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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:05 PM Aug 2016

Clint Eastwood for Trump: I don’t get it.

Last edited Thu Aug 18, 2016, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Yeah, I know he talked to an empty chair at the 2012 GOP convention. I've always thought that his politics sucked, but that he was, nontheless a great film maker. Yet his continuing backing of Trump just doesn't fit with his own expressed values.

For a lot of people, especially those of a liberal bent, it recently got a whole lot harder to be a Clint Eastwood fan. Here was one of the greats of the American cinema, a goddamn cultural icon, sounding off like a regular Trumpeteer, labeling millennials the “pussy generation,” decrying a culture of “political correctness” and, to top it all off, admitting he’s likely to vote Donald J in the fall. Those of us hoping Eastwood would see sense on this occasion, as longtime Republican Dennis Hopper did when leaving the GOP behind to vote Obama in 2008, were left sadly disappointed.

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… when it comes to equal rights, Eastwood’s views can be summed up by a comment he made back in 2004: “You have to believe in total equality. People should be able to be what they want to be and do what they want — as long as they’re not harming people.”

Perhaps even more surprising, the non-religious Eastwood doesn’t believe in a god but does believe in meditation, because “I’ve always liked the Buddhist religion.” Like any good Buddhist, Eastwood’s also strongly for environmental conservation and animal rights, … If Dirty Harry and Eastwood were to ever meet, Detective Callahan would probably be calling this guy the pussy.

It’s difficult to believe the Eastwood that has opposed every American war since Korea and thinks assault weapons should be banned is the same person now voting for the gung-ho, Second Amendment fetishizing Trump.


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/08/clint-eastwood-is-more-than-another-stupid-bigotit.html

Eastwood's expressed beliefs, and his backing of Trump, are totally out of synch. I don't get it. He's not stupid and he's not a bigot. Why is he still backing Trump? Go figure.
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Clint Eastwood for Trump: I don’t get it. (Original Post) Cyrano Aug 2016 OP
The prase that comes to mind in cases like these is... JHB Aug 2016 #1
I think for some, it comes down to how they have defined themselvs. Like some hardcore REPUB family hlthe2b Aug 2016 #2
old, rightwing white guy assholes are Trump's base. nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #3
Angry Old White Guy - fits Eastwood perfectly liberal N proud Aug 2016 #4
Eastwood isn't "angry." Read the link. Cyrano Aug 2016 #6
Self-deleted. Fix to link in OP Cyrano Aug 2016 #5
He talks to empty chairs. frogmarch Aug 2016 #7
If Robin Williams had done that with the George W election, Cyrano Aug 2016 #8
Williams would talk to a chair as a joke = funny LanternWaste Aug 2016 #9
Tom Selleck, Chuck Norris, Gary Sinise, Clint Eastwood milestogo Aug 2016 #10
He believes America is being held back by "wimpy" politics Johonny Aug 2016 #11
He backs Trump, and yet he made "Letters From Iwo Jima." Paladin Aug 2016 #12
This is a guy who lobbied to weaken ADA law loyalsister Aug 2016 #13
He also made Cyrano Aug 2016 #14
He played a character who killed a disabled person loyalsister Aug 2016 #16
Warped, frustrated old man..... Uben Aug 2016 #15
How can Mel GIBSON make totally great "Apocalypto" & be himself? Some people have a closed UTUSN Aug 2016 #17
He's channeling his "Man with no name" character from the spaghetti westerns.... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #18
he is a right wing whore Skittles Aug 2016 #19
I think you had a typo on your link. Xyzse Aug 2016 #20
My puzzlement is how Cyrano Aug 2016 #21
I agree with you. His film with streep "Bridges of madison county" is a beautiful film and very CTyankee Aug 2016 #23
multiple wives & baby mommas. pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #22

hlthe2b

(102,122 posts)
2. I think for some, it comes down to how they have defined themselvs. Like some hardcore REPUB family
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:09 PM
Aug 2016

members, they came from a tradition of Republicans and just can't "quit" the label, even though I think most are horrified at Trump. That was the way with all my uncles and my father and quite a few of my cousins since, though I'd bet my last dollar that most of the "aunts" secretly voted Dem all those decades. I certainly have no doubt my Mom did.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
8. If Robin Williams had done that with the George W election,
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:03 PM
Aug 2016

we would have thought it was funny.

