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joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:31 AM Mar 2016

Regarding Donny Jingles, is there a precedent for a candidate getting violent protests?

I mean, regular, very vocal, very angry people having pure unadulterated hate and anger for said candidate? Trump (AKA Donny Jingles) has been really, really pulling out protest of a different nature than I've seen before or that I know about. We're talking civil disobedience against a candidate. Trump's Secret Service entourage is huge now.

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Regarding Donny Jingles, is there a precedent for a candidate getting violent protests? (Original Post) joshcryer Mar 2016 OP
Oh, hell, yes. There were enormous demonstrations against Lyndon Johnson The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #1
I was trying to find more about this. joshcryer Mar 2016 #2
That's true; the protests were against Johnson as president The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #3
Yeah I mean, an argument the GOP can use. joshcryer Mar 2016 #6
Really? I didn't know that was possible. I do hope he goes third party. He could tblue37 Mar 2016 #13
George Wallace and his racist followers. Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #4
There was this incident with Wallace: The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #5
I went to a wallace rally once in an HS gym, it was a blast! msongs Mar 2016 #7
Sounds like a blast. joshcryer Mar 2016 #10
An interesting thing about Wallace is that as a governor in braddy Mar 2016 #8
I believe Wallace was an opportunist, not necessarily a racist Ex Lurker Mar 2016 #9
I did not know that about Wallace, that's absolutely fascinating. joshcryer Mar 2016 #11
Trump is and always will be a Con-Man opportunist. Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #12
When Wallace lost to John Patterson, the first time he ran for governor,... trof Mar 2016 #15
He was an antisegregationist and a liberal--until it cost him an election. From then on he played tblue37 Mar 2016 #14
I'm puzzled at what you are trying to say, when was he a liberal and not a liberal braddy Mar 2016 #16
He was, as another poster says, an opportunist. His inclinations were fairly liberal, tblue37 Mar 2016 #17
But when? At what stage, for which presidential and Governor races? braddy Mar 2016 #18
See trof's post #15 above. nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #19
Looking into it, he transformed to the good when he became a born again Christian. braddy Mar 2016 #20

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
1. Oh, hell, yes. There were enormous demonstrations against Lyndon Johnson
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:41 AM
Mar 2016

during the '60s because of the Vietnam War. There was a great deal of animosity toward Johnson during 1967 or thereabouts, lots of angry demonstrations and some violence.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
2. I was trying to find more about this.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:54 AM
Mar 2016

But I don't see it as during his candidacy. Johnson didn't seek reelection due to that pressure. But if the protesting escalates it would point to an argument that Trump should bow out.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
3. That's true; the protests were against Johnson as president
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:58 AM
Mar 2016

for what he was doing re: Vietnam. I don't recall these kinds of demonstration against anybody while they were running for president. Nothing is going to make Trump withdraw, though, no matter how violent the demonstrations might get. He likes that.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
6. Yeah I mean, an argument the GOP can use.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:03 AM
Mar 2016

Assuming they have the numbers to broker the convention (if Trump is a few hundred delegates behind, which actually, he looks like he can get the majority).

"Mr Trump you're so divisive that even at your primary rallies you produce so much violence and protesting that we, as a Party, cannot elect you." Rubio, Cruz, Kasich, etc, then all join together to elect Cruz-Kasich in a unity pick.

I fully and completely agree that Trump wouldn't withdraw, he's winning, and even if he gets booted, he'd go third party / independent really quick (contrary to popular belief, he can get on the ballot in most states after the Republican convention).

tblue37

(65,283 posts)
13. Really? I didn't know that was possible. I do hope he goes third party. He could
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

pull a Lieberman and name his party after himself. Tech, he slaps his name on everything else, so why not have a Trump Bigots party?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
5. There was this incident with Wallace:
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:02 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/opinion/readers/2016/03/19/trump-violence-harkens-back-george-wallace/82040852/

But I don't recall the same sort of demonstrations and protests that we are seeing regarding Trump. The guy who shot Wallace didn't do it for political reasons.

msongs

(67,393 posts)
7. I went to a wallace rally once in an HS gym, it was a blast!
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:13 AM
Mar 2016

max crowd, shouting and yelling, he did have a way with words and delivery. loads of excitement. til we whipped out the anti wallace poster and had to leave. outside lots of cops and dogs and helicopters. some major crowd pushing and shoving but no gas or beatings that we saw. all in all an exciting event.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
8. An interesting thing about Wallace is that as a governor in
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:09 AM
Mar 2016

1982, Wallace got up to 93% of the black vote.

Ex Lurker

(3,812 posts)
9. I believe Wallace was an opportunist, not necessarily a racist
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:23 AM
Mar 2016

When segregation was the way to power, he took it. When it became a liability, he easily abandoned it. In his later incarnation he campaigned among black voters and appointed African Americans to positions in Alabama. I doubt that matters to the people who suffered under him, and it doesn't excuse his prior actions, but it is an important distinction, in my view. By the same token, I'm not sure Trump actually believes what he says, or is just using it to get what he wants.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
11. I did not know that about Wallace, that's absolutely fascinating.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:04 AM
Mar 2016

I decided to look this up and came across this op ed by John Lewis: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html

I'm gobsmacked.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Trump is and always will be a Con-Man opportunist.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

The Guy is just a Hustler and there are many who will believe his line of Bull.

trof

(54,256 posts)
15. When Wallace lost to John Patterson, the first time he ran for governor,...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

Many of Patterson's surrogates (if not Patterson himself) ran a very racist campaign.
Wallace, who was pretty much a populist up to then, vowed to his inner circle "I'll never be outni****ed again."

I was there. I lived it.

tblue37

(65,283 posts)
14. He was an antisegregationist and a liberal--until it cost him an election. From then on he played
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

to voter prejudices in order to get elected.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
16. I'm puzzled at what you are trying to say, when was he a liberal and not a liberal
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:22 PM
Mar 2016

and then a liberal again, or what?

tblue37

(65,283 posts)
17. He was, as another poster says, an opportunist. His inclinations were fairly liberal,
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

especially for that time and place, but his principles were, um, "flexible," so he readily abandoned them to promote his own political interests.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
18. But when? At what stage, for which presidential and Governor races?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:35 PM
Mar 2016

Wallace ran for president 3 times and for office a lot of times over almost 40 years, and even ran as an Independent in 1968, when was he being what, at which times?

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
20. Looking into it, he transformed to the good when he became a born again Christian.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:45 PM
Mar 2016

That is when he apologized for his past.

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