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brewens

(13,538 posts)
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:57 AM Oct 2015

Why is that Benghazi attack being called a terrorist attack in the first place?

Did we call the Viet Cong hitting our guys a terrorist attack during the Vietnam war? It was evidently a planned assault on one of our consulates, but how is that a "terrorist" thing? Even suicide bombers aren't always "terrorists". We didn't call Kamikazi's that during WWII.

They found a vulnerable target and attacked it. It might have been part of a CIA operation that they can't tell us about. Unfortunate that we lost four of our guys, but I still don't see a "terrorist" thing.

9/11, that was a terrorist attack for sure! And it freakin' worked big time! They got us there, and we let it pay off in spades! The so-called "Patriot Act" is all you need to know about that. Bin Ladin 1-Bush 0. Obama settled that score, but we're still paying for Bush and his guys being asleep at the wheel.

The whole "terrorist attack" and Benghazi thing has been the Republicans foaming at the mouth, hoping to pin a "terrorist attack" on Obama! How can anyone even equate that to what Bush let happen on 9/11?

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TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. It's the "CIA operation they can't tell us about" that is most likely the real scandal,
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 01:06 AM
Oct 2015

the attack on the consulate was just a bad outcome of our activities there.

brewens

(13,538 posts)
2. I can't take the time to back this up right now. Someone else probably has it.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 01:16 AM
Oct 2015

I'm pretty sure debate was shut down in the House early on when someone began to spill the beans. I can't remember how the guy put it but I saw it. He eluded to an "agency" involved or something like that?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. The CIA role in Benghazi hasn't been explored seriously. The House Intelligence Committee
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 01:18 AM
Oct 2015

miraculously found "no wrongdoing" on their part and you notice no one's dragging Petraeus or Morrell or Donilon the National Security Advisor or Leon Panetta back to testify. They don't want to go there. Edit to add: Rand Paul's presidential aspirations were pretty much over when he asked Clinton about running guns to Turkey in 2013--they shut that down real quick.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
3. The USA is at war against "terrorists". OK?
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 01:17 AM
Oct 2015

It isn't more differentiated than that.

Now the US has to defend the OIL PORT from Libya.

OK?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,082 posts)
5. the events unfolded on 9/11/12
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 01:58 AM
Oct 2015

The video created by the Coptic Christian was intended to cause a protest/incite to riot Muslims in the region and everywhere if possible. It was a cynical effort to stoke violence on the anniversary of 9/11 at a time there had been relative peace with no terrorist attacks on Americans in a very long time. So of course FNC and Romney jumped all over it. Suddenly, 8 weeks before the election FNC started trumpeting the "terrorist attacks", which to many appeared related to the video.

"Innocence of Muslims" was an obscure Internet video until September 11, when rioters, seizing on it, breached the U.S. Embassy in Cairo. Protesters also attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, killing U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.


I recall the debate about whether or not Obama adequately described the attack on the diplomats in Benghazi as an act of terror. He did. Once. And for Republicans you have to say it 100 times for it to penetrate anyone.

The GOP is a mass of fear wrapped in propaganda. Obama didn't play along, won and now Hillary must pay for their 2012 loss in 2015.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. We did call Viet Cong attacks against civilians "terrorism" at the time, yes
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:11 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1971/jul-aug/mallin.html

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3234249?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Generally today, we call attacks by non-state actors against non-military targets for religious, ideological, or political goals "terrorism".

gordianot

(15,233 posts)
7. Remember how quickly Romney jumped on Benghazi.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 11:56 AM
Oct 2015

I always figured he knew something very early he started parsing words terrorist attack up to the getting his ass handed to him in a debate. I have always suspected this was a CIA operation gone wrong and Republicans made the mistake of trying to make political capital. Coincidently Patreaus and his honey (who was talking too much) almost let the cat out of the bag. The best part of all of this Republicans are left with the worst field of candidates for 2016 imaginable. They didn't get Hillary. The conversation touched on about who got fired and had a letter put in their file was fascinating no names required. Could there have been an operation by Republicans going along with this sad affair? Was the director of the CIA set up by his girl friend? Was the video that sparked this a Republican dirty trick? We mortals will be kept in the dark.

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