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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:11 PM Mar 2016

One more batshit crazy, off-the-rails, clueless celebrity knob boards the Trump Train

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/9/jon-voight-endorses-donald-trump-hes-an-answer-to-/

Award-winning actor Jon Voight has endorsed Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump for president.

“He’s an answer to our problems. We need to get behind him,” Mr. Voight, 77, told Breitbart News in an interview Tuesday evening. “The Republicans need to unite behind this man. We need somebody to go in and reconstruct us in a sort of way, get us back to where we were, who we need to be.”

The “Woodlawn” actor hit Mr. Trump’s most vocal critics, particularly former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who recently called Mr. Trump a “fraud” who is playing the American people for “suckers.”

Mr. Voight lamented: “We felt so great about his family, we put Mr. Romney’s picture on our refrigerators and so on, and now he turns around and does this, which is so way out of line.”

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One more batshit crazy, off-the-rails, clueless celebrity knob boards the Trump Train (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2016 OP
Now there's a figure of quality. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #1
Trump supporters: We NEED Trump because this nation NEEDS a dictator to save us from democracy. blm Mar 2016 #2
And now you know why Angelina Jolie refuses to use her last name. KamaAina Mar 2016 #3
I'd expect nothing less from Milo Minderbinder Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #4
That's a shocker. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #5
Millionaire actors should be barred from making endorsements 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #6
No. There are too many liberal Hollywood types that help our side Bucky Mar 2016 #13
Uh - no leftynyc Mar 2016 #16
It's just a figure of speech. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #21
But it is not, it is you seeking to quash the voices of an artistic practice that is over attacked Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #23
How would I go about quashing their voices? 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #25
OK leftynyc Mar 2016 #24
"we put Mr. Romney’s picture on our refrigerators and so on" yellowcanine Mar 2016 #7
He put Romney's picture on his refrigerator? JHB Mar 2016 #8
Yuck. Just wish all those old '60s "leftists" had been Hortensis Mar 2016 #9
BS Hortensis. Nitram Mar 2016 #11
So, I was one of those liberals then and still am. But I'm not talking about people like me. Hortensis Mar 2016 #15
While I admire his acting, Voight went of the political rails decades ago. nt Nitram Mar 2016 #10
John Voigt's been damned cray all along. Remember his "open letter to Obama"? Bucky Mar 2016 #12
He was a loser in my book anyway.......ugh. eom a kennedy Mar 2016 #14
I was expecting this to be about Kelsey Grammer. lpbk2713 Mar 2016 #17
He probably wanted to take a hit of whatever Carson is taking. madinmaryland Mar 2016 #18
"Reconstruct" us? Catlover827 Mar 2016 #19
Calling someone an "old white fart" is strange. virgogal Mar 2016 #28
I am also an old white fart (and a Virgo) n/t Catlover827 Mar 2016 #33
He's been nuts for decades. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #20
Get us back to where we were when? The Roaring 20s? The pre-civil rights era? Pre-Civil War? Roland99 Mar 2016 #22
And here I thought this thread was about Kanye West who has also endorsed Trump. LonePirate Mar 2016 #26
In General, The Answer To Any Question.... Laxman Mar 2016 #27
What about Cliff Clavin? Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #29
Voight has done the most amazing 180 over the last 40 years. rsdsharp Mar 2016 #30
I know! What the hell happened to him? n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #31
Jon Voight has been a crazy ass RWer for years. Not surprised. nt Fla Dem Mar 2016 #32
Voight has been off the rails for years. jwirr Mar 2016 #34
Oh, THAT guy -What took him so long? LiberalElite Mar 2016 #35
Jon Voight has been a longtime fucking moron. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #36
I suspect his character on "Ray Donovan" isn't much of a stretch REP Mar 2016 #37

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
5. That's a shocker.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016
When Rational Wiki has an article about a celebrity, in all likelihood they're a massive fucking nutter.

