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TexasTowelie

(111,989 posts)
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:08 AM Aug 2016

MD-80, the workhorse of the skies, being put out to pasture

As summer draws to a close, American Airlines is hastening the pace at which it sends aged McDonnell Douglas MD-80s to the aircraft boneyard. Five years into a revamp of its fleet, the world’s largest carrier on Tuesday will retire 20 MD-80-family aircraft, “one of the largest single-day aircraft retirements in airline history,” according to American.

“Summer is the busiest time of the year for airlines, and with summer flying winding down, we can go ahead and park these aircraft,” the company said in a statement. The planes being sent Tuesday to the Roswell International Air Center in New Mexico are, on average, 28 years old, about five years older than the carrier’s overall MD-80 fleet.

American plans to retire 45 MD-80s this year, most of them in the third quarter, and be rid of all of them by the end of 2017 as part of a fleet renewal project. Economically, the MD-80 is no match for the newer Boeing 737 and Airbus A320 family of aircraft that have replaced it. American, which ordered 460 new Airbus Group SE and Boeing Co. jets in 2011, says the 737-800 and A321 jets replacing the MD-80 are 35 percent more fuel efficient on a per-seat basis.

Two other U.S. MD-80 operators, Delta Air Lines Inc. and Allegiant Travel Co., both plan to quit the jet in the next few years.

Read more: http://www.heraldnet.com/business/md-80-the-workhorse-of-the-skies-being-put-out-to-pasture/

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MD-80, the workhorse of the skies, being put out to pasture (Original Post) TexasTowelie Aug 2016 OP
Now I really feel old pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #1
Yes, the MD-80 only had to put in 28 years of work. TexasTowelie Aug 2016 #3
It seems like only yesterday that these were bright, shiny and new pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #5
Technology advances and things change Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #2
I would be scared to ride on a 20-year-old school bus. TexasTowelie Aug 2016 #4
I understand. Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #7
At least buses aren't as subject to metal fatigue and cracks in important structural components! Spider Jerusalem Aug 2016 #9
No, TexasTowelie Aug 2016 #10
All depends on how maintained the school bus was. If it were as well maintained as the average ... marble falls Aug 2016 #14
I fixed a couple when I was an auto mechanic. Many if the suspension was better, Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #19
I'd like a "short bus" one but they are 'hot' on the market. marble falls Aug 2016 #25
A Nigerian airline pilot told me in the early 2000's that tourists Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2016 #24
10 years too late if you ask me, scared every time I get on one snooper2 Aug 2016 #16
Yep, it was born as the Douglas DC-9 in 1965. trof Aug 2016 #22
My pre-dawn, pre-coffee mind somehow translated MD-80 to WD-40 Buns_of_Fire Aug 2016 #6
Well Buns_of_Fire, TexasTowelie Aug 2016 #8
If you lose your WD-40, don't worry pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #12
"Did you ever see Dallas from a DC-9 at night?" Joe Ely. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #20
I remember getting on one in 1985 BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #11
L1011 GP6971 Aug 2016 #26
Eastern Airlines - 1975 BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #27
The MD-80 was the aircraft I used to work with almost exclusively when I worked for AA Cooley Hurd Aug 2016 #13
I never liked these planes after learning about the the Alaska Air 261 crash Maven Aug 2016 #15
The flaws of any aircraft design are frequently found in tragedy. hunter Aug 2016 #18
A shame to see the last McDonnell-Douglas frames go Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #17
The Austin-Atlanta run is full of MD-80s. Flown on them many times. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #21
My mother worked for Douglas Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2016 #23

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. It seems like only yesterday that these were bright, shiny and new
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:46 AM
Aug 2016

But then again, you could say the same for me.

TexasTowelie

(111,989 posts)
4. I would be scared to ride on a 20-year-old school bus.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:43 AM
Aug 2016

I'd shudder to think about getting on an airplane that is 28 years old even though they are kept up much better from a mechanical perspective than any school bus.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. I understand.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:48 AM
Aug 2016

a few years ago I went up in the EAA's 1929 Ford Tri-Motor and it was a blast. Of course that particular airplane is exceptionally well maintained, but things can and do happen with any form of machinery.

TexasTowelie

(111,989 posts)
10. No,
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:45 AM
Aug 2016

but bus drivers are subject to mental fatigue and crack addiction in their most important structural components which means they are thinking of the children.

