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(60,334 posts)While the war hawks push more and more spending on war machines, they attack everything else including Social Security, Welfare, and Infrastructure (which was once deemed necessary to national defense).
Human101948
(3,457 posts)They can fly over the rubble, pinpoint targeting wedding parties and family reunions.
-none
(1,884 posts)We need to get out of the colonial war business and start helping people for the first time in our history.
Yeah, I know, but I can wish and hope.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)erronis
(15,241 posts)Or probably not - the enclaves will be in a no-fly/bomb zone. Carry on.
lark
(23,097 posts)Same with guns. Until a prominent Repug pol has themselves or one of their children killed by a mass murderer, nothing will change.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Who will they catch stealing from us? How much waste, theft, and fraud is there in all of that?
We could have everything we would want, including a strong military if we could take control over this crap!
erronis
(15,241 posts)The auditing can't be done, at least according to them, because of their incompetence (too complicated, not enough time, pencils ran out of lead, etc.)
The MIC dark pools aren't even allowed to be looked at, let alone discussed, let alone audited. Move along comrade, nothing to see here...
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)there is not a monied interest that does not tap into the tax payer dollars.
I just don't get how people get hooked into the dog whistles and everything else and are basically perfectly fine with rich people and corporations bilking the tax payer dollar - that shit burns my ass to no end.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The very words of George W Bush on Feb. 14, 2007, uttered at a press conference in which not a single of the callow, cowed press corpse saw fit to ask a follow-up.
I remember Cindy Sheehan tried to bring it to our nation's attention.
As for his Poppy: Bush Sr told the FBI he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... about how a million monkeys with typewriters might write the Great American Novel? Well, that smirking chimp distilled the essence of conservatism down to three words. Would make a great first line to a novel about the implosion and collapse of America.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)... just what is it the defense budget is defending?
-none
(1,884 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)-none
(1,884 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)planetc
(7,808 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)It is the defending and maintaining a super lavish lifestyle of the few connected elite.
We are facing an enemy more insidious than the nation could have ever imagined.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)All that 'free stuff' these assholes are constantly harping about is for Halliburton/Xe/Raytheon, not We The People.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)And that's why we can't have the things that other civilized countries have.
Isn't. that just lovely?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)Remember after Katrina when bodies where still floating in the streets of NOLA and the first people that they sent in on the ground was to guard the banks and wealthy stores, in military vehicles and heavily armed, no less. Our resources are going to aid, in many ways, the very wealthy and their[/] status quo, we are meant to provide for them and they have no intention of resources being used on us.
HickFromTheTick
(56 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)The US Navy, for example, spends most of their time protecting trade routes bring cheap goods from China and oil from the mid-east.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)They get away with small defense budgets because we take up the slack.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...(food stamps, help for the poor, arts, etc)..are somewhere around 30 percent.
Simply amazing.
'Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.
It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.
It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.
We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat.
We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.
This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road. the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.'
Eisenhower
completely correct, of course...There is one hell of a lot of work to be done to rescue the American people from the corporate death-star...
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I've been saying for years now that it is specifically that military spending that will destroy this nation. At the moment we are the strongest militarily, but in almost every other measure we are well behind: infant mortality, health care, education, just to name three.
As a nation we are very rich, but the income inequality is staggering, and is likely to only get worse. I can only hope that we elect Bernie Sanders next year, and enough like-minded members of Congress to start to turn things around.
KG
(28,751 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)benefit tremendously, but ONE party has been trying to increase that giant sucking sound for decades, and it is the GOP.
**ONE party has built an entire ideology around the virtues of inequality, and it is the GOP.**
Fox News exists in large part to indoctrinate an entire nation in this way of thinking, to keep it from stopping the flow of wealth to the few. This has been going on for decades. Whenever conservatives get unhappy at something, Fox and other right-wing media tell them the Democrats did it. This has been going on for decades.
Can it be you really don't know? You sound as if you may be as indoctrinated in this mass deception as the typical Fox viewer.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)middle and lower classes in the back by supporting the MIC. We expect the GOP but Democrats are supposed to help the 99%.
HRC supports the MIC.
KG
(28,751 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)We can't afford the 'profiteers' anymore.
valerief
(53,235 posts)They_Live
(3,231 posts)is subsidies given to corporations who do not even need them.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Thank God for our savior mutual funds!!!
MasonDreams
(756 posts)He who has the Gold rules. He who has the Gun takes the Gold.
The only way to change this equation is to have a Democracy, Rule of Law,
and an informed engaged electorate to make it all work.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)Many Americans are personally very wealthy, as are corporations.
The phrase "America is going broke" applies to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not having enough money to do its business. The reason it doesn't have enough money is 1. because tax rates on the rich are too low and 2. we have our priorities wrong when it comes to what we spend our money on.
The average American hears "America is going broke" and thinks that they PERSONALLY are going broke...which is exactly what the Rs want them to think.
In reality, the government is going broke because the Rs refuse to raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for government services. America the Country is doing just fine.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Only WE pay for it all. We need a president (a government) that isn't beholden to the MIC for campaign financing. Anyone know of a Democratic Socialist candidate like that???
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Lunabell
(6,080 posts)Thanks for posting.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Omaha Steve
(99,609 posts)K&R!
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