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sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 07:41 PM Aug 2016

WTF is all the division tonight? We are one team.

Blue. Hillary. Democrats!

Some seem to be questioning the color shirt we wear. It is BLUE. If not you do not belong here.

We have had almost eight years of a President I adore. He has done the best he can under divisive hateful rhetoric. He has given us peace where we only knew angst. He took us out of a recession, actually a depression. Yet tonight I saw a post claiming he, Clinton and Pelosi are Oligarchs as bad if not worse as Bush Cheney Romney and McCain.

WTF?

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WTF is all the division tonight? We are one team. (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2016 OP
Nasty, we have an important election this year, we need to win and win big. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #1
Have you read those posts? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #6
I hope you alerted on them Hekate Aug 2016 #9
ummmhmm. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #11
So the post is gone melman Aug 2016 #57
Your point? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #59
The point is melman Aug 2016 #60
I did not alert anything sheshe2 Aug 2016 #61
lol melman Aug 2016 #67
Who the hell wants to respond to every bullshit TROLL post? AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #65
"I suppose you could actually" allow for more than one simplistic possibility LanternWaste Aug 2016 #94
She saw a disruption and vented. She stands up for Democrats b/c that is what we do here AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #64
If you don't like the post, move on. Use your "ignore" function. Don't try to attack people. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2016 #87
I read in one thread and did a little checking, they are not winning support by their Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #55
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #75
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #84
I don't believe that all DUers KMOD Aug 2016 #2
I agree... chillfactor Aug 2016 #5
Hey KMOD. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #8
I agree. KMOD Aug 2016 #21
I actually welcomed one of them back. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #22
Your generous and classy move towards unity KMOD Aug 2016 #26
They are not DUers are they? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #10
But if Democrats aren't constantly and harshly criticized every second, betsuni Aug 2016 #30
. KMOD Aug 2016 #62
Good one! NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #93
+1,000!!! AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #66
It's all the fault of Obama's lesbian farmers underpants Aug 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #4
I believe he is broadcast to troops abroad on our dime also. Person 2713 Aug 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #24
I am not a member of any organized political party. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #7
Hahaha! That's so true it hurts. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #68
Agree. Insulting us as "rah rah team blue" -- if Democrats are the opposing team, why hang around betsuni Aug 2016 #12
rah rah team blue............... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #14
Seen that one more often than just once. betsuni Aug 2016 #17
I got cricketts! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #31
+1 KMOD Aug 2016 #23
The person (not the OP) who started this shit-storm did no Democrat any good at this time. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #13
Correct. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #16
I must have missed posters accusing specific politicians of being Olgliarchs. CentralMass Aug 2016 #15
You missed it yet you state your opinion. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #19
No, and I have said nothing of the kind and I think that I have seen you use this tactic before. CentralMass Aug 2016 #27
You think I have used this tactic before? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #36
Yes, you accused me of making astatement or supporting some specific comments CentralMass Aug 2016 #37
You accused me of certain tactics. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #41
Yes, that is correct. You accused me of making statement that I did not make CentralMass Aug 2016 #51
The seductive power of jargon bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #20
It's quite clear that certain posters are still fighting the primaries. cwydro Aug 2016 #25
It sure is obvious! AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #73
Looks like Andy823 Aug 2016 #28
Nailed IT! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #34
+1 Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #63
+1 AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #74
And they didn't get alerts? liberal N proud Aug 2016 #29
They did and won. Many times..Keep alerting. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #32
republican trolls attacking from the left. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #33
I know! treestar Aug 2016 #35
Ridiculous? I think not. Coloradocabbie Aug 2016 #81
To some on here that is all one big C T LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #85
A completely different thing treestar Aug 2016 #90
lol Elections mean nothing LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #92
Nor do unsupported allegations lacking any objective evidence. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #95
Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #96
My girl! nt Stellar Aug 2016 #38
... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #39
Been that way forever, the divisive posts and OPs are nothing new. Rex Aug 2016 #44
We are in GE mode now. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #47
That never seems to matter to those that only post to divide us up. Rex Aug 2016 #48
The new rules aren't going away after the election. So that's something. nt pnwmom Aug 2016 #70
Actually these are old timers that are attacking us. They hate Hill. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #45
IF YOU EQUATE sheshe2 Aug 2016 #40
Amen! Amen! Amen! Liberal In Red State Aug 2016 #42
Trolls gonna troll awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #43
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2016 #49
Losers are acting out Cary Aug 2016 #50
Yah.................. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #52
lmao! that is too stinking funny! AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #72
i am new here SheriffBob Aug 2016 #53
Anyone who sets up this false equivalency should probably be not here a DU. DU still_one Aug 2016 #54
sheshe2 Loki Aug 2016 #56
K&R Gothmog Aug 2016 #58
LOL! Wearing a blue shirt because it's the only color it came in..... raven mad Aug 2016 #69
That's crazy talk! JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #71
Yup! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #79
K&R Gothmog Aug 2016 #76
K&R mcar Aug 2016 #77
I'm a Democrat not a mindless cheerleader Larkspur Aug 2016 #78
Nice personal attack. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #80
Whom am I attacking? Larkspur Aug 2016 #82
that you would think that a personal attack G_j Aug 2016 #88
Oligarchs is the new black. nt fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #83
That has to be the dumbest analogy ever LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #86
Just smh... fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #89
I agree with you that we've got no need for division. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #91