ETA: So are pilots though. I was in rehab with an American Airlines pilot.

marble falls

(57,015 posts)
14. All depends on how maintained the school bus was. If it were as well maintained as the average ...
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:02 AM
Aug 2016

airliner - no problem at all. Particularly if it were a Bluebird model bus, they're designed to do a million miles with proper maintenance.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
19. I fixed a couple when I was an auto mechanic. Many if the suspension was better,
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:38 PM
Aug 2016

it really would be a fairly good road vehicle for camping.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
24. A Nigerian airline pilot told me in the early 2000's that tourists
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:20 PM
Aug 2016

traveled to Nigeria just to fly in a BAC-111 and then to Gabon to fly in a Caravelle. He thought it was funny that Nigerians considered the planes that were the backbone of their domestic airlines a national disgrace while Europeans would travel to Nigeria just to get their ear drums blown out.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
16. 10 years too late if you ask me, scared every time I get on one
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:09 PM
Aug 2016

Bolts missing, gaps in the engine housings, beat to shit,

Death grip every time I take off in one of those LOL

trof

(54,256 posts)
22. Yep, it was born as the Douglas DC-9 in 1965.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:43 PM
Aug 2016

Then McDonnell and Douglas merged and it became the MD-80.
McDonnell-Douglas was bought by Boeing in 1997 and it became the Boeing 717.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,159 posts)
6. My pre-dawn, pre-coffee mind somehow translated MD-80 to WD-40
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:47 AM
Aug 2016

and I momentarily panicked, wondering if I had enough on my credit card to stock up on a few cases. But after a few moments, some synapses finally connected, and I realized that my world was not in imminent danger of freezing up.

I'm sorry to see the DC-9 go, but happy that my life will remain nicely lubricated for the foreseeable future.

TexasTowelie

(111,989 posts)
8. Well Buns_of_Fire,
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:58 AM
Aug 2016

at the risk of making a double entendre, it is nice to know that things are nicely lubricated for you.

BumRushDaShow

(128,551 posts)
11. I remember getting on one in 1985
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:49 AM
Aug 2016

I considered them a "mini jet", having been accustomed to the 737s and L-1011s and other larger planes. American (with its US Airways fleet) has mostly gone with Airbus now.

BumRushDaShow

(128,551 posts)
27. Eastern Airlines - 1975
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:40 AM
Aug 2016

to Orlando! My first time on the L-1011. It was a big deal then - a "wide body" plane that was not the "famous" 747 (the 767 wasn't out yet).

That was back when airlines used to give passengers a free "flight bag"... and in addition, Eastern handed out free plastic pilot "wings" (pins) to kids. Now you're lucky if you can get a free cup of coffee or tiny can of soda.

How the mighty have fallen.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
13. The MD-80 was the aircraft I used to work with almost exclusively when I worked for AA
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:02 AM
Aug 2016

American Airlines, not the 12 step program, that is.

Anyhow, that was 27 years ago, when most of them were brand new. Very easy aircraft to service. Still remember the swing/tuck to get into the cargo bellies.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
15. I never liked these planes after learning about the the Alaska Air 261 crash
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:00 PM
Aug 2016

Due to the "T-tail" design which relies on a single jackscrew to control the horizontal stabilizer. Unlike other critical components in an aircraft, there is no backup (redundancy) for the jackscrew, so if it fails, the horizontal stabilizer is lost resulting in catastrophic failure of the aircraft. Which is exactly what happened to Alaska 261.

These planes have been workhorses but I'm glad they're being retired; in fact, I think they should have been "parked" years ago.

hunter

(38,304 posts)
18. The flaws of any aircraft design are frequently found in tragedy.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:44 PM
Aug 2016

I find modern aircraft much more worrisome because so much software is involved. I've seen software fail in many weird and unexpected ways. I don't think I'd enjoy writing code for anything life-or-death.

Another thing that's scary about flying these days is lithium batteries.


Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. A shame to see the last McDonnell-Douglas frames go
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:20 PM
Aug 2016

They have had a long, proud service life...

I flew one of the ancient AA MD-82s three weeks ago coming home from vacation (DFW-ORF)... I even commended the pilots as I exited...

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
23. My mother worked for Douglas
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

When I was a kid I had a huge factory model of the DC-9 Super 80 (aka MD-80) hanging from my bedroom ceiling. It would probably be worth a fortune if she didn't drill holes through it to hang it up. I also had a light-up picture of the "Fly DC Jets" sign.

She was emotionally distraught by the merger with McDonnell and even more so by the merger with Boeing, she cried after the delivery of the last 717.

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