Just not about Drumpf.

Not sure that this in anyway an endorsement of sanity.

Religious liberty?????
What a crackpot idea masquerading the real agenda: only my religion gets liberty, and gays go to Hell. And women should stay in the kitchen!

This is no endorsement!

Oh, the drama. But at least he recognizes how dangerous Trump would be.

He will lose his right to discriminate against others based on quasi religious beliefs that he doesn't apply to his own life. Oh the horror of not having legally sanctioned hypocrisy.

God, these people just want to make me hurl with their "religious liberty" bullshit.

standing behind them in the grocery check out line, dealing with them at work. Oh the indignity they feel. Get over it! Too bad, so sad.

Huh?

"Religious Imposition"

That is what they mean

That's what I thought he meant.

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on everyone else. He's afraid he would lose the liberty to take away your liberties.

And he probably means "White male protestant christian privilege" as well.

Scalia did a pretty good job pushing religious imposition and he's Catholic.

Lots of right wing Catholics are brothers in arms with right wing evangelical Protestants.

Catholic institutions have been battling the contraception mandate using the "religious liberty" excuse.

Rightwing Christians think they are victims when they can't force their own narrow religious dictates on others.

doing the right thing in not supporting the worst POTUS candidate in our history has to packaged with histrionic, fantastical bullshit about the democratic candidate ...

Assholes, just fucking assholes.

They're dying to outlaw Islam. Chomping at the bit! It's those SHARIAH laws!

No way are we gonna let those people outlaw homosexuality or put people to death for having extramarital sex;

That's OUR job!

The conservative movement is split over whether it is more important to prevent a Democratic win or preserve the purity of the cause. This person ascribes to the latter.

"Conservatism came in fourth in a two-way race." I am totally stealing that.

As illogical as it sounds, it is really true. Bernie's leftism, Hillary's moderation and whatever Trump is all did better.

You'll lose the legal authority to impose your 11th century superstitions on the rest of us.

F YOU!

It's my damn uterus!!! Get your own!!!!!!!



No. One. Owns. Me.

Bastards. Liars.

The greatest stumbling block humanity has ever created for itself is religion.

which is why we call it the liberty bell

There's nopossible way HRC or Obama can restrict anyone's religious liberty.
So sick of this crap.

interfere with their right to legally discriminate against someone based on race, ethnicity, gender identity, sex, or religious affiliation. What has happened to our Freedoms?!?!

Meet with those of like mind. Don't let anyone tell you what to do.

To you and I, Religious Liberty is the freedom for every person to worship as they see fit.

To a rabid Christian fundamentalist, Religious Liberty is the freedom for every person to believe exactly the same things a Christian Fundamentalist does.

there is no such animal

You're correct to want to kick them out of the Party, Mr. Wilson. You're wrong as shit that it isn't your own fault that they're there....After all, you've been relying on them to help you win elections since JFK was shot.

The only thing you'll lose is an election.

There will be plenty of right wing money to go around for your salaries, etc. for years to come.

What's with this idea that it's Trump who is inflicting deep wounds on the country? Wasn't it your party - the party of Lincoln and personal responsibility - that handed him the Republican nomination? The nomination didn't just fall out of the sky and land in Trump's pocket; no, it was millions and millions of your fellow principled conservatives* who attended caucuses, cheered at rallies, and went into voting booths at primaries all across our country and selected this short-fingered vulgarian to be your party's one and only nominee for the presidency of these here United States. Surely you're aware of this? It was in all the papers, and even on Fox!

So, no, you don't get to whine now about what a complete and total disaster this man is. The entire Republican party has been grooming itself for a candidate like Trump to emerge for 40 years. When he arrived in a field crowded with hopefuls, the party pooh-bahs were exultant about the deep bench and high interest the race for the nomination was going to generate. And look who your party's faithful selected out of all comers: The demented kid with a box of matches standing in a gasoline refinery. Own it.

Trump's all yours, the epitome of what Republicans want in 2016, the culmination of 40 years of Republican government by misgovernance. What did you and your principled friends think was going to be the result of tearing down government, denying its place in society, and dismantling the forms and policies of good governance? Some kind of unrestricted meritocracy where the best and brightest naturally rose to prominence? Grow up, you starry-eyed naif! Liberals have been warning you for decades that without government correctives (promulgated, enforced, and refined by voter mandates), the inequities in the system would become calcified and would worsen over time.

