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Stinky The Clown

(67,761 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:57 AM Mar 2016

Terrorist bombs explode and the President basically says "fuck it"???? Really?

Last edited Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:16 PM - Edit history (1)

So a terrorist act occurs. Bombs explode. Innocents are killed. Confusion and fear abound. And where's the fucking president????

Here's an account from the WaPo from shortly after the Marine barracks in Beirut came down:

The Washington Post, 9/4/83 — At this point, [Press Secretary Larry] Speakes was interrupted and asked if Reagan was going back to Washington. He ignored the question and read a statement on the Middle East. Asked again if Reagan was going back to Washington, Speakers answered, “There are no plans for the president to return to Washington earlier than anticipated.”


Oh wait. I'm sorry. That was St. Ronald.

Never mind . . . . .







on edit: there were two Beirut attacks in which our citizens died. I inadvertently confused them. None the less, the point remains valid. People died and St Ronald stayed at his ranch until he was caught out having fun on his horse.
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Terrorist bombs explode and the President basically says "fuck it"???? Really? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 OP
Nice catch... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #1
The Beirut marine barracks bombing was in October oberliner Mar 2016 #2
There were TWO terrorist attacks then ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #10
Right oberliner Mar 2016 #11
Admittedly, a lot of people get confused at this ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #12
Not to mention it was OUR troops that were attacked. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #3
The article in the OP is not in response to the bombing of US marines in Beirut oberliner Mar 2016 #5
OK, weird. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #7
Doesn't matter where Reagan was when "anything" happened. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #53
That's an account regarding the downing of Korean Air 007. Brickbat Mar 2016 #4
Thanks for sharing that oberliner Mar 2016 #6
Hartmann talking about your OP. n/t JackBeck Mar 2016 #8
The lesson of Benghazi: we should have held endless hearings after Beruit Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2016 #9
lesson from 911: the laws of physics should have been examined Fred Drum Mar 2016 #44
Thank you!!! lark Mar 2016 #13
A meme Cosmocat Mar 2016 #14
That only applies to RW presidents, per the media. lark Mar 2016 #18
Be aware that this is not actually true oberliner Mar 2016 #15
Ooops, I recognized the year but didn't remember when the bombings happened. lark Mar 2016 #17
actually read Beirut stunned him and he aborted mission Mary Mac Mar 2016 #19
so he was a failure, many died on his watch Fred Drum Mar 2016 #45
As I remember... gordyfl Mar 2016 #46
interesting Mary Mac Mar 2016 #47
The Rushbots act like Obama should have gone to Brussels bulloney Mar 2016 #25
And what is was doing in Cuba was of historical importance. He wasn't just having fun watching a tblue37 Mar 2016 #41
That's the point that gets ignored with all of this faux outrage at Obama. bulloney Mar 2016 #50
"now, off to the Grenadine menace" MisterP Mar 2016 #16
9/1/83 - Korean flight 007 shot down while Reagan on vacation spedtr90 Mar 2016 #20
From the RW's bloviating today, you'd think they had a double standard... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #21
Something is happening somewhere in the world EVERY SINGLE DAY. A president can't be expected to tblue37 Mar 2016 #42
The horse is saying, "What a dork." DavidDvorkin Mar 2016 #22
ROFL mdbl Mar 2016 #40
Sweet Christ, this has nothing to do with any Beirut attacks. The quote in your OP is from a story Brickbat Mar 2016 #23
Yes. Such rules zentrum Mar 2016 #24
Don't forget Poppy Bush was on vacation in Kennebunkport ... lpbk2713 Mar 2016 #26
They were also shooting into the apartments of Americans who lived around Tianamen Square... Human101948 Mar 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #27
Actually, he was referring to Reagan.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #28
Try reading the post again Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #29
Sheesh...did you even read the OP? SoapBox Mar 2016 #35
He wasn't talking about President Obama. Read again. nilram Mar 2016 #36
That was nearly an entire year after Speakes' first 'Laugh About AIDS' press conference Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #31
She didn't claim "golden years" and she did apologize immediately for misspeaking at Nancy's funeral Hekate Mar 2016 #38
Hillary trying to suck up to conservatives by praising the Reagan's. We know that she is sorry brewens Mar 2016 #52
he also loved his weekends at Camp David Angry Dragon Mar 2016 #32
Another terrorist attack and the President says "fuck it"... KansDem Mar 2016 #33
Oh... SoapBox Mar 2016 #34
Saint Ronnie..... Hekate Mar 2016 #37
Few people know that when the bomb went off in Beirut, the Grenada invasion braddy Mar 2016 #39
This is a conservative talking point attack carried by every so called news org. today. TumbleAndJumble Mar 2016 #43
Great point man of few w Mar 2016 #48
todays republicans are such teeth nashing, sky is falling screamers. Reagan was so good /w horses, Sunlei Mar 2016 #49
He was a horses ass but unlike another famous republican he wasn't scared of them tularetom Mar 2016 #51
BHO's "non-response" to the Belgian bombing would be a non-issue if... CincyDem Mar 2016 #54
+1 Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #55

