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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRegarding Donny Jingles, is there a precedent for a candidate getting violent protests?
I mean, regular, very vocal, very angry people having pure unadulterated hate and anger for said candidate? Trump (AKA Donny Jingles) has been really, really pulling out protest of a different nature than I've seen before or that I know about. We're talking civil disobedience against a candidate. Trump's Secret Service entourage is huge now.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)during the '60s because of the Vietnam War. There was a great deal of animosity toward Johnson during 1967 or thereabouts, lots of angry demonstrations and some violence.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)But I don't see it as during his candidacy. Johnson didn't seek reelection due to that pressure. But if the protesting escalates it would point to an argument that Trump should bow out.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)for what he was doing re: Vietnam. I don't recall these kinds of demonstration against anybody while they were running for president. Nothing is going to make Trump withdraw, though, no matter how violent the demonstrations might get. He likes that.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Assuming they have the numbers to broker the convention (if Trump is a few hundred delegates behind, which actually, he looks like he can get the majority).
"Mr Trump you're so divisive that even at your primary rallies you produce so much violence and protesting that we, as a Party, cannot elect you." Rubio, Cruz, Kasich, etc, then all join together to elect Cruz-Kasich in a unity pick.
I fully and completely agree that Trump wouldn't withdraw, he's winning, and even if he gets booted, he'd go third party / independent really quick (contrary to popular belief, he can get on the ballot in most states after the Republican convention).
tblue37
(65,283 posts)pull a Lieberman and name his party after himself. Tech, he slaps his name on everything else, so why not have a Trump Bigots party?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)But I don't recall the same sort of demonstrations and protests that we are seeing regarding Trump. The guy who shot Wallace didn't do it for political reasons.
msongs
(67,393 posts)max crowd, shouting and yelling, he did have a way with words and delivery. loads of excitement. til we whipped out the anti wallace poster and had to leave. outside lots of cops and dogs and helicopters. some major crowd pushing and shoving but no gas or beatings that we saw. all in all an exciting event.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)1982, Wallace got up to 93% of the black vote.
Ex Lurker
(3,812 posts)When segregation was the way to power, he took it. When it became a liability, he easily abandoned it. In his later incarnation he campaigned among black voters and appointed African Americans to positions in Alabama. I doubt that matters to the people who suffered under him, and it doesn't excuse his prior actions, but it is an important distinction, in my view. By the same token, I'm not sure Trump actually believes what he says, or is just using it to get what he wants.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I decided to look this up and came across this op ed by John Lewis: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html
I'm gobsmacked.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)The Guy is just a Hustler and there are many who will believe his line of Bull.
trof
(54,256 posts)Many of Patterson's surrogates (if not Patterson himself) ran a very racist campaign.
Wallace, who was pretty much a populist up to then, vowed to his inner circle "I'll never be outni****ed again."
I was there. I lived it.
tblue37
(65,283 posts)to voter prejudices in order to get elected.
braddy
(3,585 posts)and then a liberal again, or what?
tblue37
(65,283 posts)especially for that time and place, but his principles were, um, "flexible," so he readily abandoned them to promote his own political interests.
braddy
(3,585 posts)Wallace ran for president 3 times and for office a lot of times over almost 40 years, and even ran as an Independent in 1968, when was he being what, at which times?
tblue37
(65,283 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)That is when he apologized for his past.