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G_j

(40,366 posts) Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:48 PM Aug 2016

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Can I say Ken Salazar is bad news?

And as an advocate for wildlife, and environmental concerns, I can't stand this man!

http://m.democracynow.org/stories/16530

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Can I say Ken Salazar is bad news? (Original Post) G_j Aug 2016 OP

Exactly. His appointment at Interior was one of the early "Oops! Didn't really mean that campaign villager Aug 2016 #1

and here we go again.. nt G_j Aug 2016 #2

He's on the transition team, he's not making policy. SharonClark Aug 2016 #3

thankfully G_j Aug 2016 #5

but won't he be helping pick those that will be making policy ... Raine Aug 2016 #17

the epitome of controlling the transition. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2016 #25

Sure. KMOD Aug 2016 #4

I'm not exactly sure. G_j Aug 2016 #6

I don't see it as a factor at all. KMOD Aug 2016 #8

Say it all you like, doesn't mean shit. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #7

Awe.. G_j Aug 2016 #10

that sounds a wee bit sinister. More like a threat than anything decent. cali Aug 2016 #20

So now having a memory is sinister? MohRokTah Aug 2016 #21

It's the context cali Aug 2016 #22

. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #24

This is why we let professional do their jobs GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #9

+1,000 AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #11

+1001 Hekate Aug 2016 #16

Professional is a broad term, G_j Aug 2016 #19

Isn't "broad" a bit sexist, especially when discussing the oldest profession? ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2016 #26

Refreshingly sensible and accepting. :) Hortensis Aug 2016 #23

Thank You. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #28

I live in CO, have seen him speak at different events several times, Laffy Kat Aug 2016 #12

Another Colorado native, here. madamesilverspurs Aug 2016 #13

Two grads of my alma mater making the news today. AllyCat Aug 2016 #14

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #15

You just did... ReRe Aug 2016 #18

Yup. You can say it, but I don't much care. It's a transition team, not a cabinet position. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #27

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #29

apologies to morons librechik Aug 2016 #30

villager

(26,001 posts)

1. Exactly. His appointment at Interior was one of the early "Oops! Didn't really mean that campaign

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:53 PM

Aug 2016

...stuff!" moments of the Obama administration.

G_j

(40,366 posts)

2. and here we go again.. nt

Reply to villager (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:54 PM

Aug 2016

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)

3. He's on the transition team, he's not making policy.

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:57 PM

Aug 2016

G_j

(40,366 posts)

5. thankfully

Reply to SharonClark (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:59 PM

Aug 2016

though he is still bad news.

Raine

(30,540 posts)

17. but won't he be helping pick those that will be making policy ...

Reply to SharonClark (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:00 AM

Aug 2016

not happy about him at all.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)

25. the epitome of controlling the transition.

Reply to Raine (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:33 PM

Aug 2016

I still groan at W's transition team's effort to find a VP.

KMOD

(7,906 posts)

4. Sure.

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:57 PM

Aug 2016

But how does that factor into his being on the transition team?

G_j

(40,366 posts)

6. I'm not exactly sure.

Reply to KMOD (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:01 AM

Aug 2016

are you?

KMOD

(7,906 posts)

8. I don't see it as a factor at all.

Reply to G_j (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:10 AM

Aug 2016

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)

7. Say it all you like, doesn't mean shit.

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:07 AM

Aug 2016

I'll remember you said it, though.

G_j

(40,366 posts)

10. Awe..

Reply to MohRokTah (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:22 AM

Aug 2016

I'm touched!

cali

(114,904 posts)

20. that sounds a wee bit sinister. More like a threat than anything decent.

Reply to MohRokTah (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:25 AM

Aug 2016

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)

21. So now having a memory is sinister?

Reply to cali (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:52 AM

Aug 2016

cali

(114,904 posts)

22. It's the context

Reply to MohRokTah (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:57 AM

Aug 2016

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)

24. .

Reply to cali (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:30 PM

Aug 2016

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)

9. This is why we let professional do their jobs

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:13 AM

Aug 2016

The transition team is critical for turning a successful campaign into an successful Presidency. And has nothing to do with policy, everything to do with the nitty-gritty of politics. The leader of this team has to know how things get done and who is really a power and who is not and then communicate to the entire incoming team about the way things work. And he or she also has to be ruthless enough to rein in ideologues who have great vision but no clue about politics.

Choosing anyone who is not a total pragmatic is a recipe for disaster.

This is a good move and will set the new administration up for success.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)

11. +1,000

Reply to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:40 AM

Aug 2016

Hekate

(90,549 posts)

16. +1001

Reply to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 02:57 AM

Aug 2016

G_j

(40,366 posts)

19. Professional is a broad term,

Reply to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:23 AM

Aug 2016

professional lobbyist for sure. There are less ethically challenged people who know the ropes, IMO.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)

26. Isn't "broad" a bit sexist, especially when discussing the oldest profession?

Reply to G_j (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:50 PM

Aug 2016

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

23. Refreshingly sensible and accepting. :)

Reply to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:10 PM

Aug 2016

Plus, speaking for myself, what kind of person would I be to vote for someone I didn't trust to fill a transition team slot competently? I do trust her to be sensible and competent, and if she's satisfied with him I am too. (She'd be so relieved to know that, of course.)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,221 posts)

28. Thank You.

Reply to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:35 PM

Aug 2016

Laffy Kat

(16,372 posts)

12. I live in CO, have seen him speak at different events several times,

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:41 AM

Aug 2016

I can't stand him either.

madamesilverspurs

(15,798 posts)

13. Another Colorado native, here.

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:53 AM

Aug 2016

I'm just glad he isn't making policy.

And I'm really really REALLY hoping that Mark Udall will be appointed to Interior.

/

AllyCat

(16,139 posts)

14. Two grads of my alma mater making the news today.

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:57 AM

Aug 2016

And I'm not thrilled about either.

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ReRe

(10,597 posts)

18. You just did...

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:08 AM

Aug 2016

... and I agree.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,221 posts)

27. Yup. You can say it, but I don't much care. It's a transition team, not a cabinet position.

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:33 PM

Aug 2016

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librechik

(30,673 posts)

30. apologies to morons

Reply to G_j (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:47 PM

Aug 2016

wish Salazar would go away, outreach be damned

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