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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:28 AM Oct 2015

Saudi Royal, Four Others Detained in Beirut Captagon Bust

A member of the Saudi royal family and four others were detained after authorities discovered two tons of drugs on a private jet in Beirut on Monday, according to Lebanon's state-run news agency and a government official.

The National News Agency said smugglers were attempting to transport the "huge quantity" of Captagon pills — 40 bags worth — to the Saudi capital of Riyadh.

A customs officer displays Captagon pills, part of the 789 kilogrammes of confiscated drugs, before its incineration in Sofia

Monday's bust was the largest-ever smuggling operation uncovered at Beirut's Rafik Hariri International Airport, according to the news agency.

It said the five Saudi nationals held were being questioned.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/saudi-royal-four-others-detained-beirut-captagon-bust-n451486

Captagon has been well documented as a drug that is fed to Jihadists to give them the will to kill themselves in battle and become suicide bombers for the saudi Jihadi Madness.

Captagon: the amphetamine fuelling Syria's civil war
http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/jan/13/captagon-amphetamine-syria-war-middle-east

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Saudi Royal, Four Others Detained in Beirut Captagon Bust (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 OP
What exactly is ‘Captagon’, the drug of choice for Isis fighters? Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #1
Captagon®: The Secret Weapon of ISIS Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #2
Didn't US troops use something similar to this? peace13 Oct 2015 #4
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh malaise Oct 2015 #8
Exactly.. peace13 Oct 2015 #14
Their treatment of the Kurdish prisoners malaise Oct 2015 #17
Oh yeah how ISIS treats prisoners is the moral equivalent of Abu Ghraib Kurska Oct 2015 #38
That is quite a lot of crank, that is. bemildred Oct 2015 #3
Murderous swiss cheese. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #7
Oh I've been around crank. bemildred Oct 2015 #9
Updated the post you replied to with a video...check it out...nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #10
Yeah, the eyes. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #11
If it wasn't serious it might be lol Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #12
Hard to say. bemildred Oct 2015 #13
He looks like the guy in this onion article independentpiney Oct 2015 #20
That expression makes Charlie Manson look like hifiguy Oct 2015 #36
Why do I assume edhopper Oct 2015 #5
a good hint... Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #6
Saudi prince held on suspicion of drug smuggling in Lebanon bemildred Oct 2015 #15
Curious how is name is variously Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #16
Twitter goes wild as Beirut becomes the site of (another) Saudi royal scandal bemildred Oct 2015 #21
Thanks for the name. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #22
It is nothing. bemildred Oct 2015 #23
Every single day, Kim Jong Cartman hifiguy Oct 2015 #29
Yep, what a man. bemildred Oct 2015 #30
The expression on that tallish male soldier on the left hifiguy Oct 2015 #31
Yeah, and Kim really needs a codpiece. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #34
Why are Saudi Royals smuggling it? notadmblnd Oct 2015 #26
See post #27. Probably both. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #28
As the oil market and their fortunes tank, you can bet they will try to maintain their lifestyles ToxMarz Oct 2015 #18
The secret weapon of ISIS bemildred Oct 2015 #19
Another interesting aspect of the rise of ISIS hifiguy Oct 2015 #32
It takes a lot of money to buy loyalty. Ask the Sauds. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #33
Still, how do you lose 363 tons of ANYTHING, hifiguy Oct 2015 #35
You got me. I know it is not the first time we have done such a thing. bemildred Oct 2015 #37
Saudi Arabia executes people over drugs while its princes are caught with tons of drugs at the airpo bemildred Oct 2015 #24
Guess he didn't give the Saudis their cut hobbit709 Oct 2015 #25
Seems to be a longstanding problem. bemildred Oct 2015 #27
Several armed groups have experimented with Meth for soldiers. Kurska Oct 2015 #39
Yes. War and drugs have a long history together. bemildred Oct 2015 #40

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
1. What exactly is ‘Captagon’, the drug of choice for Isis fighters?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:33 AM
Oct 2015

Isis fighters in Syria have been using an amphetamine called ‘Captagon’ to stay alert in battle – a drug unknown outside the Middle East.

Made out of easily available legal substances, this drug was first created in the sixties to treat hyperactivity, narcolepsy and depression but was banned in eighties for being too addictive.

While cheap to make, it has a street value of $20 (£12.90) and revenues from its sale reaches into the millions of dollars – part of which is believed to be used by the Islamic State and other militia groups in Syria to buy weapons.

Lebanese psychiatrist, Ramzi Haddad, told the Guardian that Captagon has ‘the typical effects of a stimulant’ and produces ‘a kind of euphoria – you’re talkative, you don’t sleep, you don’t eat, you’re energetic.’

