these horrors aren't going to end anytime soon. Ankara, Maiguduru, now Bruxelles, all in the last week. not to mention the ongoing genocide in Yemen, being conducted with our weapons by the House of Saud.

it will make American Isolationists pull themselves into their shells even further. the more attacks, the more likely Trump or Cruz becomes, the more likely a stupid, indiscriminate response becomes.

some solution must be found to Sunni fanaticism, but what? grant them a country in Syria and Iraq, as ISIL demands?

thanks again, Bush.

Your point?

Everyone on this site condemns ISIS. Any rational thinking person in the world condemns ISIS. So... explain it to me oh wise one. What is it we don't "get"?

Why did they target this city in particular?

The Paris attackers came from there. I suspect the recent arrest of Abdesalam forced their hand, and they launched this attack in lieu of a later planned, more elaborate attack.

As soon as their leader got taken down, I'm sure the rest of the group knew it was only a matter of time before the police caught up with them, so they probably had a contingency plan in place to hit a soft target and kill as many as they could before they got arrested.

terrorist responsible for Paris was found, there are hotbeds of terrorists in this city that I've been hearing about since the Paris attacks. Maybe they know their fellow traveler is speaking to authorities and they know the hammer is going to come down and wanted to get more death in before it does.

one city has more hotbeds of terrorism than another.

were saying they knew that neighborhood the terrorist was found in was filled with terrorist scum and their sympathizers. That there are areas where the police wont go (this wasn't right wing sewer blogs saying this, this was coming from European reporters in Brussels).

I forgot to throw in Union City or Jersey City. I forgot which one of those was also mentioned after 911.

Why I remember: I was born in Jersey City; my sister and her family once lived in Jersey City; I attended grade school in Union City; my mom lived in Paterson at the time; and I lived in Boston at the time.

My friends said I was very clearly the key to the whole thing. (They were only mocking me after I listed my connections to the US cities mentioned in the reports.)

I wasn't looking to contradict anything and don't really see your point at all. So there are many hotbeds of terrorist activity. So what? That allows us to ignore Brussels?

predictability and perhaps also a degree of casualness, especially after a fresh attack. And said reports just may be more inflammatory than they are accurate.

Boston is by no means a hotbed of terrorist activity. AFAIK, it never has been. And if they ever find three to five people who live in Boston who are terrorists, which, as far as I know, hasn't happened since 911, that still won't make Boston home to "hotbeds of terrorist activity." It will make it the former home of three to five terrorists.

the Paris terrorist was found in is nothing like Boston (I hadn't heard Boston being called a hotbed of anything). Can you imagine how the one of the most wanted criminals in the world was able to hide - almost in plain site - in a major European city for so long? That's what happens when you're among those sympathetic to your cause and wont turn you in.

It was said and I remember it for the reasons stated in my prior post, IOW I had good reasons to remember.

Can you imagine how the one of the most wanted criminals in the world was able to hide - almost in plain site - in a major European city for so long?

anonymous as you would think. I can't believe nobody turned him in unless he quite literally never left the house. You'll never get me to believe nobody knew he was there. Getting lost in a rural area makes much more sense.

given me any knowledge of what that is like? ok.

Let's think about that one for a moment. If you were subject to an international manhunt and needed to hide, would you go to your family's neighborhood, where you are likely to be recognized, unless you were confident that the police wouldn't be looking there (which goes to your point about where the police will go) and that no one would turn you in? That tells us all we need to know!

Although from what I saw and read, he didn't really have a lot of options. He chickened out of blowing himself up and I heard that's a real problem with his other jihadi pals so he couldn't go to Syria. The stories about him being seen in gay bars could just as easily been propaganda against him so he wouldn't have anywhere to go. So he went where he felt safe - his own parent's home where he could hide in peace (or so he thought).

In general though, Brussels is much like Paris in that it has a pretty large Muslim minority (was mostly Moroccan/Algerian in the 90s, but I think there are a bunch of newer immigrants from the ME as well) that has become increasingly alienated and radicalized. Even in the 90s, there were trouble spots, where the immigrants and local skinheads would get into street fights on a regular basis, but the increase in tensions, and the greater organization and sophistication of terrorist groups have created a more volatile situation.

and they launched the attack before they were arrested. this has been in the works for a while, but last week accelerated the schedule.

They arrested one who was tied to the Paris attack this week, that is just for starters.

