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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:58 PM Aug 2016

Flood Destroys Home Of Hate Group Leader Who Claims God Sends Natural Disasters To Punish Gays

http://www.thegailygrind.com/2016/08/17/flood-destroys-home-of-hate-group-leader-who-claims-god-sends-natural-disasters-to-punish-gays/

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, an organization labeled an anti-LGBT hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, was left homeless by the destructive flooding that has ravaged southern Louisiana this week, killing 11 people and destroying an estimated 40,000 homes.

Perkins, who has claimed that God uses natural disasters such as hurricanes and flooding to punish people for sinning (in particular homosexuals and their supporters), had his own home destroyed by the Lord Almighty. The hate group leader says he was forced to escape his destroyed home by canoe, reports JMG.

Perkins called into his own radio show to talk about the disaster of “biblical proportions” that, according to Perkins, will force his family to live in a camper for the six months it will take to rebuild his home.

Perkins claims that God sent this deadly flood not to punish the gays but rather “as an incredible, encouraging spiritual exercise to take you to the next level in your walk with an almighty and gracious God who does all things well.” In fact, he urges Christians to rejoice that God considers them “worthy of suffering for his sake.”


So it turns out Row v. Wade was all about how the little hatemonger was gonna get out of there.
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Flood Destroys Home Of Hate Group Leader Who Claims God Sends Natural Disasters To Punish Gays (Original Post) KamaAina Aug 2016 OP
Huh. 2naSalit Aug 2016 #1
It sure sounds like somebody is not true to themselves. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #40
God got it right. rickford66 Aug 2016 #2
Not funny. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #9
The odds are that he's also gay. rickford66 Aug 2016 #12
What odds? Percentage-wise, he is likely straight. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #35
OK rickford66 Aug 2016 #38
Incorrect on multiple counts, Aegis. Nitram Aug 2016 #63
Let's see some stats. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #67
Well, if you're going to homosplain to me, prove away the multiple examples Nitram Aug 2016 #73
As expected, no facts just platitudes. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author Roy Rolling Aug 2016 #25
Hypocrite Scarsdale Aug 2016 #61
Wonder what the excuse is this time, we don't need haters like this one. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #3
He did not pray hard enough? GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #21
I am thinking the hate was his downfall. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #42
They spin it as "you are lucky to be chosen by god to suffer and get stronger". :eyes: . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #26
Right but only when it's YOUR house. Volaris Aug 2016 #39
I'm sorry his family has to go through this. lpbk2713 Aug 2016 #4
You said it for me, and better than I could, my dear lpbk2713! Thank you! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2016 #8
you are both far more charitable than I am. his family stands by him, so I figure they are niyad Aug 2016 #55
Thanks, Jesus SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #5
You beat me to it! You can't hide from karma NWCorona Aug 2016 #6
Yup it is a chameleon whistler162 Aug 2016 #20
Who listens to these stupid hate radio shows ??? Person 2713 Aug 2016 #7
You would be amazed. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2016 #10
My uncle turned rabid Rush-bot after his wife left him and he took a job driving long haul flygal Aug 2016 #13
Trump voters Skittles Aug 2016 #11
My mother-in-law, for one n/t VWolf Aug 2016 #30
Schadenfreude (from wiki) Botany Aug 2016 #14
This man has stated, as fact, natural disasters are cntrygrl Aug 2016 #15
Sounds almost word-for-word like jihadi rhetoric lapislzi Aug 2016 #16
Karma beat his dogma Odin2005 Aug 2016 #17
The Rude Pundit's comments on this should be great. Paladin Aug 2016 #18
If you can, Post a link here if you catch Rude on this creep's saga Person 2713 Aug 2016 #19
when god closes a door he opens a window...too bad the water keeps coming in...... dembotoz Aug 2016 #22
He didn't pray hard enough? muntrv Aug 2016 #23
Ah...poetic justice is the best justice. MineralMan Aug 2016 #24
I don't usually laugh at a flooding disaster, Chemisse Aug 2016 #27
Seems like he has a point rock Aug 2016 #28
So let me get this one right....when you're gay and get hit with a natural disaster Grammy23 Aug 2016 #29
Row vs wade armed_and_liberal Aug 2016 #31
Christianity is a form of Stokholm syndrome? Who knew? jmowreader Aug 2016 #32
*raises hand* Maynar Aug 2016 #59
I think some Depeche Mode is called for right now jmowreader Aug 2016 #60
Wow haven't heard that song in decades Cal Carpenter Aug 2016 #71
One word explanation - lark Aug 2016 #33
Meteorologist Nelson Muntz says: KamaAina Aug 2016 #34
If only guys like this actually read the Bible they profess to teach from. bluesbassman Aug 2016 #36
God destroyed his house, so Tony Perkins is gay? tclambert Aug 2016 #37
How many rentboys did he bring with him in the canoe? keithbvadu2 Aug 2016 #41
Yes, because he is a homophobe he MUST be gay! Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #43
Um...no skepticscott Aug 2016 #44
Um..no..again. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #45
Sheesh, get a grip skepticscott Aug 2016 #48
Yes, I know. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #50
Aegis, no one here is making a homo joke. Nitram Aug 2016 #64
Yes, it is a "homo" joke. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #66
Sounds like you don't need to listen to anybody. Nitram Aug 2016 #72
Sounds like your describing yourself. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #74
You must be reading too much into it. keithbvadu2 Aug 2016 #46
Yeah, that's it. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #51
You don't believe a Christian pastor's explanation? keithbvadu2 Aug 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #58
Another religious insane fruitcake opens his mouth. . B Calm Aug 2016 #47
So... Tony Perkins is actually Gay? Hmmm... FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #49
ahhhh, schadenfreude. niyad Aug 2016 #52
by the way, you freak, your "god" is one sick, perverted little psychopath, and so are you. niyad Aug 2016 #53
"Listen, do this, you'll save water...." DFW Aug 2016 #54
Sounds like he needs to make up his mind over if God sends floods to punish gays or if God just send cstanleytech Aug 2016 #56
From the Department of Poetic Justice. Nitram Aug 2016 #62
Sounds like this "Pastor" doesn't know his Bible very well Dem_in_Nebr. Aug 2016 #65
But of course the nations taxpayers will be funding his loses. Many of them gay, those he hates. rladdi Aug 2016 #68
God told me it was the shellfish. He ate the shellfish. Midnight Writer Aug 2016 #69
"worthy of suffering for his sake" Mendocino Aug 2016 #70
So god answered Tony's prayers? Bravo Panich52 Aug 2016 #76