(and don't care if you die for a worthless cause) ed note.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/19/what-exactly-is-captagon-the-drug-of-choice-for-isis-fighters-5449606/

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
2. Captagon®: The Secret Weapon of ISIS
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:35 AM
Oct 2015

There are reports coming out from Kobani, Syria, of dead ISIS rebels being found with pills in their possession.

Ekram Ahmet, a Kurd who fled Kobani with his family, told Mirror: “They are filthy, with straggly beards and long black nails.”

“They have lots of pills with them that they all keep taking. It seems to make them more crazy if anything.”

“They become agitated and excited, desperate to punish even children for the smallest thing.”

The Kurds believe these pills are amphetamines, and this would go a long way to explaining why ISIS members are so maniacal and fight with suicidal abandon.

https://medium.com/clouds-taste-metallic/captagon-the-secret-weapon-of-isis-6c7e95da1064#.cl3217vcr

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
4. Didn't US troops use something similar to this?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:40 AM
Oct 2015

During the Iraq invasion I remember a huge bust in NY on a shipment headed out?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
38. Oh yeah how ISIS treats prisoners is the moral equivalent of Abu Ghraib
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:15 PM
Oct 2015

Meanwhile, on planet reality....

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
7. Murderous swiss cheese.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:52 AM
Oct 2015

We know what meth heads are capable in the US, imagine an army of meth heads.

Here is one of them captured by the Syrian Army, he's so wired he doesn't know he's been captured. Look at those eyeballs.



bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. Oh I've been around crank.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:01 PM
Oct 2015

It was very popular in the 70s. And what I remember is that it will fuck you up, and fast too. Booze takes a long time to kill you. Crank just takes a year or two. It scared me, and I am not easily scared. If they are shovelling out that stuff to the ISIS troops that would explain many things.

independentpiney

(1,510 posts)
20. He looks like the guy in this onion article
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:28 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.theonion.com/article/meth-addicts-demand-government-address-nations-gro-2137

Which brings up the question of what they're going to do when all the goddamned spiders start over running their territory.
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. That expression makes Charlie Manson look like
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:51 PM
Oct 2015

Nutbar Ben Carson.

Unhinged, heavily armed maniacs jacked up to the moon on powerful speed and lunatic religion. That's sure to end well...

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
15. Saudi prince held on suspicion of drug smuggling in Lebanon
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:45 PM
Oct 2015

(CNN)A member of Saudi Arabia's royal family was detained at the Beirut, Lebanon, airport over an alleged attempt to smuggle drugs out of the country on a private plane, a security source told CNN.

The prince was among five Saudi nationals arrested Monday after being accused of trying to transport 2 tons of Captagon amphetamine pills onto a plane bound for Saudi Arabia, according to the official Lebanese National News Agency.

It was the largest drug bust ever conducted at the Beirut-Rafik Hariri International Airport, the news agency reported.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/middleeast/lebanon-saudi-prince-drugs/

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
16. Curious how is name is variously
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

Saudi and prince. Come on Lebanon don't be scared to actually name him.

Tons of meth on a plane, thats headlines anywhere.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
21. Twitter goes wild as Beirut becomes the site of (another) Saudi royal scandal
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:59 PM
Oct 2015

It's been a very uncomfortable few weeks for the Saudi Royal Family. First, there was that raunchy LA mansion scandal, a laundry list of offenses from which the Saudi prince in question basically got to walk away. But the charges facing another Saudi prince this week in Lebanon may be harder to evade. You know, being the biggest drug bust in Lebanon's recent history and all.

Authorities at Beirut's Rafik Hariri International Airport reportedly stopped a Monday flight to Saudi Arabia on the prince's personal jet after finding two tons of narcotics onboard, local media reported, including 40 suitcases full of the Middle East's widely used amphetamine, captagon.

The prince, who has been identified as Abd al-Muhsen bin Walid bin Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, was detained with four others at the airport.

Now the story's making waves on social media, with users musing on what's next in the latest addition to a growing list of inter-continental Saudi scandals.

http://www.albawaba.com/loop/twitter-goes-wild-beirut-becomes-site-another-saudi-royal-scandal-760112

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
29. Every single day, Kim Jong Cartman
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:10 PM
Oct 2015

is thrilled to note that the overfilled walking shitpails that make up the Saudi "royal" family continue to work overtime to ensure that he's not the worst "world leader."

