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Source: Reuters
Islamic State claims responsibility for Brussels blasts: ISIS-affiliated news agency
CAIRO
Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the two bomb attacks in Brussels on Tuesday, a news agency affiliated with the group said.
"Islamic State fighters carried out a series of bombings with explosive belts and devices on Tuesday, targeting an airport and a central metro station in the center of the Belgian capital Brussels," AMAQ agency said.
(Reporting by Ali Abdelaty, Writing by Eric Knecht, Editing by Angus MacSwan)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-claim-idUSKCN0WO283
clarice
(5,504 posts)maxsolomon
(33,232 posts)these horrors aren't going to end anytime soon. Ankara, Maiguduru, now Bruxelles, all in the last week. not to mention the ongoing genocide in Yemen, being conducted with our weapons by the House of Saud.
it will make American Isolationists pull themselves into their shells even further. the more attacks, the more likely Trump or Cruz becomes, the more likely a stupid, indiscriminate response becomes.
some solution must be found to Sunni fanaticism, but what? grant them a country in Syria and Iraq, as ISIL demands?
thanks again, Bush.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Your point?
clarice
(5,504 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Everyone on this site condemns ISIS. Any rational thinking person in the world condemns ISIS. So... explain it to me oh wise one. What is it we don't "get"?
clarice
(5,504 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Why did they target this city in particular?
clarice
(5,504 posts)Ex Lurker
(3,811 posts)The Paris attackers came from there. I suspect the recent arrest of Abdesalam forced their hand, and they launched this attack in lieu of a later planned, more elaborate attack.
Takket
(21,526 posts)As soon as their leader got taken down, I'm sure the rest of the group knew it was only a matter of time before the police caught up with them, so they probably had a contingency plan in place to hit a soft target and kill as many as they could before they got arrested.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)terrorist responsible for Paris was found, there are hotbeds of terrorists in this city that I've been hearing about since the Paris attacks. Maybe they know their fellow traveler is speaking to authorities and they know the hammer is going to come down and wanted to get more death in before it does.
merrily
(45,251 posts)one city has more hotbeds of terrorism than another.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)were saying they knew that neighborhood the terrorist was found in was filled with terrorist scum and their sympathizers. That there are areas where the police wont go (this wasn't right wing sewer blogs saying this, this was coming from European reporters in Brussels).
merrily
(45,251 posts)I forgot to throw in Union City or Jersey City. I forgot which one of those was also mentioned after 911.
Why I remember: I was born in Jersey City; my sister and her family once lived in Jersey City; I attended grade school in Union City; my mom lived in Paterson at the time; and I lived in Boston at the time.
My friends said I was very clearly the key to the whole thing. (They were only mocking me after I listed my connections to the US cities mentioned in the reports.)
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I wasn't looking to contradict anything and don't really see your point at all. So there are many hotbeds of terrorist activity. So what? That allows us to ignore Brussels?
merrily
(45,251 posts)predictability and perhaps also a degree of casualness, especially after a fresh attack. And said reports just may be more inflammatory than they are accurate.
Boston is by no means a hotbed of terrorist activity. AFAIK, it never has been. And if they ever find three to five people who live in Boston who are terrorists, which, as far as I know, hasn't happened since 911, that still won't make Boston home to "hotbeds of terrorist activity." It will make it the former home of three to five terrorists.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)the Paris terrorist was found in is nothing like Boston (I hadn't heard Boston being called a hotbed of anything). Can you imagine how the one of the most wanted criminals in the world was able to hide - almost in plain site - in a major European city for so long? That's what happens when you're among those sympathetic to your cause and wont turn you in.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It was said and I remember it for the reasons stated in my prior post, IOW I had good reasons to remember.
Can you imagine how the one of the most wanted criminals in the world was able to hide - almost in plain site - in a major European city for so long?
Yes, quite easily. In a hamlet? Maybe, maybe not. In a busy, major European city among family? Yes I can easily imagine that. I've lived in cities, small or larger all my life, Union City, Manhattan and Boston, and I can easily imagine it. Why can't you?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)anonymous as you would think. I can't believe nobody turned him in unless he quite literally never left the house. You'll never get me to believe nobody knew he was there. Getting lost in a rural area makes much more sense.
merrily
(45,251 posts)given me any knowledge of what that is like? ok.
elljay
(1,178 posts)Let's think about that one for a moment. If you were subject to an international manhunt and needed to hide, would you go to your family's neighborhood, where you are likely to be recognized, unless you were confident that the police wouldn't be looking there (which goes to your point about where the police will go) and that no one would turn you in? That tells us all we need to know!
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Although from what I saw and read, he didn't really have a lot of options. He chickened out of blowing himself up and I heard that's a real problem with his other jihadi pals so he couldn't go to Syria. The stories about him being seen in gay bars could just as easily been propaganda against him so he wouldn't have anywhere to go. So he went where he felt safe - his own parent's home where he could hide in peace (or so he thought).