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Nasty, we have an important election this year, we need to win and win big.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 07:49 PM
Aug 2016

To say Obama, Hillary and Pelosi may be worse than Bush, Cheney or McCain has to be coming from RWers.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
59. Your point?
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 12:28 AM
Aug 2016

Not the one I alerted on.... yet??????

I find it interesting that members of DU are concerned. I posted a thread. Then slap me silly, I was notified that DI is ripping me to shreds and calling mentally ill. Do you know anything about that?

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
60. The point is
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 12:39 AM
Aug 2016

You alert the post instead of responding to it, and then you fight it here in this thread while pretending not to.


No, I don't know anything about any thread that you were 'notified' about.


You are apparently on a computer, I suppose you could actually go look for this thread it if you are that interested.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
94. "I suppose you could actually" allow for more than one simplistic possibility
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:15 PM
Aug 2016

"I suppose you could actually" allow for more than one simplistic possibility (divisive) reason for the OP. However, if you are unable to perceive more than one possibility in any given situation, I understand.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
64. She saw a disruption and vented. She stands up for Democrats b/c that is what we do here
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 02:43 AM
Aug 2016

...on s DEMOCRATIC board. What are YOU doing?

Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
87. If you don't like the post, move on. Use your "ignore" function. Don't try to attack people. n/t
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 02:51 PM
Aug 2016


Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
84. +1000
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 01:50 PM
Aug 2016

For some of us it is actually possible to accept the facts that prominent studies now support, that under a Democratic or Republican presidency, we have been sliding towards oligarchy at an alarming rate AND understand it is important not to allow Drumpt to win.

And to support the party made up of members that are more aware and concerned of this fact even if some choose to ignore it. And even have the gall to alert on OPs that dare bring this up.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
2. I don't believe that all DUers
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 07:54 PM
Aug 2016

have the same goals. Some are clearly here to disrupt and to continue their war on the Democratic Party.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
26. Your generous and classy move towards unity
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:41 PM
Aug 2016

was wonderful. The fact that some can't also follow your lead exposes them for who they really are.

betsuni

(25,472 posts)
30. But if Democrats aren't constantly and harshly criticized every second,
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:48 PM
Aug 2016

all the oxygen will be sucked out of the atmosphere and DEMOCRACY WILL DIE.

Response to underpants (Reply #3)

Response to Person 2713 (Reply #18)

betsuni

(25,472 posts)
12. Agree. Insulting us as "rah rah team blue" -- if Democrats are the opposing team, why hang around
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:14 PM
Aug 2016

here and get all worked up into a self-righteous I'm-smarter-than-all-of-you froth? The moon's full tonight.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
14. rah rah team blue...............
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:20 PM
Aug 2016

lol. read that one huh? Gotta wonder what color their team is!? It sure ain't blue.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
15. I must have missed posters accusing specific politicians of being Olgliarchs.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:21 PM
Aug 2016

I wouldn't accuse anyone one politician of being an Ogliarch. I would however agree with arguments that our economic and political system are increasingly controlled/influenced by large corporations, wealthy individuals, and other monied interests.



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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
27. No, and I have said nothing of the kind and I think that I have seen you use this tactic before.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:42 PM
Aug 2016

It is tantamount to a bullying technique.

I must have missed the post in question and I typically discount any article from commondreams as being hyped and biased.

While this link is just a book review of one of Robert Reich books by Paul Krugmand along with some economic analysis and commentary his comments related to us resembling an Oligarchy are pretty stunning.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2015/12/17/robert-reich-challenging-oligarchy/

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
36. You think I have used this tactic before?
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:15 PM
Aug 2016

link?

I have been alert stalked and BULLIED off this board for a long long time.

Don't play this game with me.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
37. Yes, you accused me of making astatement or supporting some specific comments
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:21 PM
Aug 2016

about Democrats that I did not nake.

I am a playing no game. I am being quite clear and straightforward

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
51. Yes, that is correct. You accused me of making statement that I did not make
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:41 PM
Aug 2016

It is my opinion that you did so to discredit me. I called you on it.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
20. The seductive power of jargon
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:33 PM
Aug 2016

Corporatists! Statists! Oligarchs! Neoliberals!