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
9. Not funny.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:11 AM
Aug 2016

Nor clever.

Homophobes can be straight, most actually are. Also, by implying he is gay, you are affirming this bigot's idea that G-d punishes gay men.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
12. The odds are that he's also gay.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 06:59 AM
Aug 2016

I'm criticizing the religious right's idea of God punishing gays. Either the guy is gay or God doesn't punish gays. Either way the guy has a problem.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
35. What odds? Percentage-wise, he is likely straight.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:25 PM
Aug 2016

LGBT make up about 10% of the population; that's all of us together. So, no, the odds are he is a HETEROSEXUAL who is also a rabid HOMOPHOBE.

Now, I want you to re-read your statement, and think about it...really think about it:

Either the guy is gay or God doesn't punish gays. Either way the guy has a problem.


I am sure it was unintentional, but the verbiage seems to suggest "being gay" is a problem. Also, just because he believes G-d uses weather to punish gays, as indicated by his remarks, he seems to have a caveat.

It is offensive to suggest male homophobes are "secretly gay" as it is, IMO, doubly homophobic in that it releases heterosexuals, especially men, of being homophobes, and that homophobia is "really a gay problem." A very small percentage of homophobes are acting out of sublimated homosexual desires, most are nothing more than run-of-the-mill bigots!

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
38. OK
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:51 PM
Aug 2016

If the guy is gay, his problem is condemning others and not living his own life. Obviously being gay is not a problem. If he isn't gay, then his religious teachings are flat out wrong and is a different problem.

Nitram

(22,781 posts)
63. Incorrect on multiple counts, Aegis.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:59 AM
Aug 2016

First of all, conservatives in denial about being gay are frequently the most aggressive homophobes. Secondly, the guys problem is not that he's gay, it's that he's in denial about being gay. You can get off your high horse now and stop trying to score points.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
67. Let's see some stats.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:57 PM
Aug 2016

If you are going to straightsplain to me, then you show me some hardcore stats, you know, FACTS. How do YOU know he is in denial about being gay? Where is your PROOF?

