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malaise

(268,898 posts) Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:08 PM Mar 2016

4-Year-Old Florida Boy Shoots Mother in the Back

http://www.newsweek.com/florida-gun-boy-shoots-mother-435175
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A 4-year-old boy accidentally shot in his mother, an apparently staunch pro-gun advocate, in the back in north Florida on Tuesday, according to local deputies.

Gilt was taken to a hospital in Gainesville, Florida, where she remained in stable condition on Tuesday afternoon. The 4-year-old boy is with family members and the Department of Children and Families has been notified, according to officials.

A Facebook page purporting to belong to Gilt called “Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense” features pro-gun images, including a photograph of a woman pointing a gun with the caption, “The more I learn about my government, the more I love my guns!” and an advertisement for a product called Liberal Tears Gun Oil. According to the Facebook page, it’s for people who want to “support and expand our 2nd Ammendment [sic] rights.”

According to the Associated Press, Gilt said her son started “behaving frantically” in the back of the vehicle before he shot her. Gilt lives in Jacksonville, Florida, according to deputies.

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Ah well - Darwin spared the 2nd Ammendment queen. What a perfect name.

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4-Year-Old Florida Boy Shoots Mother in the Back (Original Post) malaise Mar 2016 OP

The more she learns about the black government, she means. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #1

That kid could become a cop one day. n/t Wilms Mar 2016 #2

Either that or prisoner #whatever malaise Mar 2016 #3

Probably inherited that from his environment. Wilms Mar 2016 #4

It's true malaise Mar 2016 #8

Well thank God people in Florida can have guns, but not medical marijuana. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #5

the kid "picked up a .45-caliber handgun and shot her through the back of the seat." dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #6

Unbelievable to rational folks malaise Mar 2016 #9

I figured it was his first Tickle Me Elmo Gun. Rex Mar 2016 #18

Thank goodness Family Services is now involved. Ilsa Mar 2016 #22

You mentioned the unmentionable gratuitous Mar 2016 #7

boy shoots gun humping nutcase Skittles Mar 2016 #10

Turns out that way malaise Mar 2016 #11

Even that won't change her mind. lindysalsagal Mar 2016 #12

They are all disturbing but this one bothers me malaise Mar 2016 #13

Guess she won't make it to the polling station to vote for Cruz in next week's primary Zorro Mar 2016 #14

She asked for it! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #15

Wait...was the kid armed too? Rex Mar 2016 #16

How did the kid survive shooting a cannon like Jim Beard Mar 2016 #17

"Obama staged this to justify taking our guns!" struggle4progress Mar 2016 #19

Pure negilgence. romanic Mar 2016 #20

Except they don't ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #21

A gun can't save lives out of the owners reach... ileus Mar 2016 #23

Has she been arrested for child endangerment yet? Orrex Mar 2016 #24

Good questions... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #26

Never ask how far we've fallen Orrex Mar 2016 #27

Kicking. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #25

Sounds like the Tree of Liberty just got watered a little bit. 11 Bravo Mar 2016 #28

Wow... deathrind Mar 2016 #29

charge her with child & reckless endangerment & no more gun ownership- up to the Judge for how long. Sunlei Mar 2016 #30

This just in: Ms. Gilt wants to use her story to teach gun safety Fritz Walter Aug 2016 #31

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)

1. The more she learns about the black government, she means.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:10 PM

Mar 2016

Wilms

(26,795 posts)

2. That kid could become a cop one day. n/t

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:16 PM

Mar 2016

malaise

(268,898 posts)

3. Either that or prisoner #whatever

Reply to Wilms (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:23 PM

Mar 2016

Behaving frantically at four and shooting his mother is scary

Wilms

(26,795 posts)

4. Probably inherited that from his environment.

Reply to malaise (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:26 PM

Mar 2016

malaise

(268,898 posts)

8. It's true

Reply to Wilms (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:39 PM

Mar 2016

Children live what they learn

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)

5. Well thank God people in Florida can have guns, but not medical marijuana.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:30 PM

Mar 2016

I mean, weed is DANGEROUS.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)

6. the kid "picked up a .45-caliber handgun and shot her through the back of the seat."

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:32 PM

Mar 2016

So she had a loaded, safety off handgun accessible to a 4 year old in the back seat....

from a karmic point of view, that was a justified shooting.

malaise

(268,898 posts)

9. Unbelievable to rational folks

Reply to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:41 PM

Mar 2016

That she is not

Rex

(65,616 posts)

18. I figured it was his first Tickle Me Elmo Gun.

Reply to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:29 AM

Mar 2016

And all this time she thought the government was out to get her! Turned out to be her own son. That's why you always start them off on BB guns. Why didn't she see what he was going ballistic about?

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)

22. Thank goodness Family Services is now involved.

Reply to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:40 AM

Mar 2016

Maybe it'll save the child's or a sibling's life.

I wonder if the kid's playmates' mothers knew how careless she is?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

7. You mentioned the unmentionable

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:32 PM

Mar 2016

IBTL.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)

10. boy shoots gun humping nutcase

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:00 PM

Mar 2016

malaise

(268,898 posts)

11. Turns out that way

Reply to Skittles (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:02 PM

Mar 2016

Ah well

lindysalsagal

(20,649 posts)

12. Even that won't change her mind.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:11 PM

Mar 2016

Wonder if she's got health insurance? Her gop gun politicians won't want her to have health insurance, but so far none of them have offered to pay her hospital bill. If the bills leave her bankrupt, who will she blame then??

malaise

(268,898 posts)

13. They are all disturbing but this one bothers me

Reply to lindysalsagal (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:37 PM

Mar 2016

She's already damaged that poor child

Zorro

(15,737 posts)

14. Guess she won't make it to the polling station to vote for Cruz in next week's primary

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:53 PM

Mar 2016

I like to look on the bright side.

