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(47,434 posts)
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:14 PM Aug 2016

Does Trump HAS to have access to national security papers?

I've heard that, once both parties confirm their nominees, they automatically are briefed.

Why not wait until after the elections? Except for 2000 when the results dragged for a month, the winner will have more than two months before inauguration.

I really think that this year there should be an exception to the rule and not give any information to Trump. OK, don't give any information to Hillary, either. Wait until after the elections.

The other day, on Chris Matthews, I think, there was so much talk about how national security experts expressed concerns about Trump access to the nuclear button, that, I could not help it, the word that came to my mind was: coup. That I was hoping that if - can still happen - Trump is the president, that if he does want to play nukes, that top military would stop him, perhaps even remove him from office.

Then someone told a story from Nixon's last days, when he was supposedly talking to portraits in the White House. That both the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State - do not remember who they were - quietly told the military that if Nixon was going nuclear, that the command would have to be by passed to them.

OK, I had a sigh of relief. I suppose this way would be better than a military coup. Still frightening.

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Does Trump HAS to have access to national security papers? (Original Post) question everything Aug 2016 OP
Only one problem radical noodle Aug 2016 #1
I think they're going to have to be very careful what they tell that oaf Warpy Aug 2016 #2
Good to know. Thanks (nt) question everything Aug 2016 #5
It's up to intelligence professionals what they tell him jberryhill Aug 2016 #3
From what I understand, it is courtesy and tradition (from the Truman era), not the law.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #4
personally, i am dying to see how this all plays out. mopinko Aug 2016 #6

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
2. I think they're going to have to be very careful what they tell that oaf
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 12:09 AM
Aug 2016

because they know he'll start blabbing as soon as he gets out of the room.

And yes, there is already legislation being considered that would take the button away from the president, alone.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. It's up to intelligence professionals what they tell him
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 12:34 AM
Aug 2016

I'm sure they are taking the audience into account.

This is a tradition, not a law.

Truman got a real surprise the day FDR died, but they are simply laying the groundwork to the crash course if, heaven forfend, he is elected.

They're not going to tell him about Roswell, the moon landing hoax and all the really really secret stuff.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
4. From what I understand, it is courtesy and tradition (from the Truman era), not the law....
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 01:03 AM
Aug 2016

...But Obama in his recent news conference said that both would be getting the info (and seemed to think it a legal matter—though, like I said, I've read it's not the law). He did emphasize that both parties must act presidential and not give out classified info. But I sure hope they're not really doing this. I'm worried sick about what Trump is being told and who he is telling. I wouldn't even trust him with the details of a surprise party, let alone info relations to national security.

mopinko

(70,000 posts)
6. personally, i am dying to see how this all plays out.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 12:24 PM
Aug 2016

i just have to believe that they will start by planting something too tasty for him to resist blabbing. then they will smack the shit out of him when he does.
i doubt they will call for the actual penalty of prison time, but they will move quickly to embarrass the shit out of him.

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