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Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:14 PM Aug 2016

How do Republicans see themselves?

I'd be mortified if people described me hateful, racist, selfish, all the negatives said about Republicans. Do individual Republicans like being described as bad people? How can anyone see words like that as compliments? How can anyone see the behavior as positive?

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,596 posts)
1. They don't see themselves as hateful or bigoted or any such thing.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:22 PM
Aug 2016

They see liberals as naive and foolish people who don't understand how dangerous those other people are. Liberals are endangering The American Way Of Life by allowing those other people to pillage and plunder and take resources away from those who truly deserve them. In their own minds GOPers aren't hateful at all; they are just realistic people who appreciate the dangers those naive liberals can't understand.

unblock

(52,118 posts)
5. it's worse than that; they think liberals are the real racists
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:28 PM
Aug 2016

see, we're all racists for wanting to use the gub'mint to help black people. that's oppression, see! giving them free-dum is the key to all things magical, and that's the best way to help black people.

the think of themselves as righteous fighters for america and american values and everyone would benefit from that if only liberals would just shut up and go away.

and if they ever hear insults such as "racist" sent their way, they just think of themselves as martyrs, suffering ill-treatment just for doing the right thing.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
6. Blind to their own path and overwhelmed, so they survive by pushing others down.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:49 PM
Aug 2016

Pushing others down helps them think they are above water level, above others, not drowning.

If they have money, they are not drowning, they must be superior.
If they don't have money, they are just happy to think they are above the persons around them.

Like drowning persons flailing in water pushing on anything that might give a second of rise, all they end up doing is raising the water level around themselves, never getting ahead. But, that doesn't matter since they have no direction they know to go anyways.

Johonny

(20,818 posts)
17. Yeah, I agree
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:15 PM
Aug 2016

You hear it all the time on hate radio. Liberals are like children that don;t understand the real dangers of they world, they don't understand the real economy, they lack God and don't have real morals etc...

If your whole life has told you being White, Christian and Republican is moral and not being is immoral there isn't much surprise people become adults that think this is normal and the preferred view point.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
2. The opinions of those
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:23 PM
Aug 2016

outside their bubble are not taken seriously. But the left is guilty too. I don't get offended when some RWNJ calls me a demorat, libtard or baby killer. When a lefty calls a righty names, they take it as a compliment. If it pisses off a liberal, then its the right thing to do. I would wager to say that reason alone is why 25% of Trumps supporters will be voting for him.

Wounded Bear

(58,601 posts)
4. They think of themselves as "strong father figures"....
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:26 PM
Aug 2016

and Liberals, of course, are the "helpless children needing a hard lesson in life."

There's an old joke, and I've heard it told using various ethnic twists, which I'll leave out as immaterial. It's the "trust" lesson that matters.

A boy climbs up on the fireplace mantel and is too afraid to work his own way down, so he calls his father. His father comes and says, "Jump, son. I'll catch you."

Son: But I'm afraid.

Father: Don't worry, I'll catch you.

So the son jumps. As he does the father steps back and watches his son hit the floor hard and start crying. The father says, "See, son. You can't trust anyone, take care of yourself"


Republicans are that father figure, and Trump is their current role model.

Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
10. Oh my!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:47 PM
Aug 2016

My 8th grade math teacher, Mr. Morris, had a book of sick jokes and told us that one. Probably 1964. Never forgot it.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
7. My mother in law is a rethug
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:34 PM
Aug 2016

That can, much of the time seem sensible. She is a thug solely because her father was. Never delves into the meat of any issue, preferring instead to allow the likes of faux snooze tell her what her opinions should be and how she should vote. She seems to see herself as a basically good, caring, God fearing person.

My sister in law is a rabid, foaming at the mouth teabagger, who hates anyone that doesn't look like or agree with her. She admits to sometimes praying for Dems to die horribly, along with pro-choicers. Imagines herself to be righteous and pious, fair minded and worthy of others admiration.

The drumpf supporting, gun humping, bigoted, xenophobic sack of crap I have to work with, sees himself as a John Wayne type good guy. Thinks anyone not sharing his views must have some sort of mental disorder. Openly muses about "how sweet it would be" to be able to pull his gun and shoot down someone he judges to be the bad guy.

