!
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 09:49 AM
Oct 2015

I read an article that said if Trump had left his inheritance invested (1,600 rental units in NYC) as it was when his dad died, he'd have more money today than he has, or even that he claims he has. He claims to be worth $10B but would be work $11-12B had he done nothing.

So, the great money maker has actually LOST part of his inheritance.

I wouldn't care if he'd used that money for good instead of starting companies that go bankrupt leaving countless creditors holding the tab. And franking, the world does not need buildings with his name on them all over the world. (My husband goes to NYC on business and directs cab drivers on alternate routes so he won't have to pass any such building. And while my husband is a dem, he is also a banker type and pretty conservative and not prone to histrionics.)

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