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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWTF is all the division tonight? We are one team.
Blue. Hillary. Democrats!
Some seem to be questioning the color shirt we wear. It is BLUE. If not you do not belong here.
We have had almost eight years of a President I adore. He has done the best he can under divisive hateful rhetoric. He has given us peace where we only knew angst. He took us out of a recession, actually a depression. Yet tonight I saw a post claiming he, Clinton and Pelosi are Oligarchs as bad if not worse as Bush Cheney Romney and McCain.
WTF?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)To say Obama, Hillary and Pelosi may be worse than Bush, Cheney or McCain has to be coming from RWers.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)They are awful and do not belong here.
Hekate
(90,656 posts)I've been on jury twice today.
Did. Got one.
melman
(7,681 posts)but you started a new thread to talk about the bad post.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Not the one I alerted on.... yet??????
I find it interesting that members of DU are concerned. I posted a thread. Then slap me silly, I was notified that DI is ripping me to shreds and calling mentally ill. Do you know anything about that?
melman
(7,681 posts)You alert the post instead of responding to it, and then you fight it here in this thread while pretending not to.
No, I don't know anything about any thread that you were 'notified' about.
You are apparently on a computer, I suppose you could actually go look for this thread it if you are that interested.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)care to prove I did?
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"I suppose you could actually" allow for more than one simplistic possibility (divisive) reason for the OP. However, if you are unable to perceive more than one possibility in any given situation, I understand.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)...on s DEMOCRATIC board. What are YOU doing?
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Comments.
Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)
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LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)For some of us it is actually possible to accept the facts that prominent studies now support, that under a Democratic or Republican presidency, we have been sliding towards oligarchy at an alarming rate AND understand it is important not to allow Drumpt to win.
And to support the party made up of members that are more aware and concerned of this fact even if some choose to ignore it. And even have the gall to alert on OPs that dare bring this up.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)have the same goals. Some are clearly here to disrupt and to continue their war on the Democratic Party.
chillfactor
(7,574 posts)some who claim to be DUers clearly are not.....and it shows in their posts.
Did you see them?
We are in GE. None should stand.
Some still seem to slip through though.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)What a fool I am.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)was wonderful. The fact that some can't also follow your lead exposes them for who they really are.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)betsuni
(25,472 posts)all the oxygen will be sucked out of the atmosphere and DEMOCRACY WILL DIE.
Yup, that's their logic.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)underpants
(182,787 posts)Response to underpants (Reply #3)
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Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Response to Person 2713 (Reply #18)
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Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I am a Democrat.
~ Will Rogers
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)betsuni
(25,472 posts)here and get all worked up into a self-righteous I'm-smarter-than-all-of-you froth? The moon's full tonight.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)lol. read that one huh? Gotta wonder what color their team is!? It sure ain't blue.
betsuni
(25,472 posts)It's an all-purpose insult now.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)MHO. They achieved there goal. Division.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I wouldn't accuse anyone one politician of being an Ogliarch. I would however agree with arguments that our economic and political system are increasingly controlled/influenced by large corporations, wealthy individuals, and other monied interests.
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sheshe2
(83,746 posts)It's a big club, and you ain't in it
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/07/21/john-dewey-was-right-american-politics-merely-shadow-cast-big-business
You never saw this yet agree. Obama Hillary and Pelosi = Bush Chaney Romney and McCain.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)It is tantamount to a bullying technique.
I must have missed the post in question and I typically discount any article from commondreams as being hyped and biased.
While this link is just a book review of one of Robert Reich books by Paul Krugmand along with some economic analysis and commentary his comments related to us resembling an Oligarchy are pretty stunning.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2015/12/17/robert-reich-challenging-oligarchy/
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)link?
I have been alert stalked and BULLIED off this board for a long long time.
Don't play this game with me.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)about Democrats that I did not nake.
I am a playing no game. I am being quite clear and straightforward
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)I asked for a link.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)It is my opinion that you did so to discredit me. I called you on it.
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)Corporatists! Statists! Oligarchs! Neoliberals!
