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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:31 PM Aug 2016

Who couldn't see this coming from a mile away?

Last edited Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)

WASHINGTON ― Texas experienced a sudden and dramatic spike in pregnancy-related deaths in 2011, the same year the state slashed funding for Planned Parenthood and women’s health programs, according to a study in the September issue of Obstetrics and Gynecology.

After a modest increase in maternal mortality in Texas between 2000 and 2010, the rate of pregnancy-related deaths nearly doubled in 2011 and 2012 ― something researchers described as “puzzling” and out of sync with data from the other 49 states. Seventy-two women in Texas died from complications of pregnancy and childbirth in 2010, and that number jumped to 148 in 2012.

While the study does not suggest a clear cause for Texas’ alarming data, the rise in pregnancy-related deaths coincided with lawmakers slashing family planning funds by 66 percent in the state budget in 2011. The cuts forced 82 family planning clinics to close, one-third of which were Planned Parenthood clinics, and left Texas’ women’s health program able to serve less than half as many women as it had previously served. Low-income women in particular had less access to affordable birth control and thus had more babies, according to a report by the Los Angeles Times.

The new data on pregnancy-related deaths is too dramatic to be explained only by the budget cuts to women’s health, the study notes.

“In the absence of war, natural disaster, or severe economic upheaval, the doubling of a mortality rate within a two year period in a state with almost 400,000 annual births seems unlikely,” researchers write.

Texas’ Department of Health said a task force is looking into the issue but has not come up with an explanation or solution.

“We’re aware of the numbers and want to see a decrease in this trend,” spokeswoman Carrie Williams told the Dallas Morning News, “and that’s why the task force is closely reviewing these cases and will make recommendations.”

Edited to add link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/womens-health-texas_us_57b5d949e4b034dc73260bf3

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Who couldn't see this coming from a mile away? (Original Post) leftynyc Aug 2016 OP
And it's not like we should expect the fetus worshippers to care either MrScorpio Aug 2016 #1
actually, some of them probably are happy that there were more deaths of "bad" women spooky3 Aug 2016 #22
It's god's will awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #29
Uh-HUH!!! calimary Aug 2016 #2
As governor Mike Pence nixed the idea of a needle exchange program in Indiana, and then tblue37 Aug 2016 #9
Wrong order. Indydem Aug 2016 #11
Yes, but it was only a 30-day program, limited to one county. Then, when the rest of the tblue37 Aug 2016 #23
I've participated in and supported needle exchange programs. hunter Aug 2016 #21
Re-read that part pls...... lastlib Aug 2016 #34
I'm not sure this makes sense. Chemisse Aug 2016 #3
Or if they included access to birth control csziggy Aug 2016 #14
Good points. Chemisse Aug 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #4
'puzzling' my ass. spanone Aug 2016 #5
Another librul conspiracy! gratuitous Aug 2016 #6
Mmmm. Beowulf42 Aug 2016 #32
If there is ever a new psychiatric disorder to be entered into the DSM Warpy Aug 2016 #7
K&R jpak Aug 2016 #8
Legislative Murder. byronius Aug 2016 #10
Wow! Nailed it. Euphoria Aug 2016 #38
LINK, please... n/t TygrBright Aug 2016 #12
Sorry, could have sworn I included it leftynyc Aug 2016 #17
It's okay. Blastocysts are WAY more sacred than actual women. n/t TygrBright Aug 2016 #13
Can you supply a link? Thanks in advance! Raine1967 Aug 2016 #16
Just added to OP - apologies (n/t) leftynyc Aug 2016 #18
it's all good, leftynyc. Raine1967 Aug 2016 #24
Pro-deathers ananda Aug 2016 #19
Murderers. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2016 #33
Link here BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #20
So what do the crazies do? They give $1.65 million to Carol Everett's group. hamsterjill Aug 2016 #25
In the absence of war BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #26
You are exactly right! Everything you said is the truth of the way it really is! montana_hazeleyes Aug 2016 #37
Yet another colossal Republican FAIL RapSoDee Aug 2016 #27
the human costs of the Right-to-Life hypocrisy Bill USA Aug 2016 #28
Trump thinking: Were they Mexican? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #30
Stupid ass Texas Egnever Aug 2016 #31
"puzzling"? BobTheSubgenius Aug 2016 #35
Knowledge is power. raven mad Aug 2016 #36
They were Obama supporters anyhow sellitman Aug 2016 #39
You know that's not true leftynyc Aug 2016 #41
Sick fucks, placing their stupid ideology ahead of the people's healtth. Nitram Aug 2016 #40

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
1. And it's not like we should expect the fetus worshippers to care either
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:35 PM
Aug 2016

Further proof that putting fundies in charge only invites unnecessary harm and hardship.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
2. Uh-HUH!!!
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:36 PM
Aug 2016

I note, with some sardonic amusement, this part:

"Texas’ Department of Health said a task force is looking into the issue but has not come up with an explanation or solution."