Although his acting skills cannot be disputed, Voight is one of the dumbest celebrities there is. A former anti-war, counter-cultural lefty in the sixties and seventies, he later converted to Catholicism and joined the Dark Side of the Force. In 2007, on Bill O'Reilly's laughable excuse for a show, he chastised anyone with enough brainpower to see George W. Bush as the abysmal failure that he was. Voight defended the inept President, saying he he had a heavy heart to hear people say "quite unthinkable" things about Bush. You know, things like Bush's insistence on driving up the national debt, his using 9/11 as pretext to start a war in an oil-rich nation, his blind eye to America's crumbling healthcare system, his inability to catch Bin Laden, his ignorance to the reality of climate change, his refusal to contribute much-needed funds for stem-cell research, etc. In other words, Voight must have had his head up his ass the whole time, not only for chastising people because they were exercising their democratic right to free speech, but for defending the most incompetent President since James Buchanan. But Voight wasn't done there. After defending Bush, he turned to slandering Nancy Pelosi and slandering the Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. [2]

In a screed published in a Neocon rag known as The Washington Times in July 2008, Voight went on a paranoid nonsensical rant about how Obama would create a socialist nation and that America would be made weaker with his election. Not only did Voight provide no basis for these outrageous claims, he again failed to acknowledge the fact that Bush had already made America weaker and unpopular around the world. Voight continued his whining and bitching, complaining that CNN (that's right, CNN) was being partisan in their reporting of the 2008 Presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin. [3]

In 2009, with his acting career in the toilet, he clearly became the GOP's unofficial spokesman, slandering Obama wherever he went, while singing the praises of Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity and blowhard Bill O'Reilly. In August, he said President Obama was taking away "God's first gift to man, our free will" simply because Obama wanted to insure the uninsured. In November he asked a crowd of knuckle-dragging teabaggers a question about whether Barack Obama had received "20 years of subconscious programming by Reverend Wright to 'damn America'". ABC's Cokie Roberts called Voight's performance "cringemaking". She was absolutely right. Even conservative columnist George Will condemned Voight's disgraceful actions. One certainly cannot blame Angelina for wanting nothing to do with this senile old fool.

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
6. Millionaire actors should be barred from making endorsements
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

They are full of themselves and think that they are changing the world but what do they know about the lives of normal people? For them, it's only a political game. Their lives are not going to change much no matter who gets elected. They support the party they always have been inclined to support with little justification. Period.

On the left, you have actors supporting Bernie Sanders who wants to break up the big banks which big studios rely on and on the right, you have actors supporting Donald Trump because they see a reflection of one of their own in him, a Rambo/Terminator type figure. Idiots.

Alfred Hitchcock said it best when he said that actors should be treated like cattle.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
13. No. There are too many liberal Hollywood types that help our side
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

That just doesn't make sense, tactically or ethically. People have a right to speak their minds in America, just like the rest of us have a right to point out where those speaking out are being dumbshits.

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
21. It's just a figure of speech.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

Don't take things literally, please. Sometimes I like to say that people should be taken out and shot for saying or doing something really stupid. Rest assured that I don't mean it literally either.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. But it is not, it is you seeking to quash the voices of an artistic practice that is over attacked
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

by the right in the US for speaking out. That's not a figure of speech, and you are not speaking of nonpersons but of American citizens, Union members and voters.
What do you do for a living that is so ultra superior to what Mark Rufflao does? What occupations do you think deserve to speak out? Hedge Fund Managers only?

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
25. How would I go about quashing their voices?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016

Would I go around and put tape on their mouths so that they cannot speak? Of course not. It's just a figure of speech (noun: figure of speech; plural noun: figures of speech a word or phrase used in a non-literal sense for rhetorical or vivid effect.) so relax. I don't really want anyone to be barred from exercising free speech and stating their political opinions.

I'm just playing around with the theme of several film and theatre directors, such as Alfred Hitchcock and Werner Herzog, who have shown contempt towards the actors they work with and several actors who don't take themselves too seriously such as Sean Connery who likes to joke that he's only an actor because he does not really know how to get a real job. Others like to joke that they are always impersonating some great person but never being one themselves.

But rest assured that I believe that free speech is absolute, for actors, hedge fund managers and the rest of us as well.

Oh, and I go to the cinema and the theatre several times a month so I support actors and their talents more than most other people do.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
7. "we put Mr. Romney’s picture on our refrigerators and so on"
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:33 PM
Mar 2016
Well Jonny, so you were wrong about the Mittster. Maybe you are wrong about the Trumpster. Just a thought.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
8. He put Romney's picture on his refrigerator?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:33 PM
Mar 2016

If I didn't already know he lived in Bizzaro World, that's a line that would have me backing away slowly in the direction of the exits.