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
10. There were TWO terrorist attacks then
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

One on the US diplomatic compound, which dwarfs anything that happened in Benghazi, and the marine barracks attack.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Right
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

But the OP specifically says that the article was after the marine barracks bombing, which is impossible.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
12. Admittedly, a lot of people get confused at this
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

But the overall point remains. Ambassadors, members of his own administration, died. And Reagan rode his horse.
So Republican attacks on Obama, trying to say that he should "come home" and do nothing, while engaged in a particularly important diplomatic opening with Cuba, is particularly churlish.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. The article in the OP is not in response to the bombing of US marines in Beirut
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

Since that happened over a month later than the date of the Washington Post article.

Something isn't right here.

It must have been in response to a different incident.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
53. Doesn't matter where Reagan was when "anything" happened.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

He was either himself, an idiot, or suffering from his Alzheimer's disease....

In either case his response to stuff was usually convoluted or just plain wrong.

He did do the right thing with Beirut, pulling them out, but it was a no brainer I guess.

If Obama does something like that, we will NEVER hear the end of it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Thanks for sharing that
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

As I pointed out above, there is no way this could have been in response to the Beirut marine barracks bombing since that happened over a month after the date of the Washington Post article in the OP.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,781 posts)
9. The lesson of Benghazi: we should have held endless hearings after Beruit
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

...and ordered up a Michael Bey movie that implies Reagan was at fault.

lark

(23,061 posts)
13. Thank you!!!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

So freaking tired of all this ginned up BS anti-Obama faux rage. Shrub stayed on vacation while hundreds were being killed in NO and didn't even bother to check on the facts, Raygun stayed on vacation while our troops were killed, crickets from the press. An attack is held in Belgium and 30 people killed and it's a national tragedy that Obama doesn't drop everything and do "something"?

Again, so freaking tired of the total hypocricy of the Repugs and their msm tools.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
14. A meme
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

in search of a rationale ...

Whatever happened to not criticizing the CIC while troops are in the field?

lark

(23,061 posts)
18. That only applies to RW presidents, per the media.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

They have no problem lambasting Obama while we have troops overseas.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Be aware that this is not actually true
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

Reagan did not stay on vacation after the Beirut marine barracks bombing. The newspaper article in the OP is in reference to something else. The date of the article is over a month before the marine barracks bombing occurred.

lark

(23,061 posts)
17. Ooops, I recognized the year but didn't remember when the bombings happened.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

Sorry about that. I still stand by the Bush comments, though. I do remember exactly when that happened, especially because I had just returned from NO 2 months prior.

Mary Mac

(323 posts)
19. actually read Beirut stunned him and he aborted mission
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

Reagan didn't want US servicemen dying on his watch. He was like Nixon in that regard.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
46. As I remember...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:04 AM
Mar 2016

Since Reagan pulled the troops out of Beirut, no American troops have been killed by Hezbollah. I think it might still hold true up to today. There could be a lesson here.

But I guess one can say that since our troops were pulled out of Vietnam, no American troops have been killed by the Vietnamese. Go figure...

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
25. The Rushbots act like Obama should have gone to Brussels
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

What would that have accomplished? Security was already overextended from responding to the attacks and you want a president of another country come in and complicate security issues further?

And then there are the Rushbots who thought Obama should have gone back to DC. What could he have done there that he couldn't do from Cuba?