Logical

(22,457 posts)

15. She asked for it! Nt

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:22 AM

Mar 2016

Rex

(65,616 posts)

16. Wait...was the kid armed too?

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:26 AM

Mar 2016

I mean four is young right?

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)

17. How did the kid survive shooting a cannon like

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:28 AM

Mar 2016

the .45 cal. that is a huge pistol.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)

19. "Obama staged this to justify taking our guns!"

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:06 AM

Mar 2016

romanic

(2,841 posts)

20. Pure negilgence.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:20 AM

Mar 2016

Owning a gun is a great responsibility. If you have it around your kid, put the damned safety on. The most pro-gun person should know better.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)

21. Except they don't

Reply to romanic (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:21 AM

Mar 2016

Gun nuts don't like to be told anything. Because any suggestion of "safety" to them is seen as limiting their riiiiiots and prevents them from shooting scary people faster.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

23. A gun can't save lives out of the owners reach...

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:57 AM

Mar 2016

always a proper holster on your person.

Safety First.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)

24. Has she been arrested for child endangerment yet?

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:13 AM

Mar 2016

Also, after the stupid internet furor that erupted over the boy who was almost struck by a bat during one of the world's most boring events, will those same wise citizens assemble to ridicule this child?

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)

26. Good questions...

Reply to Orrex (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:28 AM

Mar 2016

...and did someone actually knowingly repost this because she liked the headline better? How far have we fallen?

Orrex

(63,199 posts)

27. Never ask how far we've fallen

Reply to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:29 AM

Mar 2016

Because the answer is always "not as we will."

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)

25. Kicking.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:27 AM

Mar 2016

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)

28. Sounds like the Tree of Liberty just got watered a little bit.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:48 AM

Mar 2016

deathrind

(1,786 posts)

29. Wow...

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:53 AM

Mar 2016

"According to the Facebook page, it’s for people who want to “support and expand our 2nd Ammendment rights.”

Expand our 2nd amendment rights?!?!.

What does that mean... Owning RPG's, full auto weapons, C4?...expand how? I read an article yesterday that the NRA is now pushing to get firearm silencers legalized by re-branding them as "hearing protection"...apparently ear plugs/muffs are not sufficient.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)

30. charge her with child & reckless endangerment & no more gun ownership- up to the Judge for how long.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:25 AM

Mar 2016

defined-

Reckless endangerment is a crime consisting of acts that create a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. The accused person isn't required to intend the resulting or potential harm, but must have acted in a way that showed a disregard for the foreseeable consequences of the actions.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)

31. This just in: Ms. Gilt wants to use her story to teach gun safety

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:13 PM

Aug 2016

Jamie Gilt has recovered from her gunshot wound to the point where she posted on Facebook that she's planning to teach a gun safety course. That post has been taken down, but nothing completely disappears from the Internet.

According to the local ABC/NBC affiliate this would "take this negative situation and turn it into a positive one."

Full post:

I guess it's time that I make a statement.

I want to start out by saying thank you to everyone that said a prayer or a kind word. It made more of a difference than you will ever know. I apologize for not replying to each and every one of you, but please know I read all of your messages and I truly appreciate it.

As for all of the negative messages and comments, I read some, but I really can't take to heart something negative coming from someone that does not know me, or what truly happened. I will however say a prayer for all of you. Having so much hate in your heart for someone you don't even know, I can't even imagine how negative the rest of your life must be.

As for what happened, yes, I did make a mistake by placing a handgun under the front seat of my vehicle, and that mistake lead to a horrible accident. However, this is not something that is rare. A very large number of people place a gun under their seat every single day, I can only hope that what happened to me will help to open their eyes to what can happen by doing so.

To answer some of the questions asked...

My son was buckled into a booster seat. He is also 4 years old and perfectly capable of unbuckling himself. Anyone that has ever had a child this age should realize that.

No, the gun was not on the seat beside him, nor did it slide from under the seat onto the floor below him. He dropped a toy and it bounced under the seat. He then unbuckled himself to get down and get it.

The safety was not off. I was not shot with the compact 1911 that was shown in pictures. It was a Springfield XD Mod 2. That particular handgun does not have a thumb safety.

I have never claimed to be an expert. I am just very passionate about keeping our Second Amendment rights and I have conservative political views.

Yes, I do realize what "could have happened", but I also live in the reality that what could have happened didn't happen. I was shot, and I survived, and in the end I will be fine. My son is also fine.

I have chosen to take this very negative and scary experience and make something positive out of it. I have gone through a lot of training since the accident, and am nowhere near finished. I realize that many of the classes offered are seriously lacking and I plan to do my best to improve that. I will be teaching classes as soon as I am ready, and I will continue to share my story in hopes that it will help just one person make a different decision or get a little more training.

I am sure there is more, but that's all I have for now.

Jamie Gilt

"...all (you) have for now"? I guess the fact that you broke the law is something to be ignored.
No legal consequences, Ms. White-Privilege?

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