He never should of been allowed to be around children. He should of been fired after the first person he assualted.

and the people who defend him are sick in the head.

It's rather revealing to observe despotic and imperious sentiments poorly masked by the bumper-sticker called Devil's Advocate (advocating the pretense that dogmatic tyrants are but a small price we pay for classroom discipline...)

All of them.

....

Fucking pig.

Those who protect, harbor or employ such psychopaths also should be guilty of aiding and abetting child abuse.

It's like the war criminals and traitors who lied America into war also should be behind bars.

Of course it is child abuse. If this had been done by any adult or even the child parents, they would be in jail for child abuse.
Somehow we give a pass to cops. Apparently its okay if they abuse childrens. That is disgusting.

Because their bosses do.

I don't even care what she did - he should be sent to prison for that.

I read where he was being sued by two other citizens for previous uses of force.

He's a roid user, I'd bet anything.

That fucker should be prosecuted and jailed - for a good long while - for first-degree assault. The evidence is all right there and the trial should take about thirty seconds.

He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.

But I think that IMMEDIATELY he should be fired.

He is a football coach and weightlifter, both interests that encourage steroid use.

And he is a cop; illegal steroid dealers have reported that 25% of police use steroids because they believe it gives them an advantage in physical confrontations with teens and young adults.

And the cop's physical appearance is typical of steroid users.

If it looks like a duck . . .

just sayin.

But a host locked my first thread without a consensus vote from what I am told.

Tried to say it violated the rules but me thinks there were other reasons. So I worded it a bit differently.

It's the fuckers on the internet who are defending this asshole cop.

and if this guy doesn't get shit canned then I don't know.

Though I doubt even the Gestapo would brutally assault a schoolgirl sitting in a classroom. Frog march out, yes, but even they wouldn't have sunk to this. This is fucking barbarism. Anyone who defends that kind of crap has forfeited their own humanity.

Time to jail all the kkkops for good and just start over.

they were nastily 'professional' in their own way and it's more intimidating to just walk the girl out and let her disappear (Night and Fog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacht_und_Nebel )

even better when you get the teachers in on it and rewrite history

what, student x? i don't know a student x, i never had a student x, no student x has ever been enrolled in this school, nor according to the birth records has such a child ever been born

it used to be taught at "the school of the americas" as well

don't worry, it's could be coming too, give it a few years.
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As for the cop, needs to be tried and prosecuted, before then drug tested.

the only partially justifiable time i could see that reaction is if she was drawing down (pulling a gun, knife or similar) or threatened and then went with a hand inside jacket (eg, if she said "i have a gun, i'm gonna kill you"...and then reached inside bag or jacket)

and that could forfeit my humanity according to you, but at that point, had she had a gun, it would be 'safety of a classroom of kids versus damage to one person' and the reaction would be accordingly

the problem is US police seems trained to react to anything including 'sassing back' as 'lethal weapon being drawn'

But the brutality is the same.

And I have zero doubt that if one more servant of the plutocracy is elected POTUS (regardless of their nominal party affiliation, they all belong first to the Money Party) this will be a common, completely unremarkable sight in everyday life. They "protect and serve" only themselves and the 1% and absolutely NO ONE ELSE.

"knowing what side the bread is buttered on" meaning

(knowing where the paycheck/money/power comes from)

US police know that

There are good cops, i've met some
there are bad cops, i've met some
problem is the 'good cops' won't give up the 'bad cops' ..blue code of silence
which means there isn't a 'control feedback loop'

it becomes a negative feedback...rolling out of control like a snowball downhill

on a side note you may find this funny, i did

A friend of mine got stickers that said 'the rich' in the same font and color as the 'protect and serve' on the cars (bout a year ago) he got 100 he's got 60 or so left

i'm sure you can figure out his purpose with them :-p

as the Mafia, and omerta, the code of silence, is the central pillar of both.

are generally supposed to be good places to vanish people

one can always officially claim
escape attempt
accidental overdose
accidental negative reaction to treatment (medication)
a couple of packs of smokes could get the person shanked, beaten to death or similar

probably not that hard to hide/dispose of a body either

problem would be at 'roll calls' where the system would work against the vanish
then again, "own the clerk, own the records! own the records, own history!"

is this 'secret prison' too secret for links or should i google?

Heres a couple to get you started, but there are a number of threads about it which may be of better value:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026273452

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017248159

I'm more than happy to point in the direction of this information to those who haven't seen it yet.