Obama will draw fake outrage from these people no matter what. It's almost a crime that people who are this ignorant are allowed to vote.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
41. And what is was doing in Cuba was of historical importance. He wasn't just having fun watching a
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

baseball game. He was establishing a friendly rapport with Cuba, its leaders, and its people.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
50. That's the point that gets ignored with all of this faux outrage at Obama.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

They act like he's on vacation when he's in the middle of a historic visit that will resonate for generations.

spedtr90

(719 posts)
20. 9/1/83 - Korean flight 007 shot down while Reagan on vacation
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:33 PM
Mar 2016
Reagan’s address came four days after the attack, in between which he had an aide make a statement about the incident before making a shorter one himself. At the time, Reagan had been on a twenty-five day vacation in California, and resisted returning to Washington, having an aide tell reporters that he had “every facility, every capacity, every capability” to deal with the crisis at his California ranch. The trip was eventually cut short.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/scarborough-admits-boneheaded-claim-reagan-canceled-vacation-after-plane-attack/
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
21. From the RW's bloviating today, you'd think they had a double standard...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027707889

Hang on...here comes "Baseball Gate" or "Mexican-Wave Gate". The RWers are frothing at the mouth this morning, 'cause PBO did not immediately get on Air Force One and return to DC upon learning of the Brussels attack.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
42. Something is happening somewhere in the world EVERY SINGLE DAY. A president can't be expected to
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

always drop what he is doing and rush to the Oval Office when it does, especially when thered is nothing he could do from there anyway.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
23. Sweet Christ, this has nothing to do with any Beirut attacks. The quote in your OP is from a story
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

about the downing of Korean Air Lines Flight 007.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1983/09/04/planes-tragic-odyssey-mysterious/d28343cd-c440-46b6-8575-3c2611ed124a/

At 10:05 a.m. California time, Speakes stepped to the podium at the press center in the Santa Barbara Sheraton.

"I have two statements, the first on the Korean Air Lines incident," he said. "The president is very concerned and deeply disturbed about the loss of life aboard the Korean Air Lines flight overnight. There are no circumstances that can justify the unprecedented attack on an unarmed civilian aircraft. The Soviet Union owes an explanation to the world about how and why this tragedy has occurred. At the direction of the president, the secretary of State is demanding an immediate and full account of this tragic incident from the Soviet Union . . . . He Reagan is being kept abreast and will be kept advised throughout the day as the assessments proceed by officials in Washington."

At this point, Speakes was interrupted and asked if Reagan was going back to Washington. He ignored the question and read a statement on the Middle East. Asked again if Reagan was going back to Washington, Speakes answered, "There are no plans for the president to return to Washington earlier than anticipated."

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
26. Don't forget Poppy Bush was on vacation in Kennebunkport ...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016



when the Tiananmen Square incident took place. A pivotal event in modern Chinese history. He hardly raised his eyebrows when that young man was staring down the barrel of a tank. He only acted after there was a public outcry.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
30. They were also shooting into the apartments of Americans who lived around Tianamen Square...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

Embassy Marines had to rescue American citizens from their homes that the chinese were shooting at to prevent them from watching or photographing from their windows.

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Stinky The Clown

(67,761 posts)
29. Try reading the post again
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

Also, try googling "irony" and "sarcasm"

If you need an explanation of the point, PM me

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
31. That was nearly an entire year after Speakes' first 'Laugh About AIDS' press conference
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

So that's well into the time period Hillary claims were golden years of HIV advocacy and working for the people, we are not allowed to speak the truth about this.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
38. She didn't claim "golden years" and she did apologize immediately for misspeaking at Nancy's funeral
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

But this is Hillary we're talking about, so she's obviously a felonious liar without a heart.

brewens

(13,538 posts)
52. Hillary trying to suck up to conservatives by praising the Reagan's. We know that she is sorry
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

she got caught.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
39. Few people know that when the bomb went off in Beirut, the Grenada invasion
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

was already taking place, the ships and Marines were steaming toward Grenada on ships when the bomb went off, and 47 hours after the bombing, the Army was already parachuted in and engaged in combat at the airport.

 

TumbleAndJumble

(24 posts)
43. This is a conservative talking point attack carried by every so called news org. today.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:38 AM
Mar 2016

*edit: Good to see t his post is an attack on the attack.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
49. todays republicans are such teeth nashing, sky is falling screamers. Reagan was so good /w horses,
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

light hands, soft-eyed happy horse. That equine love was Reagans best quality IMO.

CincyDem

(6,336 posts)
54. BHO's "non-response" to the Belgian bombing would be a non-issue if...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

...he was riding a horse (with a monogramed bridle) while he ignored it,

...he was wearing leather riding boots,

...he was an old white guy republican with dyed hair.

If all that were true, ignoring Brussels = No problem.



Well, maybe not all that sarcastic. There's nothing wrong with Obama (in Rethug eyes) that can't be solved by having him morph into a old cranky white guy with orange hair.
 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
55. +1
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

The entire world is still paying a horrible, painful price for what the reagan administration did. If there is an afterlife, reagan is not in a good place.

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