Remember when all the hip people were using the word "looters" to express their disdain for non-wealthy folks?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)They may think they're being clever about it, but no; their agenda is glaringly obvious.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)The same thing the used to happen on weekends when Manny and his crowd would swarm in, post all their BS, and had enough of them here they took over the juries and were able to avoid hides. Maybe it's just me, but I think the JPR crowd are doing it all over again, and I would bet Manny has a hand in it.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Jackasses are swarming! They hate Hillary with a passion!
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)I closed one op.
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Conspiracy theory is ridiculous. We elected Obama to be President. He is not part of some small cabal. He had to deal with Congress and the Judiciary. We are not ruled by a few people - we have separation of powers and state and federal governments. The idea is ridiculous.
Coloradocabbie
(2 posts)There is no conspiracy theory needed to validate that approximately 60 or so people own more wealth than half the world's population combined. SIXTY!
Everyone here knows that the world's political arena is a pay-to-play system that represents the interest of the very wealthy.
It would be ridiculous to dismiss all the reasons that clearly demonstrate we are a people ruled by a small group of powerful elites.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)It's us vs them, black hats vs white hats, 100% good vs 100% evil. And when Hillary gets in everything will be just perfect.
treestar
(82,383 posts)You are assuming those who own the wealth rule us and that is not the case. We have elections. We function per the constitution. We can vote for anyone we want.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Russia also has elections and their oligarchy always wins too.
Here there are two main parties but the oligarchs have both covered. A run for President is a multi year process. Candidates are not only vetted by their party, the public, and the media. They are also vetted and groomed by the .1%. Nobody gets in without their approval. Although Bernie almost succeeded. But their minions in the corporate media and in the top few of the DNC were ready to use whatever it took to take him down if he had gotten any closer.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Elections mean nothing..."
Nor do unsupported allegations lacking any objective evidence.
We often call them simply 'bumper-stickers', as they contain the same depth of wisdom and breadth of substance that "my child is an honor student at jack handy elementary school" does.
Objective evidence... it's not just for science anymore.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)And if you actually want to educate yourself on the reasoning involved, the scholar authoring it answers questions and explains the evidence you seek:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/princeton-scholar-demise-of-democracy-america-tpm-interview
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
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Rex
(65,616 posts)They just got old real fast.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)It is not suppose to be this way now.
I will not bother to say what I think/ know.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I wish it did, I wish the admins would ban those that only post here to keep us divided up. That is my wish.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Not newbies.
I have welcomed some awesome newbs lately. They are Democrats!
Love them!
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Democrats as Oligarchs. And THEN. THEN say they are Bush Cheney Romney and McCain. You are not a Democrat.
Bye Bye. We don't want you here, only Democrats need to apply!
Liberal In Red State
(442 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Have a good weekend, She (mine started in 2 hours).
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)SheriffBob
(552 posts)but i think there are a lot of rw poes who are long time members here.
there have been a lot of posts today against liberalism.
still_one
(92,174 posts)supports Democrats, and Hillary for President
It looks like these usual suspects are now spewing this Oligarch garbage. It is the same bullshit they were spewing a few months ago when they were calling anyone who supported Hillary in the primaries, "third way Democrats"
It is garbage, and I would suggest these unhappy folks go over to JPR, where they can explicitly spew their hate against Democrats
Don't let it bother you one bit. Garbage in and garbage out is all they have. We know what the game is, and it's not going to work.
Stay #fierce.
Gothmog
(145,147 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Says "Think. While it's still legal".
JustAnotherGen
(31,816 posts)Someone put Obama on the same subterranean level as Bush, Cheney, Romney, and McCain? That's bananas. That's crazy talk! love ya Sheshe!
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Gothmog
(145,147 posts)Larkspur
(12,804 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Larkspur
(12,804 posts)I'm stating the obvious about myself.
G_j
(40,367 posts)sort of brings into the question the validity of your OP.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Other than they are both minorities, the two groups could not be more opposite in power and privilege.