That shit...in Chicago...needs to end.

into mental institutions, which Khrushchev actually fessed up to before the Supreme Soviet when he attempted to de-Stalinize the USSR. Especially under Stalin and, later, Brezhnev.

It's a time-honored tool of all authoritarian/totalitarian states.

work camps aren't too bad either for vanishing, Soviet used that one a lot.


It's amazing how many people can freeze to death if you take away their over coats, keep them in uninsulated (that's a word right?) huts, starve them and then make sure they work hard enough to sweat or melt the snow on their clothes so the clothes get wet and won't insulate either.

I guess nobodies safety is of concern when a cop is experiencing full Roid Rage.

when he turned the desk over.

It is disturbing also how the rest of the students carry on as if this is business as usual.

They carry on as usual because they were probably terrified of what would happen if they protested or did anything else.

was arrested for it. Police state...for some.

or maybe her laptop. I don't think the young lady was hit.

Not that the cop was being careful or anything...

The other girl doesn't notice (until it hits her), because she shields her eyes from the human rights violation. Not saying that was intentional, but I don't see safety and order as the priority of the cop.

Never question authority.

When he flipped the chair it ended up hitting the girl on the legs.

FIRE his ass!

PEACE!

including a pregnant girl in 2012."


CIVIL LIBERTIES
South Carolina Teen Who Filmed School Cop's Assault is Arrested for "Disturbing Schools"
This story keeps getting worse.
By Adam Johnson / AlterNet October 27, 2015


UPDATE: This has gotten much worse. Niya Kenny, 18, who filmed the now infamous arrest has been arrested herself for "disturbing schools." She's out on $1000 bail.

WLTX reports that Kenny was trying to "stand up for her friend" when she filmed the assault, telling Loren Thomas of WLTX, "I was crying, screaming and crying like a baby. I was in disbelief." Both Kenny and her mother are understandably skeptical as to why she was arrested for "disturbing schools."

"But looking at the video, who was really disturbing schools?" Kenny's mother told WLTX. "Was it my daughter or the officer who came into the classroom and did that to the young girl?"

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Ben Fields, the South Carolina police officer whose attack on a black student went viral in a video Monday, has faced previous abuse allegations.

Heavy.com posted a lawsuit that alleges Fields "recklessly targeted ... African-American Students With Allegations of Gang Membership." The suit, brought by Spring Valley High student Ashton James Reese, claims that Fields and a number of other officers violated his civil rights by targeting him and other students for "gang activity" where none existed. The lawsuit is currently pending and the trial is set for Jan. 27, 2016.

Another lawsuit from 2007 alleges Fields violated the civil rights of a man and woman in Columbia, SC. The man, Carlos Martin, says he and his wife were harassed by Fields in an apartment parking lot after making a "friendly gesture and greeting." Fields allegedly became enraged when Martin referred to him as "dude," though the lawsuit claims the term was used with "no disrespect." In his reply to the lawsuit Fields claimed Martin was playing "loud music" and became "boisterous" when he was approached. Both charges against Martin and his wife and the subsequent lawsuit were dropped.

Several students took to Twitter claiming Fields had a history of "slamming" people for years, including a pregnant girl in 2012.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/cop-who-assaulted-black-south-carolina-teen-has-history-abuse-allegations?akid=13608.44541.LqI19g&rd=1&src=newsletter1044792&t=4

I mean, seriously, the young woman behind her glances up for a second then looks back down to her laptop. You see the leg of another student in the left of the frame, doesn't even flinch when someone is being brutalized 5ft away?

What kind of world are we building for them? How do they view us and what do they think deep down inside. I hope this is a watershed moment for students all over the country.

This abuse cannot be allowed to stand. The admins and the teaching staff owe it to this young lady. Sitting in defiance is how you piss off the adults...heard loud and clear! Wouldn't it be something if students started doing non-violent sit-in protests around the country?

One girl from what I understand stood up and got arrested as well.

To be that passe, the other students must expect this occurrence.

It must suck being in that class.

those other kids know the drill. Keep your head down and don't say anything lest you get beat down as well. Fuck this victim-blaming bullshit.

The saddest thing I've seen all day.

there would have been dead bodies littering the floor.

We live in a society where violence like this is normalized.