You like to 'splain things to gay people, then you should have the facts to back it up!

Nitram

(22,781 posts)
73. Well, if you're going to homosplain to me, prove away the multiple examples
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 10:12 PM
Aug 2016

of Republicans who have vote for anti-gay legislation who have turned out to be gay. Get a grip.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
75. As expected, no facts just platitudes.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:07 AM
Aug 2016

You were the one who claimed I had my facts wrong, so the "burden of proof" is on you, not [I/]me. So, couldn't find any facts? Let's see your proof that your claim "Incorrect on multiple counts, Aegis." can be substantiated. All you have done is say I am wrong, and proved nothing. My claim that there are more heterosexuals, is factually correct, therefore, the conclusion Perkins has a greater chance of being straight bears truth. You have proof to show otherwise? Produce it.

Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #9)

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
61. Hypocrite
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:19 AM
Aug 2016

He is probably rich from donations to his vile hate. Where is his concern for the many, many people who lost everything and are left with nothing?

niyad

(113,232 posts)
55. you are both far more charitable than I am. his family stands by him, so I figure they are
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:23 PM
Aug 2016

pretty much the same.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. You would be amazed.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:32 AM
Aug 2016

Mainly people alone at the time......housewives at home, elderly, lots of people as they drive. Poorly educated, mostly.
In many rural areas of the South, radio stations are few and far, as I know all too well, to the point I don't even use the car radio around here.
But get near the cities and radio works well.

And the listners do send that money in. It's amazing.

flygal

(3,231 posts)
13. My uncle turned rabid Rush-bot after his wife left him and he took a job driving long haul
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:06 AM
Aug 2016

They get people down and turn them to hate.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
14. Schadenfreude (from wiki)
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:57 AM
Aug 2016

Schadenfreude (/ˈʃɑːdənfrɔɪdᵊ/; German: [ˈʃaːdn̩ˌfʁɔɪdə] ( listen); lit. 'harm-joy') is pleasure derived from the misfortune of others. Borrowed from German into English and several other languages, it is a feeling of joy that comes from seeing or hearing about another person's troubles or failures. It is similar in meaning to the English term "to gloat" (which has no noun equivalent), meaning to express pleasure or self-satisfaction at one's own success or at another's failure.[1]

cntrygrl

(356 posts)
15. This man has stated, as fact, natural disasters are
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:01 AM
Aug 2016

the wrath of God to punish those of us who are gay. He specifically attacks the LBGTQ community.

So when his house is flooded out and sane people throw his words in his face, it's considered wrong? Are we displaying hate as he does so many times?

This man prayed for people's lives to be destroyed and has now suffered the most appropriate form of karma, therefore I feel like rejoicing and thanking the Creator for doling out his punishment in a manner I feel is appropriate.

Besides his preaching of hate towards the LGBTQ communities, it's sinful, IMHO, that he and others like him aren't shut down for hate speech. They incite physical and emotional harm to others they deem sinners.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
16. Sounds almost word-for-word like jihadi rhetoric
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:12 AM
Aug 2016
https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-do-jihadists-really-want

Listen to the narrative of the Finnish woman who left Finland (Finland!) to join "the caliphate." The level of brainwashing almost stretches credibility to its outer limits.

Every tragedy (insert god name here) sends you is a gift.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
18. The Rude Pundit's comments on this should be great.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:19 AM
Aug 2016

Not only is Rude from Louisiana, he's been monitoring Perkins' hateful "Christian" rants for years.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
22. when god closes a door he opens a window...too bad the water keeps coming in......
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:47 AM
Aug 2016

sorry kept hearing the phrase years ago from well meaning christians as my wife continued towards death from leukemia......

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
24. Ah...poetic justice is the best justice.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:20 AM
Aug 2016

That Christian deity is quite the jokester, isn't it, Tony?

Happy camping, dude!

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
27. I don't usually laugh at a flooding disaster,
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:28 AM
Aug 2016

But when I do, it's because somebody is being deeply hypocritical.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
29. So let me get this one right....when you're gay and get hit with a natural disaster
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:27 AM
Aug 2016

That destroys all of your worldly possessions and takes many lives, it is punishment meted out by a very angry god. When you're a "man or woman serving a mighty god " who have the same natural disaster you should take that as a sign that your so-called loving god is simply testing you and that it will build your strength of character. You were CHOSEN for this journey. Indeed, you should consider it an honor.