OF COURSE they're not going to come up with an explanation or a solution. They're not gonna want to admit to getting this SO damn wrong, nor will they somehow become willing to stop persecuting Planned Parenthood.

SHEESH - the statistics are a whole freakin' lot more than "puzzling." Good Grief...

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
9. As governor Mike Pence nixed the idea of a needle exchange program in Indiana, and then
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:54 PM
Aug 2016

was soooooo surprised when they ended up with an HIV epidemic (and an associatec Hep C epidemic) among IV drug addicts.

His response to the epidemic caused by his stupidity was absurd: He okayed just a 30-day needle exchange program, limited to the single county identified as the epidemic's epicenter!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/03/26/indiana-to-declare-health-emergency-for-hiv-outbreak/70478492/

Eventually he was forced to sign a more expansive (but still ridiculously limited) program when the epidemic spread, but counties had to prove they were already in trouble with the diseases spreading:

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/05/pence-signs-bill-facilitate-needle-exchange-programs/26946043/

IOW, rather than prevent the epidemic of deadly diseases, they had to prove they were already swamped by new cases!

Originally, though, Pence said he opposed a statewide needle exchange program. The resulting compromise requires local governments to prove to the Indiana State Department of Health that a hepatitis C or HIV epidemic is occurring. Hepatitis C is also spread through shared needles and typically is an early indicator of a problem.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
23. Yes, but it was only a 30-day program, limited to one county. Then, when the rest of the
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:00 PM
Aug 2016

state had problems, Pence wouldn't okay a general program without conditions. The compromise that he finally signed required counties to prove they already had an epidemic before they would be allowed to implement a needle exchange program.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
21. I've participated in and supported needle exchange programs.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:55 PM
Aug 2016

It would be even better if there were safe places for addicts to live where they could get safe drugs and the help they needed to quit the drugs they were addicted to. It also would be better for addicts who couldn't quit, for whatever reason.

Opiates are simply not as harmful as all the shit that goes along with any outlawed street drug.

Rush Limbaugh was imbibing enough clean pharmaceutical grade opiates to kill an elephant. Yet still he lives. Street drug junkies die.

lastlib

(23,216 posts)
34. Re-read that part pls......
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:02 PM
Aug 2016
"...but has not come up with an explanation..."


meaning, they're trying to make one up that doesn't upset their worldview that abortion, birth control, and women's health are the roots of all evil. Until they can find a way to cover their fundie arses without saying the new laws are the cause, they ain't gonna say or do nuttin'!

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
3. I'm not sure this makes sense.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:39 PM
Aug 2016

The mortality rate is deaths per live birth. So an increase in pregnancies would not account for it.

On edit - if the women's health programs included those for prenatal care, then this would make sense.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. Or if they included access to birth control
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:24 PM
Aug 2016

Since women who should avoid getting pregnant may not have been able to get birth control, more would die. Also, lack of access to abortion for dangerous pregnancies - tubal pregnancies for instance - can cause death of the woman.

Response to leftynyc (Original post)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Another librul conspiracy!
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:49 PM
Aug 2016

See, all these librul women just waited until Texas did something lethally stupid in regard to prenatal care and women's health. Dozens of them stayed pregnant for years just so they could die in childbirth and embarrass Gov. Abbott and the Republican-dominated Texas legislature. It's all so clear, sheeple! James O'Keefe has a sting in the works where he poses as a pregnant woman and dies while giving birth; that'll show everyone the Truth!

Warpy

(111,249 posts)
7. If there is ever a new psychiatric disorder to be entered into the DSM
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:52 PM
Aug 2016

it should be misogyny with a subset of extreme religious patriarchy.

These smug, godly jackasses won't be happy until all women are either penned up like cattle or dead. And yes, it is a sickness.

It's high time the rest of their sex recognize it for what it is.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
25. So what do the crazies do? They give $1.65 million to Carol Everett's group.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:04 PM
Aug 2016

Never ceases to amaze me.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
26. In the absence of war
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:13 PM
Aug 2016
“In the absence of war, natural disaster, or severe economic upheaval, the doubling of a mortality rate within a two year period in a state with almost 400,000 annual births seems unlikely,” researchers write.


Au contraire...there is no absence.

It IS a result of a war on women.
Forced pregnancy and without medical, reproductive prenatal care IS a natural disaster, for women.
Economically, the women most affected ARE already in a state of economic upheaval, which will get worse for family members in the case of a complicated death, or the addition of another mouth to feed.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
37. You are exactly right! Everything you said is the truth of the way it really is!
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:55 AM
Aug 2016

I don't believe these evil asses are really religious at all. They are hypocrites to the extreme. They call themselves Christians, but do the opposite of what Jesus would do.

I hate this so much. Women and families suffering so much because of their phony grandstanding.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
41. You know that's not true
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:49 AM
Aug 2016

In fact, more abortions are done in many red states because of their weirdness about birth control. It's that these women don't vote on that issue - maybe if this story gets out there in a viral sense, they'll change their minds.

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