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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:23 AM Aug 2016

Anecdotal Evedience of a Cracking Trump Base

Last edited Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:13 AM - Edit history (1)

I have a friend, probably my best friend. A 68 year old, white male who is semi-retired and very well off. He loved Trump from the beginning of his campaign. As you can imagine, we argued a lot. He actually admitted to me he's a bigot. Anyway, I would ask him, during the 16 months of the campaign, what the fuck do you like about this guy? His answer, "he's not a politician, he tells it just like it is. He doesn't speak from a teleprompter, he speaks right from his heart. He's not politically correct. He's self-funded, so he doesn't owe anything to anybody if he gets elected. He's going to throw all the illegals out. After all, Louis, what part of 'illegal' don't you understand".

I had lunch with him on Monday. I know he would never vote for Hillary, but I asked him "what do you think of your guy now?" "Woody Johnson, from Johnson and Johnson, and the owner of the hated Jets, heads up his political funding operation. He now reads exclusively from a teleprompter and his position on immigration is Jeb Bush's position. He's just another politician, except he's unqualified. You still with him?" His answer, "No. I'll be in Florida on November 8. I was going to get an absentee ballot, but now I'm not. As it turns out, he's no different than the rest of those bastards."

I was wondering, has anyone else here experienced the same type of interaction from Trump supporters?

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Anecdotal Evedience of a Cracking Trump Base (Original Post) louis c Aug 2016 OP
The yard sign on the corner has come down spinbaby Aug 2016 #1
"Just another politician, Jeb Bush with hair, unqualified to run the country" bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #2
K&r. You want another talking point? griloco Aug 2016 #9
Love it. (nt) enough Aug 2016 #10
"Jeb Bush with microcylinder attachments." Chiyo-chichi Aug 2016 #16
"Trump - fake as his hair!" bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #18
Good one! Mme. Defarge Aug 2016 #26
Something else, for sure. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #25
Glad to hear that some are coming to their senses woodsprite Aug 2016 #3
RWNJ in my neighborhood had Trump... Adrahil Aug 2016 #4
"he tells it just like it is" (referring to Trump) Martin Eden Aug 2016 #5
i do my best to avoid trump supporters nt retrowire Aug 2016 #6
I run into them because of my weekend gig and I have zero tolerance amuse bouche Aug 2016 #20
Asshat's supporters.... Aviation Pro Aug 2016 #7
That is fucking brilliant! GoneOffShore Aug 2016 #21
One of my college friends who said he had not voted for a winning president for 8 years, Thor_MN Aug 2016 #8
Most of my Republican friends are "country club" Republicans Patiod Aug 2016 #24
another question is whether he is actually gaining any new voters (seems unlikely) Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #11
I think new or rare voters he brought on are going to start getting put off. bullimiami Aug 2016 #27
the Hillary hatred runs deep for many, such as my cousin Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #12
I live in a state that was settled by people coming north from Mexico Warpy Aug 2016 #13
his base seems less enthused reznor73 Aug 2016 #14
so... barbtries Aug 2016 #15
Let me help you out... workinclasszero Aug 2016 #22
they so are. barbtries Aug 2016 #23
My cousin now refuses to admit he voted for Trump in the primary election. LS_Editor Aug 2016 #17
Well, Ann Coulter for one TlalocW Aug 2016 #19
Your friend not voting at all is an extra win for Democrats SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #28
I know some repubs who are voting 3rd party lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #29
if he waffles on immigration, that's like the ultimate betrayal Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #30
Yep Glamrock Aug 2016 #31

bucolic_frolic

(43,135 posts)
2. "Just another politician, Jeb Bush with hair, unqualified to run the country"
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:25 AM
Aug 2016

Thanks for the talking points. TAKE THEM TO THE WEB! TO COMMENTS SECTIONS!
TO Message Boards! TO THE INTERNETS!!!

griloco

(832 posts)
9. K&r. You want another talking point?
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:09 AM
Aug 2016

Try "puffery", the word Trump uses in court filings to pretend he's not swindling.
It can be used so many ways
Pufferer
Pufferizing
Puffered
"You're merely a mark (con man's target) parroting Trump puffery.
Putin, Pence, punk also alliterate

Chiyo-chichi

(3,579 posts)
16. "Jeb Bush with microcylinder attachments."
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:05 AM
Aug 2016

I guess one can technically call it hair... but much of it used to belong to someone else.

bucolic_frolic

(43,135 posts)
18. "Trump - fake as his hair!"
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:11 AM
Aug 2016

More fodder for the message boards/chatrooms/disqus etc etc etc

Don't give those GOP trolls an inch!

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
3. Glad to hear that some are coming to their senses
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:29 AM
Aug 2016

Id say all but one of my conservative FB friends say they still plan on voting for him.

