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Despite the fact that the MSM ignores really bad weather internationally, they cannot ignore the almost continuous bad storms, huge rains, tornadoes, wildfires, severe droughts.extreme heat etc somewhere in the US almost constantly. It appears that climate change/warming is already upon us in a big way.
It looks likes all this climate mayhem is here to stay and most likely will get really worse as time goes on. Yet it is getting harder to move toward sensible action. In fact deniers are more resistant and determined to stop ALL action than they ever have been.
former9thward
(31,949 posts)When was the last time a major Hurricane hit the U.S.? Despite every year for the last 11 years people predicting that "this will be the year for a lot of Hurricanes".
wcast
(595 posts)Some places in Louisiana had 30 inches of rain. West Virginia had a similar event before that, and Texas before that. All within the last year. In Northern PA where I live we had the fourth driest summer since they began records. Our average snowfall is 50plus inches, last winter we got less than 10.
Climate change is showing marked increases in extreme events in both directions.
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)Yet it caused major hurricane damage.
globally, category 3 and higher storms set a new N. Hemisphere record last year.
More here
hatrack
(59,578 posts)Record storm after record storm in the Indian Ocean, South Pacific and Northeast Pacific, all powered by record high water temperatures. But nothing to see here, right?
In the past six months, the Earth has witnessed several of the freakiest, most intense storms in recorded history. (Ed. - Dateline 20 April 2016)
Spurred by the highest ocean temperatures observed to date, record-breaking tropical cyclones the class of storms that includes hurricanes and typhoons have explosively developed in three regions: the northeast Pacific Ocean, the south Pacific Ocean and the Indian Ocean. These storms may be a harbinger of increasingly severe tropical cyclones in future decades as the Earth continues warming.
The most recent vicious storm, Tropical Cyclone Fantala, attained peak winds of 173 mph north of Madagascar this past weekend. According to meteorologist Bob Henson at Weather Underground, it became the most intense tropical cyclone on record in the Indian Ocean. Fantala has since lost some steam and is forecast to weaken to a tropical storm over the southern Indian Ocean by early next week. Fortunately, it has avoided any land areas.
Just two months before Fantala, Tropical Cyclone Winston became the fiercest storm on record in the South Pacific, with peak winds of 185 mph. This storm devastated parts of Fiji. And four months before Winston, Hurricane Patricia (October 2015) became the strongest storm measured to date by the National Hurricane Center in the Northeast Pacific. Its peak winds reached 215 mph before it slammed into Mexicos west coast. Patricia was just one of 25 Category 4 or 5 tropical cyclones in 2015 in the Northern Hemisphere, the most on record by far.
This is not to mention November 2013s Super Typhoon Haiyan, which became the strongest tropical cyclone in the northwest Pacific (and the Eastern Hemisphere) based on wind speed. Its 195 mph maximum sustained winds devastated parts of the Philippines.
EDIT
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/04/20/record-warm-oceans-have-spawned-scary-slate-of-monster-tropical-cylcones/
pintobean
(18,101 posts)hatrack
(59,578 posts).
former9thward
(31,949 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)You jumped former9thward's ass for doing so. He was on topic, you weren't.
hatrack
(59,578 posts)Guess again.
We're at 15 straight months of record global temperatures. El Nino is dead, btw - officially expiring in May, per Australia, and ending in July, per NOAA.
We're already nudging 1.5C above historic averages, the aspirational "goal" of the Paris Accord, which calls for holding global average temperature increases at 2C.
We've gone from YOY monthly average increases in atmospheric CO2 of 1.5 to 2 ppm to 3.5 and 4.0 ppm, and we've done so in one year.
If, in the context of these general trends, and the continuing drumbeat of extreme events, you choose to flit through the internet with your limp little rhetorical knitting needles, poke-poke-poking away so that the triumphant squeal of "Ooh! Gotcha!" can add some purpose to your days, then knock yourselves out.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)You don't care so much that you replied, and edited twice.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)..."almost continuous bad storms, huge rains, tornadoes, wildfires, severe droughts.extreme heat etc somewhere in the US almost constantly."
Not just "huge storms." Deny that.
former9thward
(31,949 posts)Deny that. Tell me a year where we did not have tornadoes, wildfires, bad storms, extreme heat "somewhere in the U.S."
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Well done, sir.
Or not.
former9thward
(31,949 posts)As I thought.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)What climate change?
Louisiana was always under water!!!!!!!!!!!
malaise
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The laws of physics clearly cannot be broken, but this looks suspicious.
Rob McElwee
However difficult it is to forecast the weather, the results will always follow the laws of physics.
At the moment, the forecast paths of three tropical storms, now close to Japan, seems to question logic.
If all three followed similar paths - because all three are being steered by the same wind and sitting over the same warm water - then it would just be a busy period.
Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case.
At 1200GMT on Saturday, Tropical Storm Mindulle was very close to Iwo Jima and moving north. Tropical Storm Lionrock was 500km south of Osaka and heading west. While Tropical Storm Kompasu was less than 500km east of Tokyo, yet travelling northwestwards.
Tropical storms are steered by winds in the middle atmosphere and are fed by the warmth of the waters beneath them. On first sight, it makes no sense that three storms this close to each other should go in different directions.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Or is it old weather models that are breaking down in new conditions?
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Now you have instant news and internet coverage 24/7 so it seems like it's happening more often, but that stuff has been happening for a millennia. Is it happening more often? Maybe but don't confuse weather for climate.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)hunter
(38,304 posts)Keep in mind that it's impossible to distinguish many climate change refugees from war refugees. War can be another symptom of global warming.
Building walls and shooting them is one option, I suppose, but if you're that sort of genocidal asshole then maybe you should remember that many of those refugees will be U.S. citizens.
Years ago, during the Dust Bowl, "Okie" was not a term of endearment. How are we going to treat "Florida Man?"