The kids in that classroom have seen this before--cops don't do shit like that in a school where that doesn't happen on a regular basis. At the school I went to, a cop did that, the whole school would have flipped. That kind of violence occurs in places where it's invisible, where it happens regularly. Law school students are often shocked when they go on a ride along with police in a poor minority area and witness the utter lack of respect for human rights and constitutional rights on the part of the officers and the normalcy of those violations to their victims. The same occurs in schools.

You don't resist that, either. What good is it going to do? When you have a country with the racial dynamics we do, when you have a society that readily accepts violence towards minority communities, when you have militarized police taught to view people as the enemy and fueled by racism and state power, what good is resisting going to do?

If I'm a black kid watching a white police officer assault another student with the school authority enabling it, am I going to speak up? No. Because it could very easily get me killed, because resisting violence means I'm an angry black person (remember black kids are seen as adults), and that's a death sentence in America.

handcuffed and arrested for doing so.

Considering what these kids see on the internet all the time (including people dying in police custody when innocent or when guilty of only minor misdemeanors) they are probably all too aware that he could seriously beat them or even cripple or kill them without being punished. He is known for roughing kids up in the school, so they are probably afraid he will harass them all the time afterward if they dare to cross him.

I'm sure they knew better than to say something out of a sense of self-preservation.

Not equipped with the tools to deal with such a situation, that experience provides, I mean.

The teacher on the other hand, has no such excuse.

I guess it's just business as usual in SC. Disgusting!

ETA, it was actually the students who intervened in the end. One heroic young lady was arrested and is facing criminal charges as a result. She's on with Chris Hayes tonight.

Brought about by the States insistence on compliance above all else. The foundation of this country is to comply to common sense orders. The rest is to resist a police state or a hegemony.

I am not sure what that term means. My experience in america is that you comply to the system and its rules or you go hungry or homeless or pressed down into a million forms of humiliation. I don't see how those rules have changed significantly in the 240 years of american history. Civil rights revolutions? Yes. Counter-cultural revolutions? I don't know of any.

and winning in court? There are two sides to this country, on one side is order and on the other is reform. We all want an orderly society, but not all of us want to reform it to make it better for everyone. Sometimes the majority switches from the need for order to the need for reform out of a nessesity for change in our social make up. Blacklivematter is a great current example.

When the majority falls into the second group, you have a counter-cultural movement. Occupy Wall Street is a good recent example.

That they exist is proof that truly sick people don't know they are sick.

Evidently he has a history of using extreme force for no apparent reason. My verdict...roids.

He needs to be tested, but right now he's home being paid.

He has all the time in the world to flush out his system (if possible).

total roido meathead.

Or is it Attica?

in my opinion.

I don't get that attitude AT ALL. There were no ambiguities here. The cop was a violent thug who attacked a young girl. No excuses for that in any universe.

if the victim were white. The "cops can do no wrong" crowd are, as you noted, the toadying bootlickers who self-identify with all authoritarians. Though I have no doubt many if not most of them are also as racist as can be.

Absolutely.

It's just that it's even better if an AA or Latino person is the receiving end.

All of this because the girl glanced at her cell phone.

That was the alleged disruption of the class that led to this escalation.

Schools are loco parentis. If a parent did that, he/she would be charged with child abuse. Why isn't this police officer charged with that crime? Or what about the teachers and principal who call in a police officer to handle a non-crime such a glancing at a cell phone.

If I were a child in school and saw shit like that, I could hardly wait until I could drop out of school. Who in their sane mind would want to stay in an environment where you are subjected to this shit or have to witness this shit?

I want to know who is scum and needs to be utterly discredited.

While not necessarily in a school, this kind of thing has been going on for ages.

In the 80s, for example, I witnessed a cop slam a guy into the concrete wall of a gas station building for telling the cop he had the owners permission (which he did in fact have) to be IN that parking lot.

They're taking their street behavior with them off the streets, in a whole lot of cases.

This @#$% isn't going away...

That is outrageous!

She must have been a real threat sitting at her desk like that (sarcasm). He has no concern for the other students in the room either, he could have easily injured that student sitting at the desk behind the girl being abused.

but this is truth. If that cop had been a big black dude and that girl had been the same size white girl then the same people who are defending this would be freaking out about it.

These same people are terrified of the evil government coming to take their freedoms away but will cheer on this kind of shit.

people are nuts.

"Don't know the entire context" as to what happened before the tape blah blah blah.

I can't go into a formal analysis of the voices and cachets of the experts involved, but going by what else was said:

It is clear we live in a police state and that we had better comply and get used to it, or else.

I hope they fry him like bacon.