Just pulled into a campground in Emerald Isle, NC, last night. I have never seen so many Trump signs and stickers. All on permanent sites and houses on the way on to the island. Just can't fathom so many stupid people. Until arriving here, our total count for visible Trump support was around 47. This place put it up to 88, and we haven't had a chance to drive around the beach areas yet.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
4. RWNJ in my neighborhood had Trump...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:35 AM
Aug 2016

Stickers all over his truck (the HOA does not permit political yard signs). But this morning, I noticed they were all gone, except for one mostly covered by black tape.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
5. "he tells it just like it is" (referring to Trump)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:38 AM
Aug 2016

Your friend is delusional, horrendously misinformed, or an idiot if he thinks (or thought) that statement is true.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
20. I run into them because of my weekend gig and I have zero tolerance
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:39 AM
Aug 2016

Honestly, when right in front of them I have a very difficult time, not telling them they are fucking idiots

Aviation Pro

(12,162 posts)
7. Asshat's supporters....
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:05 AM
Aug 2016

...are found in clusters like cancer however they won't metastasize because the very fuckwitedness they feed off of does not affect those with a working brain.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
8. One of my college friends who said he had not voted for a winning president for 8 years,
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:09 AM
Aug 2016

said last night he would not vote for Trump. I don't think there are many rational Republicans that will. All Trump has is the rabid, TEA party types that would die if Limbaugh told them they didn't have to breathe.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
24. Most of my Republican friends are "country club" Republicans
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 04:31 PM
Aug 2016

All about lower taxes and smaller government (fewer regulations on their businesses).

I don't believe any of them will be voting this year. None will vote for Hillary, but they seem to find Trump painful.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. another question is whether he is actually gaining any new voters (seems unlikely)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:17 AM
Aug 2016

or if there really is a deep secret voter base that he's tapped into that is not measured in polls (also seems unlikely).

bullimiami

(13,086 posts)
27. I think new or rare voters he brought on are going to start getting put off.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:12 PM
Aug 2016

By his in your face flopping on what they believed were his core issues.

Build the Big Beautiful Wall, Deport those illegal immigrants, Doesn't owe anyone anything ...


 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
12. the Hillary hatred runs deep for many, such as my cousin
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:19 AM
Aug 2016

It's hard to see her and her husband and mother not voting for Trump at this point. They are die-hard supporters.

Her Facebook profile pic shows her kid wearing a Trump hat. If she changes that pic, then I'll have some idea that her mind has changed.

Warpy

(111,247 posts)
13. I live in a state that was settled by people coming north from Mexico
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:25 AM
Aug 2016

so if that asshole has any real fans around here, they're not going to admit it to anybody around them.

Your pal is well off and educated enough to see through some of this stuff. People who haven't had his chances are furious at the party that let them down for so long, so their support for Trump will remain strong. They know he'll be a rotten president, they're counting on it. They want this rotten system wrecked from the top down and Trump is just ignorant and clumsy enough to do it.

I think the softening of support among wealthier bigots is due in a large part to Trump's asking for campaign cash, "What? He said he was going to fund this thing with his own money! Why the hell is he asking me if he's got ten billion bucks?" That's just a guess but it's an educated one.

reznor73

(17 posts)
14. his base seems less enthused
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:26 AM
Aug 2016

Yeah - the Trumpeters I know aren't that into him as much. Some of my family that supports him just lost interest in it - I can't say what it was. I'm not sure that they'll vote - some of them just plan on sitting it out.

Isn't amazing that an "outsider" could be more corrupt than career politicians?

Frankly speaking - I think the anger and outrage people have right now is unfounded in many ways. I get anger of school debt, low paying jobs, the environment, poverty etc..

But anger at muslims, latinos and the lgbt community is just evidence of deep seated bigotry.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
15. so...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:03 AM
Aug 2016

his misogyny - okay.
his ignorance of the constitution - okay.
his childish making fun of a disable person - okay.
his calls to violence and suborning foreign espionage and assassination - okay.
his constant lying - okay.
his multiple bankruptcies - okay.
his broad brush attacks on muslims and undocumented workers - okay.
his failure to release his tax returns - okay.

his decision to use a teleprompter - FUCK HIM.

i don't get these people.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
19. Well, Ann Coulter for one
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:34 AM
Aug 2016

Apparently on the day they launched her new book extolling Trump in which she claims he could change his opinion on anything, and it wouldn't matter, his change on immigration mattered to her.

It's really quite nice schadenfreude.

TlalocW

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
28. Your friend not voting at all is an extra win for Democrats
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:56 PM
Aug 2016

Now he won't be voting for down-ballot Rs as well.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. if he waffles on immigration, that's like the ultimate betrayal
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:34 PM
Aug 2016

WHERE IS OUR WALL? WHERE ARE OUR MASS DEPORTATIONS?

Glamrock

(11,795 posts)
31. Yep
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:45 PM
Aug 2016

One of the kids I'm working with. Twenty something. Was three of us smoking outside the hotel. I said something derogatory about Trump and he was like, "Hey now. "
I said, "Hey now my ass! That fucker ain't qualified to run a political convention. It's been proven after that shit show. Vote for who you want to man, but you're being scammed. Sarah Palin all over again. "

So he heard me talk shit about Trump for a few days. Monday came around, the clown was in the news, again.
For something sstupid, again. I started talking about it and he said, "That's it! I'm voting for Johnson! "

Alas, the Libertarian party has been getting their ass kicked this week.

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