I honestly don't know why their heads don't spin like a whirling dervish.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
32. Christianity is a form of Stokholm syndrome? Who knew?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:04 PM
Aug 2016

"Jesus wiped my home off the map and we'll be living in a van down by the river for six months. Thank you Jesus! I love you Jesus! You destroying my house and everything in it makes me love you even more!"

Can anyone else see how fucking sick this is?

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
71. Wow haven't heard that song in decades
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:40 PM
Aug 2016

Seeing those kids in the audience... Forgot how powerful that stuff was. I saw them the following summer (1990). I would have been 15. Damn.

Anyway, thanks for posting this very appropriate video.

bluesbassman

(19,369 posts)
36. If only guys like this actually read the Bible they profess to teach from.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:29 PM
Aug 2016
Matthew: 7-1
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.


Tony might have saved himself and his unfortunate family some rough living in the camper if he bothered to embrace the words of his Savior.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
37. God destroyed his house, so Tony Perkins is gay?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:47 PM
Aug 2016

Well, now, maybe he committed some other sin, like failing to embody the Christian virtues of mercy and forgiveness. Maybe he forgot about "Love your neighbor" and "Love your enemy." Christianity can be hard.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
44. Um...no
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:17 PM
Aug 2016

By his own words, since gawd punished him with a natural disaster, he must be gay.

Perfectly logical, if you're a nut bag fundy.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
45. Um..no..again.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:20 PM
Aug 2016

Taking him at his word is just as fucking stupid as pretending his claim makes him gay because his home was destroyed. The POS even gave a caveat as to why his and other homes were destroyed. I am sick of every HETERO homophobe getting labeled a "secret gay". I don't give a shit what he has said in the past, it is stupid to say G-d destroyed homes because of gays, and it is just a fucking stupid to maintain male homophobes are really homos!

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
48. Sheesh, get a grip
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:32 PM
Aug 2016

No one is REALLY taking him at his word. You do get that, don't you? If not, your irony meter needs fixing.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
50. Yes, I know.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:02 PM
Aug 2016

What you and others don't seem to understand is the pathetic "he's a homo" joke is tired and homophobic.

Nitram

(22,781 posts)
64. Aegis, no one here is making a homo joke.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:02 AM
Aug 2016

We are pointing out that gay conservatives who are in denial about being gay and condemn all gays to hell, are vile hypocrites. I'll second the "get a grip" suggestion.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
66. Yes, it is a "homo" joke.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

The hypocrisy in this case is not closeted homosexuality, it is his shifting morals. He is not gay. There are no "allegations" from the past. So, claiming the gay jokes are about hypocrisy is incorrect, and nothing but a cover for so-called progressives to make jokes at the expense of gays.

I don't need heterosexuals to straightsplain to me what is and isn't homophobic.

Nitram

(22,781 posts)
72. Sounds like you don't need to listen to anybody.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 10:10 PM
Aug 2016

Good luck with that dude. Hate to break it to you, but you don 't have a monopoly on the truth.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
74. Sounds like your describing yourself.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:03 AM
Aug 2016

Truth is based in facts and reality, not stereotypes and tropes.

Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #57)

niyad

(113,232 posts)
52. ahhhh, schadenfreude.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:20 PM
Aug 2016

oh, by the way, you grifting, woman-hating piece of filth, NOBODY believes that you and your family will be living in a camper, unless you mean this one:

DFW

(54,335 posts)
54. "Listen, do this, you'll save water...."
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:22 PM
Aug 2016

"Let it rain until you drive that little rat from his home and make him live in humiliation in a trailer for a few months. Then listen to him squirm and contort while trying to make it suddenly sound like you did him a favor."

"RIGHT!"

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
56. Sounds like he needs to make up his mind over if God sends floods to punish gays or if God just send
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:57 PM
Aug 2016

floods because God is a dick.

Dem_in_Nebr.

(300 posts)
65. Sounds like this "Pastor" doesn't know his Bible very well
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:59 AM
Aug 2016

In there, it says that

&quot God) causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous" Matthew 5:45

As a person who tries to practice God's love to all, I am saddened by the willful ignorance of many who call themselves Christians.

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