ISIS wants a war with Europe. They want a full scale, World War II type invasion. It is part of their end times prophesy.

really appreciated being welcomed with open arms by these young women.

Don't be so shy and cryptic. Why not spell out your beliefs clearly and proudly. Own them!

Who perpetrated these attacks. But nice attempt to stir up hatred for millions of innocent refugees.

The terrorist arrested last week, was born in Belgium. So yes, i know this for a fact. This is internal, domestic terrorism and has zero to do with refugees.

Virtually all of the attackers from the November incident in Paris were either natives of France or Belgium. And I would bet that once these perpetrators are identified, the same will be true. Don't let your hatred of refugees blind you to the truth.

So your apology is accepted.

that kind of thing doesn't do much here. We need things spelled out for us. We need people to say stuff outright and then be prepared to defend it.

What have you been insinuating, clarice?

the attacks in Brussels? And where do YOU place the blame?

state your positions and claim I need to state mine? LOL!

How do I feel about the attacks in Brussels? Ffs, how does any decent human feel about them? What a highly offensive question! Screw asking me such a highly offensive question and all that asking such a highly offensive implies.

Your posts on this thread make it seem you are a lot more willing to insinuate and imply than you are to state a position.

Also screw pretending I have more of an obligation than you do to assign blame, when you are the one who hopped on the thread with insinuation after insinuation. Same for all disingenuous posting.

first. Why didn't you not answer my question and request, but instead ask me an incredibly offensive question?

Why won't you state your positions, clarice, but only post insinuation after insinuation, first about refugees and then about me? Hmmm?

What is YOUR position on this issue, and how does asking it strike you as offensive?
Are you hesitant about sharing your feelings on terrorism? Why would that be?

insinuations, etc. They were never interesting and they've become tedious and dead boring. Either state your positions clearly, as I asked you hours and many posts ago--well before you asked me to do the same and insulted me-- or talk to yourself, which is pretty much what you've been doing anyway. Until you state your positions, your posts are only static to me.

There has to be a reason why you are trying so hard to wiggle out of the question. What could it be?

Anyway, I gotta run, but, a couple of points.

1. How again did I insult you?
2. Did you just learn the words.."insinuation".... "disingenuous" ?

The reason I ask, is because you've worn them out over the last few posts.
I would suggest and on line thesaurus. Very helpful in expanding the old vocabulary.

Been fun Merrily...game, set, match goes to Clarice.


Note to jury... Please read prior posts before considering mine.

By native born...that slip is showing

Racism is showing. Is that clear now?

Belgians and French citizens have carried these attacks in Europe. It has not been done by two year olds (like Congressman King suggested at one point) who came from Sirya as refugees

By the way, don't even attempt to conflate Ankara with this. The PKK is far older than Daesh

That sort of unwarranted attack is WAY beneath you Nadine.

You are the one implying these were refuges.

Suffice it to say, the risk is there. But it is far smaller, the evidence is clear on this, than what those afraid of refugees are saying.

So far almost all the attackers have been European citizens who happen to be Muslim. Europeans (and Americans to a lesser extent) refuse to ask why this is happening. That would be a good start

Conversation with my mother. She is 86. She is really afraid that refugees will be the source of terror. We as a country (to a lesser extent than Europe) need to realize that our own fears help to radicalize the kids of immigrants.

We see it here in El Cajon. We have a large Chaldean community. They are Christian. But since they came from Iraq and have funny accents, they are facing some of the same prejudice issues our immigrants from Somalia, who are Muslim face.

This is where confronting our own biases will go a long way into preventing this. For the record, from the little the FBI has released, American kids joining Daesh are middle class white kids who end up converting to Islam as part of the process

Because they are treated like shit, and feared even? I don't find it disturbing. I find it quite predictable actually. You have kids, many of them with college degrees, in some cases advanced degrees, that cannot find meaningful employment.

By the way. I predict American youth will get radicaluzed by other ideologies in the not so distant future. We are having MC kids. Sone with advanced degrees, living at home with 100K debt and nothing to do.

In fact, it might be starting.

Hardly racism to point out the common theme in the attacks whether islamic refugee or islamic citizen of the area.
The belgian/french actors alluded to are all adherents of the religion of islam, not the 'race' of islam.
Religous fanatics are simply just that, insane fanatics.

And I will leave it at that.

If you want to maximize damage you put shnarpel in it

Gummy bears? Theyre bombs for crying out loud.