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socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts) Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:33 PM Mar 2016

Just a random thought. The November election will probably be...........

between a proto-fascist candidate and a neo-conservative (neo-liberal economics backed by a muscular and aggressive foreign policy). THAT'S what decades of "lesser of two evils" choices have brought us in this country.

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Just a random thought. The November election will probably be........... (Original Post) socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 OP

Bernie Sanders. dchill Mar 2016 #1

You may want to move this to GDP, for primary discussions. It's going to get stopped here. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #2

This has nothing to do with the primaries.......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #4

Ok. But I believe the rules are, during primary season, a post like this must be in GDP. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #6

Clinton/Lieberman! Yawn. Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #3

Although both of those people are neo-conservative............... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #10

Or we get lucky & it's the Democratic Socialist vs the facist! peacebird Mar 2016 #5

Yeah, I think a lot of people are trying to make this post about....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #7

And I refuse to concede because I want to elect the only candidate in the race who can pass peacebird Mar 2016 #23

And I don't WANT you to concede.......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #25

Why are the two worst candidates of both parties the front runners? panader0 Mar 2016 #8

Because that's the way the ruling class wants it I suppose......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #9

Rec malaise Mar 2016 #11

You too malaise........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #12

Ah I see malaise Mar 2016 #13

The most unlikable candidates of both parties are going to be the nominees davidn3600 Mar 2016 #14

Yep. All part of that "lesser of two evils" choice that we've had for decades now........... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #15

Results of your Jury Service krawhitham Mar 2016 #16

Wow, thanks for posting this. I'm not on DU much anymore........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #18

There are Hillary voters here who alert LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #21

JFC this got alerted on? corkhead Mar 2016 #20

Think positive it can only get worse PATRICK Mar 2016 #17

did you say Random Thoughts!? corkhead Mar 2016 #19

Not sure who you're thinking of; my candidate is a mainstream Democrat. brooklynite Mar 2016 #22

Most "mainstream" Democrats nowdays are neo-liberal...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #26

Yea, I don't want Mrs. Clinton or Trump bigwillq Mar 2016 #24

dchill

(38,439 posts)

1. Bernie Sanders.

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:33 PM

Mar 2016

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)

2. You may want to move this to GDP, for primary discussions. It's going to get stopped here.

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:34 PM

Mar 2016

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

4. This has nothing to do with the primaries..........

Reply to BillZBubb (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:38 PM

Mar 2016

This is about the general election and the choices that will be on the ballot, Trump and Clinton.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)

6. Ok. But I believe the rules are, during primary season, a post like this must be in GDP.

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:45 PM

Mar 2016

If I'm wrong your post will stick around.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)

3. Clinton/Lieberman! Yawn.

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:35 PM

Mar 2016

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

10. Although both of those people are neo-conservative...............

Reply to Land of Enchantment (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:55 PM

Mar 2016

neither is proto-fascist.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

5. Or we get lucky & it's the Democratic Socialist vs the facist!

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:40 PM

Mar 2016

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

7. Yeah, I think a lot of people are trying to make this post about.......

Reply to peacebird (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:46 PM

Mar 2016

the primaries. Myself, I've said all along that Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. And nothing has changed my opinion, so I post this about November.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

23. And I refuse to concede because I want to elect the only candidate in the race who can pass

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:19 AM

Mar 2016

A polygraph test.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

25. And I don't WANT you to concede..........

Reply to peacebird (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:17 PM

Mar 2016

because the longer Sanders stays in the race, the more his ideas and more importantly, the more the idea of "socialism" stays in the news cycle and the more people explore the idea. But that still doesn't change to fact that the USA is a bourgeois "democracy" and there's only a certain spectrum of ideas that are even ALLOWED to be a choice. Bernie's ideas are outside of that spectrum, ergo he won't get the chance.

