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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:35 AM Oct 2015

Hobby Lobby .... Schadenfreude ?

Billionaire Hobby Lobby boss under federal investigation for possibly smuggling hundreds of Middle Eastern biblical artifacts to be exhibited in their 'Museum of the Bible'
The Green family has been under investigation for the last four years
In 2011 US Customs seized nearly 300 clay tablets containing cuneiform script, which emerged in present-day Iraq thousands of years ago
Tablets were meant to be delivered to Hobby Lobby headquarters in Oklahoma City
The family had labeled the tablets to be worth a total of $300 and described them as 'hand-crafted clay tiles'
The Greens have a 40,000-piece collection of artifacts meant for the Museum of the Bible, a nonprofit museum they funded


.....Shipments valued over $2,500 are required to undergo formal entry through US Customs and Border Protection, a much more extensive process than the expedited informal entry.
Hobby Lobby CEO Steve Green told The Daily Beast it's possible his family's collection contains some 'illicit' artifacts, but if it does it is without his knowledge.
The Green family has accumulated a $4.5billion fortune since launching their craft store in 1970, with more than 600 shops now doting the nation.
But it wasn't until last year that the chain shot into the headlines, winning a landmark Supreme Court case that ruled they were exempt from providing birth control to employees due to their Christian beliefs.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3291107/Hobby-Lobby-family-federal-investigation-possibly-smuggling-biblical-artifacts.html#ixzz3pmb4MOlc
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Hmmm---are they also "exempt from providing" truthful information to Customs authorities "due to their Christian beliefs?" What a load of hypocrites.

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. More on this...the "L" word....LOOTED from the Middle East!!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:35 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/26/exclusive-feds-investigate-hobby-lobby-boss-for-illicit-artifacts.html


Exclusive: Feds Investigate Hobby Lobby Boss for Illicit Artifacts


One of America’s most famously Christian businesses is amassing a vast collection of Biblical antiquities. The problem is some of them may have been looted from the Middle East.
In 2011, a shipment of somewhere between 200 to 300 small clay tablets on their way to Oklahoma City from Israel was seized by U.S. Customs agents in Memphis. The tablets were inscribed in cuneiform—the script of ancient Assyria and Babylonia, present-day Iraq—and were thousands of years old. Their destination was the compound of the Hobby Lobby corporation, which became famous last year for winning a landmark Supreme Court case on religious freedom and government mandates. A senior law enforcement source with extensive knowledge of antiquities smuggling confirmed that these ancient artifacts had been purchased and were being imported by the deeply-religious owners of the crafting giant, the Green family of Oklahoma City. For the last four years, law enforcement sources tell The Daily Beast, the Greens have been under federal investigation for the illicit importation of cultural heritage from Iraq.

These tablets, like the other 40,000 or so ancient artifacts owned by the Green family, were destined for the Museum of the Bible, the giant new museum funded by the Greens, slated to open in Washington, D.C., in 2017. Both the seizure of the cuneiform tablets and the subsequent federal investigation were confirmed to us by Cary Summers, the president of the Museum of the Bible.

From its founding in 1970, the Greens’ Hobby Lobby chain has been more than simply a suite of craft stores. The Greens have used it as a model of a business run on Christian values. Stores are closed on Sundays in order to give employees time to attend church. The company employs four chaplains, and offered a free health clinic to staff at its headquarters long before free health care came into political vogue. The Greens have also used the Hobby Lobby platform to spread their Christian message far and wide: The company annually places full-page ads celebrating—in their words— “the real meaning of Christmas, Easter, and Independence Day” in newspapers across the country.



But the Greens went from evangelical players to bona fide Christian celebrities in June of 2014 when they won a Supreme Court case, Burwell v. Hobby Lobby. It granted them exemption from the Obamacare mandate to provide certain forms of contraception to their employees; forcing the company to do so, the Supreme Court ruled, would have violated the Greens’ deeply-held Christian beliefs.

If the investigation ends with a decision to prosecute, on either criminal or civil charges, the Greens may be forced to forfeit the tablets to the government. There may also be a fine involved. The Green family, who successfully forced the federal government to legally recognize their personal moral standards, now find themselves on the other side of the docket, under suspicion of having attempted to contravene U.S. laws............

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. "Isis" isn't in the habit of collecting ancient cunieform tablets. Those came from
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:19 PM
Oct 2015

Iraqi museums. Stolen. Looted.

REP

(21,691 posts)
7. ISIS might've been involved in the sale of these looted items
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:32 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, I know their usual MO is to destroy things - objects too large to remove and sell, now that I think about it. I don't thin they (or another equally unsavory group) would be above selling these objects to the highest bidder.

While it breaks my heart that an idiot like Green has them, I am glad they still exist.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. I've seen zero evidence of that, and most of this stuff is probably from collections in Baghdad.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:25 PM
Oct 2015

Not in Isis-controlled territory.

If you learn more, please add to the conversation.

REP

(21,691 posts)
10. Do you think it's individuals selling looted items or an organized group?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:44 PM
Oct 2015

I'm not hung up on it being ISIS (and admit to being ignorant of where their exact territory); as I said, it could easily be another group that's less of a media darling. As soon as the looting began, I suspected (and hoped) the antiquities would start showing up on the black market. Some collectors (and museums) aren't always too picky about provenance. If it's an organized group of some sort, there's a better chance of more items still existing.

winstars

(4,219 posts)
8. Thanks for the info. I was more or less hoping HL would have more issues concerning this matter.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:10 PM
Oct 2015

I was unaware the ISIS hadn't looted (stolen) these types of Iraqi artifacts from museums.

 

Teagan

(62 posts)
3. I hope both Iraqi and U.S. makes an agreement
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:36 PM
Oct 2015

that he is to be shipped to Baghdad, Iraq to repair all the antiquities in full restoration from what he stole.

He should be on a ball and chain for the rest of his life.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Sratch a fundie and they bleed hypocracy.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:25 PM
Oct 2015

Some of the most twisted people I know are fundies. So he plundered a fallen nation's treasury did he? Got caught did he? This is a little more serious than the asshole that shot Cecil the Lion.

There could be some jailtime in this one. Hope he reads his Bible. Sounds like he might need his Master's help.

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