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)In general though, Brussels is much like Paris in that it has a pretty large Muslim minority (was mostly Moroccan/Algerian in the 90s, but I think there are a bunch of newer immigrants from the ME as well) that has become increasingly alienated and radicalized. Even in the 90s, there were trouble spots, where the immigrants and local skinheads would get into street fights on a regular basis, but the increase in tensions, and the greater organization and sophistication of terrorist groups have created a more volatile situation.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)maxsolomon
(33,232 posts)and they launched the attack before they were arrested. this has been in the works for a while, but last week accelerated the schedule.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)They arrested one who was tied to the Paris attack this week, that is just for starters.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)ISIS wants a war with Europe. They want a full scale, World War II type invasion. It is part of their end times prophesy.
bdwker
(435 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)bdwker
(435 posts)really appreciated being welcomed with open arms by these young women.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Don't be so shy and cryptic. Why not spell out your beliefs clearly and proudly. Own them!
bdwker
(435 posts)Germany In Shock After "Monstrous" Attacks, Rape By 1,000 Men "Of Arab Or North African Origin"
Today, we are just as shocked to read that, even as we expected, the animosities between the two groups have dramatically escalated, and that the mayor of Cologne has summoned police for crisis talks after nearly 100 women reported they were robbed, threatened or sexually molested at the New Year's celebrations outside the city's cathedral by young, mostly drunk, men, police said on Tuesday. One woman said she was raped.
According to BBC, "the scale of the attacks on women at the city's central railway station has shocked Germany." About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-05/germany-shock-after-monstrous-attacks-rape-1000-men-arab-or-north-african-origin
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Who perpetrated these attacks. But nice attempt to stir up hatred for millions of innocent refugees.
clarice
(5,504 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)The terrorist arrested last week, was born in Belgium. So yes, i know this for a fact. This is internal, domestic terrorism and has zero to do with refugees.
JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Virtually all of the attackers from the November incident in Paris were either natives of France or Belgium. And I would bet that once these perpetrators are identified, the same will be true. Don't let your hatred of refugees blind you to the truth.
clarice
(5,504 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)So your apology is accepted.
clarice
(5,504 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)that kind of thing doesn't do much here. We need things spelled out for us. We need people to say stuff outright and then be prepared to defend it.
What have you been insinuating, clarice?
clarice
(5,504 posts)the attacks in Brussels? And where do YOU place the blame?
merrily
(45,251 posts)state your positions and claim I need to state mine? LOL!
How do I feel about the attacks in Brussels? Ffs, how does any decent human feel about them? What a highly offensive question! Screw asking me such a highly offensive question and all that asking such a highly offensive implies.
Your posts on this thread make it seem you are a lot more willing to insinuate and imply than you are to state a position.
Also screw pretending I have more of an obligation than you do to assign blame, when you are the one who hopped on the thread with insinuation after insinuation. Same for all disingenuous posting.
clarice
(5,504 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)first. Why didn't you not answer my question and request, but instead ask me an incredibly offensive question?
Why won't you state your positions, clarice, but only post insinuation after insinuation, first about refugees and then about me? Hmmm?
clarice
(5,504 posts)What is YOUR position on this issue, and how does asking it strike you as offensive?
Are you hesitant about sharing your feelings on terrorism? Why would that be?
merrily
(45,251 posts)insinuations, etc. They were never interesting and they've become tedious and dead boring. Either state your positions clearly, as I asked you hours and many posts ago--well before you asked me to do the same and insulted me-- or talk to yourself, which is pretty much what you've been doing anyway. Until you state your positions, your posts are only static to me.
clarice
(5,504 posts)There has to be a reason why you are trying so hard to wiggle out of the question. What could it be?
Anyway, I gotta run, but, a couple of points.
1. How again did I insult you?
2. Did you just learn the words.."insinuation".... "disingenuous" ?
The reason I ask, is because you've worn them out over the last few posts.
I would suggest and on line thesaurus. Very helpful in expanding the old vocabulary.
Been fun Merrily...game, set, match goes to Clarice.
Note to jury... Please read prior posts before considering mine.
merrily
(45,251 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)By native born...that slip is showing
clarice
(5,504 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Racism is showing. Is that clear now?
Belgians and French citizens have carried these attacks in Europe. It has not been done by two year olds (like Congressman King suggested at one point) who came from Sirya as refugees
By the way, don't even attempt to conflate Ankara with this. The PKK is far older than Daesh
clarice
(5,504 posts)That sort of unwarranted attack is WAY beneath you Nadine.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)You are the one implying these were refuges.
Suffice it to say, the risk is there. But it is far smaller, the evidence is clear on this, than what those afraid of refugees are saying.
So far almost all the attackers have been European citizens who happen to be Muslim. Europeans (and Americans to a lesser extent) refuse to ask why this is happening. That would be a good start
clarice
(5,504 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Conversation with my mother. She is 86. She is really afraid that refugees will be the source of terror. We as a country (to a lesser extent than Europe) need to realize that our own fears help to radicalize the kids of immigrants.
We see it here in El Cajon. We have a large Chaldean community. They are Christian. But since they came from Iraq and have funny accents, they are facing some of the same prejudice issues our immigrants from Somalia, who are Muslim face.
This is where confronting our own biases will go a long way into preventing this. For the record, from the little the FBI has released, American kids joining Daesh are middle class white kids who end up converting to Islam as part of the process
clarice
(5,504 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Because they are treated like shit, and feared even? I don't find it disturbing. I find it quite predictable actually. You have kids, many of them with college degrees, in some cases advanced degrees, that cannot find meaningful employment.
By the way. I predict American youth will get radicaluzed by other ideologies in the not so distant future. We are having MC kids. Sone with advanced degrees, living at home with 100K debt and nothing to do.
In fact, it might be starting.
DustyJoe
(849 posts)Hardly racism to point out the common theme in the attacks whether islamic refugee or islamic citizen of the area.
The belgian/french actors alluded to are all adherents of the religion of islam, not the 'race' of islam.
Religous fanatics are simply just that, insane fanatics.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And I will leave it at that.
elljay
(1,178 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)If you want to maximize damage you put shnarpel in it
elljay
(1,178 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Gummy bears? Theyre bombs for crying out loud.