General Discussion

bulloney

(4,113 posts) Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:20 AM Mar 2016

So, when do we declare Kasich out of the race? No wins for him on Tuesday.

The media have been propping him up and making his popularity more than it is. The only state he's won in the primaries and caucuses is his home state of Ohio. Otherwise, he's been at or near the bottom.

18 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

So, when do we declare Kasich out of the race? No wins for him on Tuesday. (Original Post) bulloney Mar 2016 OP

What are the (R) delegate numbers overall so far, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #1

I find: Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #2

His only hope is for his convention to ignore primary voters and decide that pampango Mar 2016 #3

How would.getting him out of your statehouse be foisting him on to the nation? Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #4

I meant if we got him out of the statehouse by him becoming president that would be pampango Mar 2016 #13

Sure. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #14

Does that mean you think Kasich can surge & together with Cruz Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #6

I doubt Kasich will win more than a handful of pledged delegates. He may, of course, get a lot of pampango Mar 2016 #15

Good. He lost to Cruz, and just wait Hortensis Mar 2016 #5

He'll stay in as long as he has the funding to. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #7

I think he's hanging on hoping for a second ballot convention win. Vinca Mar 2016 #8

Yes--he still hopes to be the 'moderate' choice Maeve Mar 2016 #9

I'm wondering if Jebbie's new endorsement is only a way to reinsert himself back into the mix Vinca Mar 2016 #11

Can the (R) elites just appoint anyone they choose Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #17

I think they can if no one wins on the first ballot. Vinca Mar 2016 #18

Kasich wins 1, and somehow he's a lock for the nomination Orrex Mar 2016 #10

He thinks he will be strong in the northeast and midwest oberliner Mar 2016 #12

As of this morning, none of the Republican candidates are at 100% or more of their delegate target . LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #16

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)

1. What are the (R) delegate numbers overall so far,

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:30 AM

Mar 2016

and how do predicted future numbers trend at this point in time?

What do we think about this?

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)

2. I find:

Reply to Ghost Dog (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:45 AM

Mar 2016

At the Guardian:

... While Trump looks on course to end the campaign with the most delegates of any candidate, he may not have the 1,237 required to win the GOP nomination outright. That would force the billionaire to make the case for his presidency in a contested convention where party elites, many of whom who are hostile to his candidacy, could hold sway.

With Trump’s projected delegate count expected to come down to the wire, results such as his loss to Cruz in Utah could, later down the line, prove pivotal...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/22/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-arizona-utah-idaho-results

pampango

(24,692 posts)

3. His only hope is for his convention to ignore primary voters and decide that

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:48 AM

Mar 2016

he is the best candidate to face Hillary or Bernie.

As a resident of Ohio I am torn. I want to get him out of our statehouse but foisting him on to the nation and the world would be the height of irresponsibility.

I guess we are stuck with him. I just want everyone to know that Ohio Democrats are "taking one for the team".

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)

4. How would.getting him out of your statehouse be foisting him on to the nation?

Reply to pampango (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:05 AM

Mar 2016

I realise your state is pivotal in the GE, but the national level, the Presidency, is a national decision.

And indeed, a Trump win will surely cause nations to tremble.

Thank you for taking one for the team!

pampango

(24,692 posts)

13. I meant if we got him out of the statehouse by him becoming president that would be

Reply to Ghost Dog (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:48 AM

Mar 2016

"foisting him on the nation". That would be going from the frying pan to the fire.

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)

14. Sure.

Reply to pampango (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:54 AM

Mar 2016

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)

6. Does that mean you think Kasich can surge & together with Cruz

Reply to pampango (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:22 AM

Mar 2016

will prevent Trump reaching an overall majority?

How likely is that?

These (R) elites, delegates and conventions, if you don't mind me asking, forgive my ignorance of detail, operate the same way as (D)?

pampango

(24,692 posts)

15. I doubt Kasich will win more than a handful of pledged delegates. He may, of course, get a lot of

Reply to Ghost Dog (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:55 AM

Mar 2016

super delegates at the convention chosen by the party elite.

As far as pledged delegates it will be up to Cruz (and his base of religious fundamentalists and hyper-conservatives) to lower the number of pledged delegates that Trump wins. Kasich won't help much there. Rooting for Cruz to win anything, anywhere, for any reason goes against my grain but, if Donald is not to be their nominee, Cruz will have to hold down Trump's pledged delegate count and Kasich (there may be other establishment candidates who come out of the woodwork if Trump does not lock it up) to deny him the superdelegates. It does not look very likely right now.

I really don't know how the superdelegate process works in their party.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

5. Good. He lost to Cruz, and just wait

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:10 AM

Mar 2016

until those voters take a closer look and find out just what was behind curtain #3....

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)

7. He'll stay in as long as he has the funding to.

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:38 AM

Mar 2016

When whoever is bankrolling his campaign changes their mind, that's when he'll drop out.

Vinca

(50,260 posts)

8. I think he's hanging on hoping for a second ballot convention win.

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:55 AM

Mar 2016

Maeve

(42,279 posts)

9. Yes--he still hopes to be the 'moderate' choice

Reply to Vinca (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:00 AM

Mar 2016

Since Cruz is hated by many who know him and Kasich is only disliked.

Vinca

(50,260 posts)

11. I'm wondering if Jebbie's new endorsement is only a way to reinsert himself back into the mix

Reply to Maeve (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:10 AM

Mar 2016

for that second ballot convention vote. We know the mainstream had counted on Bush to save the day.

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)

17. Can the (R) elites just appoint anyone they choose

Reply to Vinca (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:58 AM

Mar 2016

as candidate, if nobody considered viable and/or acceptable emerges from their primary?

Vinca

(50,260 posts)

18. I think they can if no one wins on the first ballot.

Reply to Ghost Dog (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:36 PM

Mar 2016

It will definitely be a popcorn-worthy convention to watch.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)

10. Kasich wins 1, and somehow he's a lock for the nomination

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:04 AM

Mar 2016

Sanders scores impressive victories and racks up the delegates, so naturally the press dismisses him in favor of an empty stage at a Trump rally.

Classy.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

12. He thinks he will be strong in the northeast and midwest

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:19 AM

Mar 2016

The states that voted yesterday were not exactly his strongholds.

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)

16. As of this morning, none of the Republican candidates are at 100% or more of their delegate target .

Reply to bulloney (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:57 AM

Mar 2016

Not even Trump.

Kasich will probably stay in it until Trump or Cruz spike up to over 100% of their target.

Reply to this discussion