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Bytemeister

(49 posts)
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 12:46 PM Aug 2016

When Obama Was Elected We Got MORE BIGOTRY...When Hillary Is Elected Will We Get MORE MISOGYNY?

When Barack Obama was elected President of the United States, we saw the Right-Wing react with MORE BIGOTRY...When Hillary Clinton is elected President, will we see the Right-Wing react with MORE MISOGYNY?

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When Obama Was Elected We Got MORE BIGOTRY...When Hillary Is Elected Will We Get MORE MISOGYNY? (Original Post) Bytemeister Aug 2016 OP
Yes. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #1
I'd say that it is likely unavoidable - flor-de-jasmim Aug 2016 #2
Oh God yes winetourdriver Aug 2016 #3
Yes, and they'll blame it on her. Shrike47 Aug 2016 #4
+1000 --and it will work. librechik Aug 2016 #17
Only with the worst of them. Most will get over it. Hortensis Aug 2016 #20
Undoubtedly... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #5
Undoubtedly n/t Coventina Aug 2016 #6
Pretty Much FreakinDJ Aug 2016 #7
Of course Egnever Aug 2016 #8
Yes. stage left Aug 2016 #9
Yeah. But if they were or are winners, we'd still see bigotry and misogyny. Mc Mike Aug 2016 #10
But their bigotry and misogyny will be cured when they die. Botany Aug 2016 #11
Unfotunately we Millennials are in some ways MORE sexist than the Boomers are. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #33
Yes - like wtf Dems2002 Aug 2016 #38
In 08 when it became clear gwheezie Aug 2016 #12
Most likely. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #13
Of course we will Freddie Aug 2016 #14
"Moral licensing." yallerdawg Aug 2016 #15
Of course. Iggo Aug 2016 #16
I think it would be safe. deathrind Aug 2016 #18
YES, and DonCoquixote Aug 2016 #19
unfortunately, it is likely :-( etherealtruth Aug 2016 #21
This horde of psychopaths will attack anyone over anything Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2016 #22
Unfortunately, yes. DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #23
The GOP is the Drama Party. world wide wally Aug 2016 #24
Yes, but if Trump is elected thucythucy Aug 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #26
It's already happening. Even here, some people who in the past I have always seen Squinch Aug 2016 #27
yes, of course we will. what we have seen from the woman-haters so far is NOTHING niyad Aug 2016 #28
Who is 'we'? I don't think I'm going to get any more misogyny HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #29
Hmmm.. Michigan is plenty big! whistler162 Aug 2016 #30
I would argue we only saw the racism brought to the forefront mythology Aug 2016 #31
One onely has to go on Reddit to see that the misogynistic BS has already started. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #32
The first division of the species is sex. So yes. CrispyQ Aug 2016 #34
Yes lunatica Aug 2016 #35
Yes, and it will destroy them. greendog Aug 2016 #36
It oughta. Iggo Aug 2016 #37
 

winetourdriver

(196 posts)
3. Oh God yes
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

If you think PBO drove them over the edge, you aint seen nothing yet. Wait till they have to deal with a "girl".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Only with the worst of them. Most will get over it.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:25 PM
Aug 2016

Note that while HRC's favorability ratings have plummeted into negative figures both times she's run for president, they stayed in positive ranges when she served as SoS and as a U.S. senator. She wasn't breaking any new ground there.

Wounded Bear

(58,619 posts)
5. Undoubtedly...
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 12:51 PM
Aug 2016

It's sad, but maybe it is necessary to bring the cockroaches out into the light to expose their bigotry. And I'm including misogyny as a form of bigotry, because it is. It is hate, plain and simple, born of fear.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
10. Yeah. But if they were or are winners, we'd still see bigotry and misogyny.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

It would just be enacted via their executive policies and legislative control.

They're always going to scream and cry and go on the attack. So we might as well keep them out of power.

Botany

(70,480 posts)
11. But their bigotry and misogyny will be cured when they die.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:00 PM
Aug 2016

I know new generations are taught to hate too but hopefully the %s of the population
who carry this toxic load will decline too. The sight of HRC being sworn in as POTUS
should be good for a few thousand heart attacks and or strokes.


BTW I don't know if this figure is correct but I was told that the GOP has spent over $400
million in trying to take down the Clintons.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
33. Unfotunately we Millennials are in some ways MORE sexist than the Boomers are.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:29 PM
Aug 2016

I remember seeing an article saying that Millennial men are less open to women in high-tech fields and in positions of power than people in their 60s.

Dems2002

(509 posts)
38. Yes - like wtf
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 07:41 PM
Aug 2016

Yes, as a gen xer, I would say my generation of guys may be some of the best. Wish I knew what happened to the ones who came after.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
12. In 08 when it became clear
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:01 PM
Aug 2016

That we were going to either have the 1st black or 1st female president I thought the right wing is going to go berserker. I say let's elect the 1st female president and finish them off. They will create their own destruction.

