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Last edited Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)
Im A Doctor. Heres What I Find Most Concerning About Trumps Medical Letter
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Dr. Bornstein is affiliated with Lennox Hill, but he is not part of their Division of Gastroenterology. There also isnt a Department of Medicine there is a Division of General Internal Medicine and Dr. Bornstein isnt a member of that either. Having admitting privileges and being a division member are not the same thing. Many hospitals allow doctors to have admitting privileges and not be department or division members. And whats with this made up Section?
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What are astonishingly excellent laboratory test results? Im a doctor, and I dont know. Is it astonishing that a 70-year-old man has normal results? All his results are exactly average which is good but wait, I thought his tests are all positive?
And while were at it, doctors just dont say laboratory test results that sounds like something on a soap opera.
5. Doctors dont say test score we just give the results.
The conventional way to reference PSA would be PSA 0.81 ng/ml (normal < 4 ng/ml). A test score is something that happens at the DMV.
6. How did Dr. Bornstein test Donald Trumps strength and stamina?
Did he have him bench press in the office? Do a treadmill test? Doctors just dont typically write vague, quasi-medical things in letters. Ive also never heard of a stamina test.
An internist might test muscle strength as part of a physical exam, but the results are graded 0-5, and 5 is not secret code for extraordinary. Its code for normal.
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Its a terrible letter.
Did Dr. Bornstein write it? If so he should be embarrassed. Its medically illiterate. If he doesnt know his website doesnt work or if that hes not in the Division of Gastroenterology, thats an issue.
Did Trump write it? Hell never tell. It certainly reads like a letter written by someone with close to no knowledge of Dr. Bornsteins practice or medicine.
All I can say is, typos and weird links and mentions of non-existent sections of gastroenterology and nonsensical medical information aside, the letter provides essentially no medical information.
read:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-gunter/im-a-doctor-heres-concerning-trumps-medical-letter_b_11565838.html
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)I asked my doctor if I was a healthy as Trump, and he said pretty much the same thing this doctor said.
Sanity Claws
(21,841 posts)Did you test positive for everything, just like Trump's doctor said he did?
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)My doctor worked at Cleveland Clinic for several years before going back to where he grew up. His wife, an only child, had elderly parents with failing health. My doctor despises Trump.
Sanity Claws
(21,841 posts)When you said "this doctor" I thought you meant Trump's doctor. I know understand that you were referring to the doctor mentioned in the OP.
Sounds like your doctor is fine.
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(52,118 posts)Siwsan
(26,250 posts)It had to do with his lack of board certification, and the plan I worked for required physicians to be board certified or eligible, and if they weren't we required 3 letters of recommendation from his peers, or one from his department head. Simple enough.
So this physician sent me a letter of recommendation that stated Dr. So and So had a great personality, bright smile, played a really brilliant game of golf and his patients loved him. And that he was highly recommended to continue as a contracted physician. The letter was signed by the doctor, himself.
I thought it was hilarious, but wrote him back to point out that autobiographical letters of recommendation were not listed among the options.
Doctors can be weird. They should probably never write their own letters.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)I went to one of those spinal laser institutes. I did my research & learned that only 2 of the doctors were licensed in the state I was in, also none of the doctors had admitting privileges to any hospitals.
I also had issues with the admitting clerk (basically she was inputting information from my filled out forms). She said I had to be allergic to iodine since I was allergic to lodine. She also told me I was not a type 2 diabetic because I took insulin and only type 1 diabetics took insulin.
Needless to say I walked out.
Siwsan
(26,250 posts)During my years as a physician credentialing coordinator, I ran across many really bad situations. I found one "physician" who was practicing under a false name - he wasn't licensed at all. I got suspicious when I noticed that EVERY document I requested had his name listed differently. Found another guy - a board certified plastic surgeon - who had been kicked out of Canada, and was now doing some very bad surgeries, here. (I had to review everyone's malpractice history.)
In the last year, before I retired, I discovered two of our pediatricians had been arrested and charged with child molesting. I won't even go into how many chiropractors have sexual assault/battery charges filed against them.
I truly believe that information contained in the National Practitioners Data Bank information should be available to the public. People should know what a physician's history is, before they put their lives in his hands.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It bears all the hallmarks of Trump rhetoric.
cali
(114,904 posts)rocktivity
(44,572 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)
Or her speechwriter.
rocktivity
Augiedog
(2,543 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,228 posts)I'm not a doctor. I don't know much about the medical field but, when I heard what his "doctor" wrote I knew it was BOLOGNA. I'm glad doctors are outing it but for most of us it isn't necessary.
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)And tell the world not to trust her.
I suggest Hillary make an issue out of this letter to show Trump can't even be trusted with the most basic tasks.
TygrBright
(20,755 posts)patsimp
(915 posts)this letter.
bucolic_frolic
(43,057 posts)Or has the psychiatrist been admitted yet?
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)that guy looks exactly like the kind of guy that would write a letter like that, or at least sign it without reading it.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Or at least Trump had some administrative flunky write it. Donald Trump - big time pathological liar.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)tclambert
(11,084 posts)If Donald Trump tried to fake a doctor's note, it would be the best, just the greatest note ever. Astonishingly excellent. It might have a few typos, maybe a Freudian slip that indicates whose concern he is really concerned with. But, hey, all the results would be positive. Positive's good, right? So every disease, like STDs, that the doctor tested for would give positive results. And maybe with the weight loss, you exaggerate a little, right? Am I right? You know. Everybody does that. Whatever. And people would like to hear their candidate is the best, the healthiest ever. You can't prove Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt were healthier. And Franklin Roosevelt, who many people say was a great president, okay, let's say it, he was a cripple. A cripple! We don't care about political correctness, do we?
But it's ridiculous to challenge a document like this. It's a letter, signed by a doctor. Nobody's gonna fake that. How would you fake it? It's got official letterhead and a signature. People don't fake stuff like that. What are they gonna claim next? That it came from Kenya?