That's what I thought when he entered the race a year ago and that's what I think today. But any revolution, social or political, isn't about giving up. I hope you don't give up even when he officially loses the nomination

panader0

(25,816 posts)

8. Why are the two worst candidates of both parties the front runners?

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:47 PM

Mar 2016

Just a random thought here too. Mind-boggling.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

9. Because that's the way the ruling class wants it I suppose.........

Reply to panader0 (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:48 PM

Mar 2016

But that's what the game has always been about. Offer the crappiest candidates and choose the lesser of the two evils. So the candidates get worse and worse on both sides (and they've ALWAYS been pretty bad on the Republican side-Hell I didn't even like the Republicans in the 1960s) and this is what we have in 2016.

malaise

(268,692 posts)

11. Rec

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:57 PM

Mar 2016

Long time no see

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

12. You too malaise........

Reply to malaise (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:00 PM

Mar 2016

I've been doing most of my posting now on FB. Under my own name too! I'm just been stopping by here for election news.

malaise

(268,692 posts)

13. Ah I see

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:01 PM

Mar 2016

Good to see you

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)

14. The most unlikable candidates of both parties are going to be the nominees

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:06 PM

Mar 2016

Sad.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

15. Yep. All part of that "lesser of two evils" choice that we've had for decades now...........

Reply to davidn3600 (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:10 PM

Mar 2016

Some have always said that the lesser of two evils is still evil. But this choice is what we wind up with- Mussolini or Reagan.

krawhitham

(4,638 posts)

16. Results of your Jury Service

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:16 PM

Mar 2016

Just a random thought. The November election will probably be...........
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027703440

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The OP claims this isn't a not-so-cleverly-disguised primary thread and is about the General Election, where the OP posits that Clinton will be the nominee. In the OP he calls Clinton a neo-con and evil, since, by definition, the "lesser" of two evils is still evil. Under GE rules this would be a hide because it's an attack on the nominee. That is the rule. As a GDP OP in GD this warrants a lock or hide because Primary threads do not belong in GD. That is the rule. Especially since in the OP he is calling a Democratic candidate for the nomination a neo-con and evil.

Either way, the OP violates the rules.

Thank you.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:08 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

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Explanation: The poster is calling it as he sees it. Hillary has been spoken well of by Kagan and Cheney, the most Neo of Neo-cons. I don't see her disavowing an aggressive foreign policy. Nowhere does the OP call Clinton evil. The alerter is reading a lot into this post. Leave it.
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socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)

18. Wow, thanks for posting this. I'm not on DU much anymore........

Reply to krawhitham (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:26 PM

Mar 2016

so I wasn't sure how this post would be received, but I honestly didn't think that it would get an alert. Glad to see I was exonerated by the jury system. Also some good comments from the jurors.

Is this the way it is around here? Instead of arguing the point, you alert? That doesn't sound line fun. I like the argument.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)

21. There are Hillary voters here who alert

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:56 PM

Mar 2016

just to harass Bernie voters. They have no interest in discussing anything.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)

20. JFC this got alerted on?

Reply to krawhitham (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:53 PM

Mar 2016

I am a democrat, which is apparently not the same as being a Democrat™

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)

17. Think positive it can only get worse

Reply to socialist_n_TN (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:20 PM

Mar 2016

unless people try and wins for better. In reality the electorate can only get angrier and prey to the Dark Side or primed for even an actual military coup or trumped up impeachment. We have have had all that attempted before and stolen electoral elections at least a few times. Two actually failed impeachment coups balanced with one legitimate impeachment failure(Nixon forced to resign).

The natural regression of this not getting better is a guarantee that power will be maintained by greater dictatorial elitist means and less actual democratic decision power at all. The Dems with even a moderate conservatism could have their "evil twins" across the aisle and built the popular will on democratic principles. In an Open Election season they decided or were browbeaten easily into, nyeh, don't feel like that much effort. Seems like the apathetic lack of choice begins with political incompetence or corruption.