Freddie

(9,258 posts)
14. Of course we will
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:03 PM
Aug 2016

Just like PBO brought the racists out of the woodwork, HRC is already firing up the inner misogyny of countless assholes. Just look at FB references to "cankles", "shrill", "c*nt" etc.
Quite possibly the saving grace here is that over half the population is female.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
19. YES, and
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:23 PM
Aug 2016

that is precisely WHY we need to ignore and if need be run right over the Conservative Trolls. They are trying to send us a message that electing people not white men only leads to more punishment, which is why they love parroting the Jill Steins, Ralph Naders, and others who push that message even they they are too arrogant to admit they are helping the GOP when they say shit like that.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
22. This horde of psychopaths will attack anyone over anything
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

You could elect the whitest guy in the country, lets call him Chet Van Buren, lets make him from somewhere in the deep south while we're at it and with lots of dopey pictures of him in camouflage with a gun hoisting a dead animal.

I don't think much would have been different, birtherism would have just been substituted with some other phony conspiratorial scandal.

Will attacks on Hillary Clinton be misogynistic? Probably.

Would absolutely anyone else be attacked less or in a less vile manner than Obama and Clinton have been? Probably Not.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
24. The GOP is the Drama Party.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:45 PM
Aug 2016

All they can do is use Fox and the RW media to hype what a disaster any Dem would be. Obama was AA so they used that. Hillary is a woman, so they will use that too. Always claiming it will be a total disaster for the country.l
In reality, the biggest disaster for this country has been a white man named George.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
25. Yes, but if Trump is elected
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:02 PM
Aug 2016

we'll see a massive surge in actual physical violence against people of color, women, immigrants, people with disabilities...

Having a president who openly encourages violence against "the other" is bound to energize the unhinged among us.

Hell, his campaign is doing that already. Look at the violence at his rallies.

Imagine having a president (who appoints the attorney general) who longs for the good old days when "people like that would be carried out on a stretcher." Every wannabe Zimmerman will be out there looking for a chance to be a "patriot."

We HAVE to defeat this man.

Response to Bytemeister (Original post)

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
27. It's already happening. Even here, some people who in the past I have always seen
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:07 PM
Aug 2016

as allies have done a 180 degree turn.

It's only going to get worse.

niyad

(113,213 posts)
28. yes, of course we will. what we have seen from the woman-haters so far is NOTHING
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:07 PM
Aug 2016

compared to what will happen after 21 Jan 2017.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
31. I would argue we only saw the racism brought to the forefront
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

The racism was always there, but that having Obama as President made them willing to let that out. I think the same will happen when Clinton wins.

But again, the underlying sentiment that black people, or Hispanics, or women (or any group that isn't conservative, straight white males) are lesser was already there. The talk about black voters being kept on the Democratic plantation, or women and "legitimate rape" didn't start with Obama or Clinton.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
32. One onely has to go on Reddit to see that the misogynistic BS has already started.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

The Internet and "nerd culture" has become awash is unabashed literal misogyny, the Neo-Fascist and Libertarian Techie alt-right literally wants women to be property, again.

CrispyQ

(36,439 posts)
34. The first division of the species is sex. So yes.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:50 PM
Aug 2016

Misogyny will rear it's ugly head in the same way bigotry did when President Obama became president. I put some blame on Palin & her racist innuendo, but even more blame on the media for not calling her out on it. And for the past 7.5 years, the media has been mostly silent on the racist attacks on Prez O, which lends a sort of cultural acceptance to that kind of behavior & expression of bigotry. The diff between '08 & now is noticeable. The bigots feel empowered because no one has put these nasty pieces of shit in their proper place & they are starting from an even lower point, this time.

While I have my criticisms of both Obama & Clinton, he has handled the abhorrent disrespect with grace & sometimes humor, & I know HRC will do the same.

greendog

(3,127 posts)
36. Yes, and it will destroy them.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 07:06 PM
Aug 2016

More than half of our population is women. And they aren't concentrated in a few states or big cities. They're everywhere.

This isn't a battle that the lunatic right can win. Remember what happened to Limbaugh when he went after Sandra Fluke. He took a hit that he's never recovered from.

And here's the great part. They won't be able to resist. Like moths to a flame.

Iggo

(47,545 posts)
37. It oughta.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 07:21 PM
Aug 2016

I don't think you can get away with outright misogyny ("legitimate rape", anyone?) on a national level anymore.

Sexism? Yeah. Unfortunately.

Straight up misogyny? I don't think so. At least I hope not. But when they try it, I'll fight it.



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