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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn your opinion, who will lead the Republican Party after the election?
In my opinion, they will be fragmented into about three separate groups. The establishment group, if he wins his election, will be led by Paul Ryan. Of course, there is no guarantee that he will be in Congress in the next term.
The "conservative" group will be led by Ted Cruz. They will attempt to claim the mantle of Reagan. They will claim to speak for the evangelicals and the "pro-lifers".
The third group will be the leftovers from the Trump campaign. They will refuse to join the old Republican Party of Ryan or Cruz. In effect, they will be a splintered Party, weakened to the point of total ineffectiveness.
It will not be an easy task to put them back together. They will have to build a new Party that appeals to a more broad coalition if they are to survive, in my opinion.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Currently, that seems an unlikely outcome. But Johnson loves the rebellious right.
kentuck
(111,082 posts)I hope he doesn't win.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Johnson one of the Koch's favorite senators.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)Some of the big financiers will come to the factual conclusion that this Republican Party cannot win a general election. They will forge a new party that will basically be the war hawk and trickle down party, without the hate. It will be moderate on issues like abortion and gay rights and more empathetic towards minorities.
kentuck
(111,082 posts)They will have to change their present persona if they are going to compete as a national Party.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)He tapped into millions. They're not going away. Fact is, plenty of Americans want good jobs back and believe there needs to be some controls on immigration.
Many of these people only wish there was someone more articulate and less embarrassing than Donald Trump speaking for them. Someone will come along and run with a "kinder, gentler" Trumpism.
They will be the base of a new "Independent" Party?
But doubtful they will be part of an establishment Republican Party.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)The traditional GOP candidates believed that if they kept talking about guns, gays, and abortion, the working-class rubes wouldn't notice their jobs getting shipped overseas and millions of low-skilled workers imported to take the few remaining.
Trump came along, largely kept his yap shut about social issues, and won these millions of voters over by promising to bring their jobs back and stop the importation of immigrant workers who depressed wages. It was a winning message.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I'm not sure that they'll get very far.
I still remember when people on AM radio around here in the 80's used to take a more direct approach. They would argue against social programs and "big government" without the hate speech and deflections. I don't think it worked very well, so those people were replaced by outright liars and fear-mongers.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)But for whatever remains of their medieval rump of a party, Ryan will probably lead it. Yes, the most vaunted repub policy wonk who, in reality, hasn't had an intelligent thought or spoken an intelligent sentence since Phyllis Schlafly went to prom, will most likely lead them back from the wilderness.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)without college degrees who just want jobs.
Abandoned by all, they're the reason for Trump in the first place.
kentuck
(111,082 posts)But they are a big part of Trump's constituency and will probably be "independents" after the election. They will not automatically gravitate to the Republican Party. Many of them may actually be what was formerly called "Reagan Democrats"?
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)because they believed their well-paying, blue collar jobs were safe.
Today, it's hard to care about stopping gay marriage or abortion if you don't have a job (if you ever really cared that much about stopping gay marriage and abortion in the first place).
Honestly, I don't think these blue collar guys as a group are as socially conservative as the GOP establishment takes them for. This is 2016. A lot of people have gay siblings, friends, children and coworkers. They may have visited a Planned Parenthood with their girlfriend once or twice in their youth as well.
The GOP promises, "vote for us and we'll ban abortion and end gay marriage" and are now shocked to hear, "we don't really give a shit about abortion or gay marriage, just give us our jobs back!" from white guys wearing Trump t-shirts.
They don't know what to do.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Very Funny!
louis c
(8,652 posts)brooklynite
(94,513 posts)Not even the most optimistic landslide will dislodge Paul Ryan. He's in a "SAFE REPUBLICAN" district. The only possibility is that the Tea Party members deny him the Speakership for being disloyal to Trump.