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http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/08/hillary-clinton-one-americas-most-honest-politiciansMother Jones
Kevin Drum
Aug 1, 2016
Jim Geraghty says that Hillary Clinton is a serial liar:
"We know she lies when shes cornered. Running from snipers in the Balkans, being dead broke upon leaving the White House, all my grandparents immigrated to America, her tale of trying to join the Marines, her claim she never received or sent any material that was classified on her private e-mail system, her claim to have started criticizing the Iraq War before Barack Obama did she lies, and she lies, and she lies."
Seriously, Jim? I'll give you the Balkans thing. That was a lie. But the others aren't. The Clintons were in debt when they left the White House. Hillary's great-grandparents were immigrantsshe was off by a generation. Nobody knows if she ever tried to join the Marines, but there's no evidence she didn't. She didn't knowingly send classified material on her private email system, and it's hardly fair to judge her by the fact that some of her emails were retroactively classified. And her statement about the Iraq War was strained (she was talking about criticism after Obama joined the Senate), but it's typical political exaggeration, not a lie.
Look: all politicians lie sometimes. That includes Hillary Clinton. But as the chart on the right shows, Hillary is one of the most honest politicians on the national stage. Here's a similar conclusion from the New York Times.
Donald J. Trump - Percent Mostly False and worse - 76% Percent True or Mostly True - 7%
Hillary Clinton v - Percent Mostly False and worse - 28% Percent True or Mostly True - 51%
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The meme that Hillary is dishonest or can't be trusted is invented, sexist, right-wing horseshit. It needs to be fought. If we don't fight back against it with the facts, the thugs will continue to spread this manure.
In the immortal words of John Oliver, "Don't bring feelings to a fucking fact fight." The facts show that Hillary is one of the most, if not the most, honest politicians out there. Arm yourself with facts and let people know about them. The future of our country is at stake.
spanone
(135,635 posts)StrictlyRockers
(3,854 posts)and to try to turn them into weaknesses.
They swift-boated John Kerry, a war hero. The say President Obama is inarticulate and needs to use a teleprompter, etc., etc., etc.
Hence, Hillary is dishonest. She is actually very honest. She knows she has to be especially so because her every utterance will be scrutinized by these rat bastards who try to turn her words against her. They've been going after her for 40 years and they have nothing so they are forced to spread this bullshit meme and concoct conspiracy theories.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)Not a pants-on-fire..
MADem
(135,425 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,903 posts)...all over social media!
StrictlyRockers
(3,854 posts)They can try to attack the source, but Politifact is an independent, non-partisan source.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Listed here. They don't use the same standards for Hillary and Trump.
Jon Fogerty
(45 posts)to see Michele Bachmann with the most POF lies, NOT! Although Drumpf will catch up to her in 3, 2, 1....
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TomCADem
(17,378 posts)...is considered honest because he is so blatant about his racism.
andym
(5,441 posts)The GOP Benghazi investigations were successful in their goal to play upon HRC's close "association" with Bill and the 90's ethics investigations. And the months-long FBI email server investigation was used to amplify and legitimatize the earlier attacks. No matter that neither investigation found anything greater than carelessness (the email server). It will take time to undo the damage. Showing how truthful Hillary Clinton has been in her campaigning is a good place to start.
riversedge
(69,721 posts)Martin Eden
(12,802 posts)stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)jack_krass
(1,009 posts)StrictlyRockers
(3,854 posts)And if you wear a hat, you'll cover it up.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)No doubt, that it is really pretty is the sounded depth of many minds.
TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)He doesn't need to lie....
Just saying...
StrictlyRockers
(3,854 posts)I feel like he is one of the most honest and consistent politicians I have ever seen. He has been speaking about the same issues and staying on message for 30+ years.
Rex
(65,616 posts)It is curious how Jeb? got on that list and so far down on it.