That suited you just fine, because you thought your elevated status deserved to be set in stone, that you had earned every perk and benefit that inured to you simply because you had been born into a privileged slot. Now, it looks like you might not be able to hang onto that high caste, so it's time for a do-over. Not this time. You and every other one of your principled conservative cohort needs to do some public soul-searching (good luck finding it), repentance, penance, and dial back the extreme partisanship, fear-mongering, bigotry, hatred, and divisiveness that have been the Republican product line since the Bicentennial.

You're scared, but that's only because you're seeing the million pound shithammer is finally going to take a swing at you. Welcome to Republican America, where a lot of people have been taking its whacks for decades. It's your turn, Mr. Wilson. And I'm set to enjoy it.

*Me first and fuck you is so a principle!

My sentiments exactly

Well said.

Because the real problem is RW hate radio and TV. They are the true parents of Trump. These establishment Repubs were more than happy to loose the flying monkeys on America, producing 24/7 tirades about how America is going down the drain, how immigrants are destroying America, how we should hate anyone less fortunate than us if they ask for a helping hand. It is no surprise that this propaganda war has put a group of 'true believers' in power in CONgress and has given Trump the repub nomination. Mr. Wilson apparently doesn't watch much Hannity or Listen to much Savage. Because if he did he might find evidence for why things have gone off the rails for the conservatives. Until the R Establishment decides to put the brakes on these modern-day Tokyo Roses, they will continue to go down the drain, causing further damage to the fabric of America.

Personally, I think the evidence suggests that the nutcase are converting the establishment types instead.

...but it needs to be posted and preached everywhere you can post and preach it. It's a work of art.

I am tired of these repukes acting like it is TRUMP who is crapping on their party

... their minds when the polls tighten.

Is start and build up the meme that the establishment is sticking it to trump. The only recourse for trump supporters is to punish the gop up and down the ticket. DON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN DOWN BALLOT.

Vote Trump at the top, and leave everything else blank!

Hey, it's the least we could do.

It's still the same abusive, foul mouthed party that never saw a constructive solution it did not want to screw over for the last 2 decades. Conservatives of any name have NO basis to complain after kow-towing so utterly to the Tea Party extremists, and their obstructionist forbears.

you built it, you bought it. Your dog don't hunt so you tied it to the abyss of white identity politics that killed 20ish million people 60 years ago, and now the abyss is staring into you.

I cannot disagree with him on this. We need to make it crystal clear that demagoguery doesn't play well here. Not yet anyway.
I know all republics become empires eventually, and all empires have emperors. But I would like America to last a little longer with SOME sway in the hands of the citizens

#youbuiltthis
#madeyourbed
#CONservativetears

and is patently unstable — "

But otherwise, he's AWESOME!!!!

Not enough info to narrow it down.

is to vote for Hillary. An overwhelming landslide will put Trumpleforeskin on the trash heap of history along with his minions.
A sweeping victory will put a mandate on new Dem House and Senate to pass long awaited legislation and guarantee a Constitutionally driven Supreme Court for the rest of this century.

They climbed into it with Trump. Now they're whining because he's fucking them.

STOP IT LEITH, YER KILLING ME

Trump needs to be so badly defeated that his nut job supporters' noses bleed.

As to the other stuff . . . . meh. Same ol' same ol'.

If the defeat isn't overwhelming, it could be like that monster in a horror movie that won't die. It will keep coming back to life and zany Tea Party candidates will keep getting elected to office, causing more dysfunction in government.

This must end with absolutely no doubt that people like Trump and his followers will never hold power in our country.

. . . . . the hateful wackadoodles and their hateful philosophy will die. The parties can honestly work together for the GOOD OF THE COUNTRY. Real compromise can again happen. Real debate can happen. Gridlock can die.

Of course, this is likely all fantasy, but I can still dream.

music as I read your comment!

I never know what to expect anymore. We live in very strange times.