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
18. As the oil market and their fortunes tank, you can bet they will try to maintain their lifestyles
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:55 PM
Oct 2015

by any means possible

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
19. The secret weapon of ISIS
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:06 PM
Oct 2015

It may seem like—almost overnight— ISIS seized and occupied vast swaths of land from Syria to Iraq, with a group that is highly motivated and highly adaptive. However, what has enabled the group to achieve such success in capturing large territories? How have they achieved what other terror groups have attempted and failed at for so long? The answer may not be their abilities or even their ideology, but rather it seems to be a drug they use.

It’s already known across much of the developed world that the use of amphetamine, a drug that stimulates the central nervous system, can enhance an individual’s success. Many university students have been using amphetamine salts, Adderall in particular, to keep up with the increasingly intensified study programs. It is estimated that nearly 30% of university students in the United States use the amphetamine salt to increase their cognitive functionality, stay awake longer, and eliminate fatigue while studying. But just as something can be used with good intentions, it can also be used for bad intentions as well.

Adderall in itself is a powerful drug, which improves cognitive functionality and alertness, but what happens when a drug is made half with Adderall and half with Theophylline (similar to caffeine)? The result of that combination is a drug called Captagon. Think of it as a mixture of the effects of Adderall with an added coffee or energy drink stimulant— with a timed release.

How does this play into the current regional conflicts in the Middle East? It’s a rather simple answer with a more complex explanation. Since Captagon is so effective, it is used by extremist groups throughout the region and the world. However, with the destabilization of Syria, much of the pharmaceutical supplies have fallen into the hands of ISIS militants. This is when Captagon started to emerge as the drug of choice within the ISIS militant community and command. If the drug isn’t available, it isn’t too difficult for someone to create homemade concoctions, since the ingredients needed to create the drug are relatively available in the neighboring states of Syria and Iraq.

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/blogs/566129-the-secret-weapon-of-isis

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
32. Another interesting aspect of the rise of ISIS
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:27 PM
Oct 2015

relates to (what else?) a signature Chimp-n-Cheney operation. Namely, whatever happened to the TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS in US $100 bills (363 TONS worth) they ordered sent to Iraq which, for the most part, completely disappeared. Where did that unfathomable amount of cash GO? I'd say it's a safe bet alQ in Iraq, n/k/a ISIS wound up with a very significant chunk of it.
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The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent.

The staggering scale of the biggest transfer of cash in the history of the Federal Reserve has been graphically laid bare by a US congressional committee.

In the year after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 nearly 281 million notes, weighing 363 tonnes, were sent from New York to Baghdad for disbursement to Iraqi ministries and US contractors. Using C-130 planes, the deliveries took place once or twice a month with the biggest of $2,401,600,000 on June 22 2004, six days before the handover.

Details of the shipments have emerged in a memorandum prepared for the meeting of the House committee on oversight and government reform which is examining Iraqi reconstruction. Its chairman, Henry Waxman, a fierce critic of the war, said the way the cash had been handled was mind-boggling. "The numbers are so large that it doesn't seem possible that they're true. Who in their right mind would send 363 tonnes of cash into a war zone?"

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
35. Still, how do you lose 363 tons of ANYTHING,
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:47 PM
Oct 2015

much less that amount of CASH???

Realistically assuming a weight of 7 tons for a full-grown African bull elephant or 1.5 tons for an average automobile, that is just over 51 ELEPHANTS or 242 full-sized CARS that literally vanished into thin air.

Not even quantum mechanics can explain that.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
37. You got me. I know it is not the first time we have done such a thing.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:02 PM
Oct 2015

Admittedly a difference in scale.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
24. Saudi Arabia executes people over drugs while its princes are caught with tons of drugs at the airpo
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:39 PM
Oct 2015

Saudi prince Abdel Mohsen bin Walid bin Abdulaziz was caught in an airport in Lebanon on Monday with over two tons of drugs.

Lebanese security found 40 suitcases full of more than 4,000 pounds of amphetamine pills and cocaine on the prince’s private plane, which was on its way to Saudi capital city Riyadh. A security source told AFP that this was the largest smuggling operation ever foiled by Beirut International Airport security.

While this may seem like just another case of rich and powerful aristocrats going wild, the implications of this drug bust are much more insidious: In Saudi Arabia, people are executed over drugs. And not rarely — several times a month, on average.

In fact, just hours after the Saudi prince was caught with thousands of pounds of drugs, a Pakistani drug smuggler was executed by the Saudi government.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/27/saudi_arabia_executes_people_over_drugs_while_its_princes_are_caught_with_tons_of_drugs_at_the_airport/

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
39. Several armed groups have experimented with Meth for soldiers.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:18 PM
Oct 2015

Nazi Germany handed out millions of methamphetamine and cocaine based pills to soldiers during the war.

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