Considering that the people who are now Trump supporters were the "Anybody But Mitt" voters in the 2012 primaries, no one in their right mind would have that level of enthusiasm for Romney.

But I repeat myself.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Yuck. Just wish all those old '60s "leftists" had been
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

honest enough with themselves, or sometimes just brave enough, to admit that they were actually strongly conservative at heart. Left was the "cool" thing to be if you were young and urban, though. Those cons brave enough to stand up for their beliefs at that age had a hard time of it in a lot of places.

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
11. BS Hortensis.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:42 PM
Mar 2016

Sure, some leftists became conservatives, and some conservatives became liberals. It happens all the time. But in my experience, most 60s leftists are still liberals. This great sympathy for the conservatives who were "brave enough to stand up for their beliefs" is a crock. It didn't take courage to vote for Nixon, who took every state except MA.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. So, I was one of those liberals then and still am. But I'm not talking about people like me.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 05:21 PM
Mar 2016

Liberals like me do not become followers of people like Trump , not now, not then, not ever . Similarly, people like me were never the so-called liberals who became neocons or other types of right-wing reactionaries.

By some accounts, you would think that neocons started out as good liberals, became moderate liberals, became moderate conservatives, moderate as hell, then moving further right became strong conservatives, became hardcore conservatives, and somehow ended up on the far right as nationalist conservatives with a strange vestigial social liberal streak in them. What actually happened was that they were left-wing extremists who made that short migration across the bottom of the horseshoe and became right-wing extremists with a little social liberal streak left. Extremists have much more in common with each other than they do with moderates of any orientation.

Others who mistakenly imaginedvthemselves moderate liberals, of course, grew up and discovered they had much more in common with moderate conservatives, then had children -- which usually makes stronger conservatives out of any conservatives, and became Reagan Republicans like all good authoritarian conservatives of that day did.

I didn't understand it then, but now, looking back, it's as obvious as the old bread falling butter side down.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
12. John Voigt's been damned cray all along. Remember his "open letter to Obama"?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:49 PM
Mar 2016

He wrote some simple minded febrile conspiracy shit--all vague about how teh actual fuck Obama is actually hurting the nation--and Fox put him on the air, you know, to be all fair and balanced against their tons of flaky ass pro-Obama coverage, and wallah he's got his big career comeback going again.

Pathetic feeb. If you read anything by Angelina Jolie about her relationship with her father, you'll know what bullshit it is that this man presumes to lecture America on family values and public morality

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
17. I was expecting this to be about Kelsey Grammer.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016



But I did some Googling and found he endorsed Carson about a month ago.
I guess he still has time to align with one of the current front runners.

 

Catlover827

(191 posts)
19. "Reconstruct" us?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

Interesting verbiage. All these old white farts certainly seem to want us to go back to the days before the civil rights movement.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
28. Calling someone an "old white fart" is strange.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

I hope you didn't refer to Ted Kannedy that way,he was the same age.

Being old and white is not a bad thing----ask Bernie----or me.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
27. In General, The Answer To Any Question....
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:10 PM
Mar 2016

regarding a celebrity endorsement should be "who cares". I mean really, who gives a damn about what some crummy third rate actor thinks about who should be president? But I ask you, who wouldn't want to drive his car?

rsdsharp

(9,137 posts)
30. Voight has done the most amazing 180 over the last 40 years.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

In 1972 I shook his hand (and he has a very weak handshake) at the University of Northern Iowa after he gave a speech in support of George McGovern.

Now he's supporting Trump, for God's sake.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
36. Jon Voight has been a longtime fucking moron.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:10 PM
Mar 2016

Him, James Woods, Patricia Heaton, and Kelsey Grammar are idiots of the highest order.

REP

(21,691 posts)
37. I suspect his character on "Ray Donovan" isn't much of a stretch
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:25 PM
Mar 2016

For those who don't watch it, he's a complete and total scumbag who will screw over his children and grandchildren and anyone else to take care of himself. I suspect the character is based on him, and he's too fucking stupid to notice.

Not a terrible actor, though ... I do want to punch him in the face repeatedly while I watch the show, and he's probably really a pleasant yet stupid old man in real life. Maybe.

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