He doesn't see that the shit he's peddling (Democrats are "against" religious freedom, that they're not for constitutional principles, that Hillary is the "worst Democratic nominee possible", etc.) is EXACTLY what led to Drumpf winning the nomination.

Sounds like this guy knows his party is lost, but he's swearing that if they use the same map that got them lost, they'll emerge from the wilderness victorious.

What a jerk.

And everything he said about an HRC administration is pure, unvarnished, R-W bullshit.

The political consultant working for Saxby Chambliss behind the ad that implied that Cleland, a veteran who lost his legs and part of an arm in service to this country, was as dangerous to the country as Osama bin Laden?

Trump didn't inflict damage on the country, Mr. "Principled Conservative", you and your ilk did. Trump is merely pushing into the same wound that you have spent your career exploiting, and he's simply out-exploiting you.

But thanks for the proof that for conservatives, "principled" is just another meaningless buzzword.

I really wouldn't be surprised.

This particular Wilson is engaged in some preemptive ass covering.

He's making sure his name is clearly and visibly anti-Trump, because when the Republican establishment once again tries to figure out what happened, when it asks itself when did it become OK for Republicans to attack veterans, that anti-Cleland ad will be a low-hanging fruit.

He's making sure he's one of the early runners on the Republican Olympic Pass-the-Buck team so he doesn't end up being the guy left holding the bag.

You mean you will be unable to beat gays, blacks and Mexicans to death for fun.

you will lose religious FAVORITISM.

Asshat.

The complaint is code for the fact that Trump, somewhere in his hindbrain, knows that he lacks the power, money, skills and the discipline to win this race. When the polls were breaking his way, our republic was perfect; the voters had spoken and he was "doing very, very well." Now that the worm is turned, the evil elites will do anything to stop him.

Justices probably won't be exceptionally liberal, barring a YUUUUGE takeover of Congress! What they consider losing religious liberty will actually be protecting it for all, but not much on that either.

I think we'll see a lot that Wall Street will like, plus the military.

off of the festering open sore called Republican bigotry that appeals to the worst fears and lowest instincts since 1964. It's the bigotry, not Donald Trump that's bringing them down. Demographics suggest they will never win another national election by appealing to the worst among us.

He wasn't complaining when these same Trumpkins were voting for George W. Anti-intellectual, racist, enflamed by a delusion that they are on a crusade, and capable of eating a steady diet of lies.
They were useful to the republican cause and groomed for it by irrational right wing media.

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She'll nominate liberal Supreme Court justices. We'll lose religious liberty. We'll have our Second Amendment freedoms compromised. Chuck Schumer's immigration bill is going to be so bad it will make many of us beg for the Gang of Eight.

I say - so the hell what to all of this. When Republicans stonewalled Merrick Garland, resisted any and all reasonable gun measures, permanently tabled a substantive bi-partisan immigration bill - and all the rest of their "wait and let the people decide" bullshit - they set themselves up for total failure.

When Hillary wins and Democrats regain the Senate, Dems should announce that "the people have decided" and start ram-rodding the whole agenda through.

since fighting the government at every turn is clearly not working out for them. They should take a break and spend some time with their families. Take up a hobby. Let some of the older Repubs retire. And explore governing again when they are ready and more mature.

There is a place in America for a conservative party, but these guys are not conservative and are not doing anything productive.

Trump is not the cause of the GOP's deep deep wounds. You can look in the mirror and see one of the real wound inflicters. That would be you. For a long long time the GOP has pursued depraved policies that valued the acquisition of wealth over helping working people support their families and retire with dignity. You have gutted programs to help the poor, trashed the environment, lied forever about climate change and trickle-down economics, started several stupid unnecessary wars, looked the other way and allowed bigots and racists to be leaders in your party, tried to push your religious beliefs on everybody else, let corporate lobbyists write your legislation, suppressed the vote, denied that women should control their own bodies. The GOP is depraved, morally corrupt. Just look at the lies that you've written above! Clinton will not take away your religious liberties. What a stupid thing to write. Personally I hope the racist hate-mongering GOP goes down in flames at the poll, never to recover EVER!

welcome to DU, Multichromatic

He may express himself with a little more composure but is hardly worth our audience.