All 3 are wildly out of touch with reality.

walkingman

(7,581 posts)
8. You'll probably laugh at this
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:40 PM
Aug 2016

but I believe that there are actually "genetic" differences between those that call themselves "Conservatives" (in the last 35 years) and those that call themselves "Liberals". The total lack of compassion, a superiority complex, very little regard for anyone other than those that look and think like them, etc. has got to be more that ideology?

The "American Exceptionalism" nationalistic attitude contributes to this but I think it is more than that. Strangely it seems to be for the most part a "white thing" - I very seldom if ever hear that type of rhetoric from anyone other than white men and women.

Our way of living and dealing with our fellow humans is a man-made thing, why not at least try and make things good for everyone? Greed, jealousy, racism, power over others - that is how I would define present day White America.

 

HerrKarlMarx

(37 posts)
9. They are the protectors of traditional American values
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:42 PM
Aug 2016

and we progressives are looking to destroy this beautiful America by wanting to deviate from traditional American values.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
11. Do you listen to the adjectives used about you
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:54 PM
Aug 2016

by people that you disagree with politically? Probably not. You're also probably on the correct side. The side that's right. The side that's smart. The side that can see things, the details, the big picture. You're on the good side. You wouldn't be on the wrong side. You wouldn't be on the stupid side. Why would anyone pick being on the stupid side? That would make you inherently stupid, and you're not that. You're the hero of the movie.

Whatever it is that we call existence sure would be easy if there was one way of seeing everything, and that one way was 100% correct.

You ask, how do Republicans see themselves? Then you list all the words said about them by other people. What you seem to be really asking is how must Republicans feel about being called names. How do you feel about being called names by people of other political persuasions?

Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
15. I surprised myself be getting into an argument
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 03:36 PM
Aug 2016

about politics with a stranger at a post office. We didn't call each other names, but we both questioned the other's knowledge base. Since I am confident that I was better informed than the other person, I didn't back away from the disagreement. The other person made a casual tea bag statement, and I am so tired of hearing comments like that and not saying anything and I felt a lot of pride that I spoke up.
I already said I'd be mortified if I were described as hateful, etc. Luckily, I am doing something
I am not out much, so personally, people don't call me names. I once had a job that included helping students get things that students need: money, housing, transportation, day care, jobs. I got one student information that helped her get a full scholarship. I helped another student get housing and day care. I helped them both get jobs. The student who got the scholarship resented the help I gave the other student, who was black. I heard that she called nasty names because I helped the black student. I didn't feel bad that the student called me names. I was even-handed assisting both students and fulfilling my job. On a personal level, I thought much less of the name caller. If I hadn't been a Democrat, would I have been aware of the resources that helped the students I worked with? With the life experience I have, I see the need for the hand up and sometimes the hand out. I'm old enough to see that both get passed along and good deeds are rewarded.
I am on the right side, not just because I say so, but because I do so. I am Democratic because there is a better chance that Democrats will be helpful to individuals. Of course, I'll choose a political ideology that suits my character. So I wonder how people who help their neighbors, who volunteer in their communities, take care of their families can turn around and scream in the face of a woman going into a clinic, or insult a person of color or a person wearing a hijab, attacking someone because of their sexual orientation. How do they square it? Day after day?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
12. Likely not as hateful racist or selfish, so not an issue for them.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 03:13 PM
Aug 2016

Most republicans I know are all about "responsibility", and still may be liberal socially.

Others are indeed racist.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
14. If you want an answer to this, go direct to the horses' mouth.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 03:18 PM
Aug 2016

It's virtually impossible to get a clear picture of someone's worldview through the filter of someone who hates them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. They think of themselves as hard working people
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 03:50 PM
Aug 2016

who are smarter and better (more moral) than people who are poorer and need help. They don't want their taxes going to help people they consider their inferiors. They claim to be charitable towards them and to want to help them.

Another example: they are better than undocumented aliens because they would never violate another country's laws. They apparently would stay put and stay poor rather than do that. Of course they don't realize what life is like in Mexico. Apparently poverty is what Mexicans "deserve." They mustn't be working hard enough or praying enough.

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