I can understand a Republican backing Romney. But voting for a crazed sewer dweller like Trump? I really just don't get it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Williams would talk to a chair as a joke = funny
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:06 PM
Aug 2016

Williams would talk to a chair as a joke = funny. Eastwood talks to a chair as a chastisement does not equal funny.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
10. Tom Selleck, Chuck Norris, Gary Sinise, Clint Eastwood
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:08 PM
Aug 2016

I can't watch any of these hardcore Republicans any more.

Johonny

(20,818 posts)
11. He believes America is being held back by "wimpy" politics
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:11 PM
Aug 2016

That's what the chair thing was all about in his own words. That Obama is not a forceful leader and that political correctness has paralyzed the process. The reality is that people like Eastwood voting time and time again for tea party politicians have paralyzed the process. These people can't work with each other, let alone to start working with Obama. Eastwood is the cause of his own misery and he can't face blaming himself...hence Trump. Trump will somehow through force of will get the GOP in congress to work together. We know how that's working out by how many didn't come to the convention this year and those that did like Ted Cruz receiving him less than classy. Eastwood is an intellectual coward that is crippling America because he refuses to accept his own responsibility for the system he created. * him.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
13. This is a guy who lobbied to weaken ADA law
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:16 PM
Aug 2016

then made a movie about killing a disabled woman. He's spiteful and hateful and callous. Those are exactly the qualities one should expect from a Trump supporter.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
14. He also made
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:20 PM
Aug 2016

Bridges of Madison County. I'm not judging him by his movies. I'm judging him by his own words in the article above, which just don't match up with his politics.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
16. He played a character who killed a disabled person
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

AFTER he was personally offended by the fact that we want equal access where possible. It's a very, very big difference.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
15. Warped, frustrated old man.....
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

...Clint's better days are behind him. Why he decided to inject himself into politics is anyone's guess. I'll admit I like him as an actor, but as a human being? Not so much. But, we all have opinions, and we are entitled to them.

UTUSN

(70,645 posts)
17. How can Mel GIBSON make totally great "Apocalypto" & be himself? Some people have a closed
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:24 PM
Aug 2016

circle of capacity, are of a certain era, stay in the area of what was successful for them, are perfect in their petrified state. They reach the limit of themselves and can't pass that limit - and probably don't want to.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
20. I think you had a typo on your link.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:43 PM
Aug 2016
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/08/clint-eastwood-is-more-than-another-stupid-bigotit.html

I can't vote for the Republican, however, there are some items in his policies that can sway Libertarians and Independents. There are even items in his speeches that make some sort of sense. Not enough in the grand scheme of things, but a broken clock can be right twice a day.

That's the thing with supporting or endorsing a candidate, one has to choose which you think is going to work out for the best. One can vote for someone without liking them, or believing in them, or trusting them or some such, as long as they think they are the one who would provide the most net positive or the least net negative. It is different dependent on the person as people weigh things differently. I tend to respect the decisions of those who took a while in deciding, as it came out of much soul searching. It does not matter what they do decide, I am sure it was a hard decision, so I am not one to judge.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
21. My puzzlement is how
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 06:14 PM
Aug 2016

someone like Eastwood, who has produced and directed some excellent films, (written the music scores for some), and can work with Meryl Streep, Morgan Freeman, Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, and so many others on the Hollywood A list, can be so fucked up in his political thinking.

Then again, Bobby Fischer was perhaps the greatest chess genius who ever lived, and was a total moron on anything and everything that didn't have to do with chess.

Perhaps Eastwood is an extremely talented film maker and musician, and a total imbecile on everything else. Could be.

Thanks for the corrected link. I'll try to fix it in my OP.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
23. I agree with you. His film with streep "Bridges of madison county" is a beautiful film and very
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:02 PM
Aug 2016

sensitive. His sensitivity in that film didn't strike me as that of an imbecile. What happened? Streep totally admired and loved him from madison county so i don't know what the hell made him go off the loop. Certainly knowing Meryl Streep as closely as he did had to have SOME effect on him...

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