Remember when all the hip people were using the word "looters" to express their disdain for non-wealthy folks?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. It's quite clear that certain posters are still fighting the primaries.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:39 PM
Aug 2016

They may think they're being clever about it, but no; their agenda is glaringly obvious.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
28. Looks like
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:43 PM
Aug 2016

The same thing the used to happen on weekends when Manny and his crowd would swarm in, post all their BS, and had enough of them here they took over the juries and were able to avoid hides. Maybe it's just me, but I think the JPR crowd are doing it all over again, and I would bet Manny has a hand in it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
35. I know!
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:07 PM
Aug 2016

Conspiracy theory is ridiculous. We elected Obama to be President. He is not part of some small cabal. He had to deal with Congress and the Judiciary. We are not ruled by a few people - we have separation of powers and state and federal governments. The idea is ridiculous.

 

Coloradocabbie

(2 posts)
81. Ridiculous? I think not.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

There is no conspiracy theory needed to validate that approximately 60 or so people own more wealth than half the world's population combined. SIXTY!

Everyone here knows that the world's political arena is a pay-to-play system that represents the interest of the very wealthy.

It would be ridiculous to dismiss all the reasons that clearly demonstrate we are a people ruled by a small group of powerful elites.



LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
85. To some on here that is all one big C T
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 02:26 PM
Aug 2016

It's us vs them, black hats vs white hats, 100% good vs 100% evil. And when Hillary gets in everything will be just perfect.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
90. A completely different thing
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 04:21 PM
Aug 2016

You are assuming those who own the wealth rule us and that is not the case. We have elections. We function per the constitution. We can vote for anyone we want.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
92. lol Elections mean nothing
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 11:02 PM
Aug 2016

Russia also has elections and their oligarchy always wins too.
Here there are two main parties but the oligarchs have both covered. A run for President is a multi year process. Candidates are not only vetted by their party, the public, and the media. They are also vetted and groomed by the .1%. Nobody gets in without their approval. Although Bernie almost succeeded. But their minions in the corporate media and in the top few of the DNC were ready to use whatever it took to take him down if he had gotten any closer.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
95. Nor do unsupported allegations lacking any objective evidence.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:19 PM
Aug 2016

"Elections mean nothing..."

Nor do unsupported allegations lacking any objective evidence.

We often call them simply 'bumper-stickers', as they contain the same depth of wisdom and breadth of substance that "my child is an honor student at jack handy elementary school" does.

Objective evidence... it's not just for science anymore.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
44. Been that way forever, the divisive posts and OPs are nothing new.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:55 PM
Aug 2016

They just got old real fast.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
47. We are in GE mode now.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:08 PM
Aug 2016

It is not suppose to be this way now.

I will not bother to say what I think/ know.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
48. That never seems to matter to those that only post to divide us up.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:09 PM
Aug 2016

I wish it did, I wish the admins would ban those that only post here to keep us divided up. That is my wish.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
45. Actually these are old timers that are attacking us. They hate Hill.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:02 PM
Aug 2016

Not newbies.

I have welcomed some awesome newbs lately. They are Democrats!

Love them!

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
40. IF YOU EQUATE
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:43 PM
Aug 2016

Democrats as Oligarchs. And THEN. THEN say they are Bush Cheney Romney and McCain. You are not a Democrat.

Bye Bye. We don't want you here, only Democrats need to apply!

SheriffBob

(552 posts)
53. i am new here
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:57 PM
Aug 2016

but i think there are a lot of rw poes who are long time members here.


there have been a lot of posts today against liberalism.

still_one

(92,174 posts)
54. Anyone who sets up this false equivalency should probably be not here a DU. DU
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 11:08 PM
Aug 2016

supports Democrats, and Hillary for President

It looks like these usual suspects are now spewing this Oligarch garbage. It is the same bullshit they were spewing a few months ago when they were calling anyone who supported Hillary in the primaries, "third way Democrats"

It is garbage, and I would suggest these unhappy folks go over to JPR, where they can explicitly spew their hate against Democrats

Loki

(3,825 posts)
56. sheshe2
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 12:03 AM
Aug 2016

Don't let it bother you one bit. Garbage in and garbage out is all they have. We know what the game is, and it's not going to work.

Stay #fierce.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
69. LOL! Wearing a blue shirt because it's the only color it came in.....
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 04:42 AM
Aug 2016

Says "Think. While it's still legal".

JustAnotherGen

(31,816 posts)
71. That's crazy talk!
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 05:39 AM
Aug 2016

Someone put Obama on the same subterranean level as Bush, Cheney, Romney, and McCain? That's bananas. That's crazy talk! love ya Sheshe!

G_j

(40,367 posts)
88. that you would think that a personal attack
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 02:58 PM
Aug 2016

sort of brings into the question the validity of your OP.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
86. That has to be the dumbest analogy ever
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 02:37 PM
Aug 2016

Other than they are both minorities, the two groups could not be more opposite in power and privilege.

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