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KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:01 PM Aug 2016

Epipen, .3mg, from Canadian Pharmacy is $112.71

you CAN buy one at a time or more. It does require a prescription. It does show the Mylan image.

https://www.canadadrugs.com/products/epipen/0-3mg

Product of United Kingdom

Manufactured by: MEDA PHARMACEUTICALS

This product is offered for sale by River East Supplies Ltd. of United Kingdom


No generic alternative is available for this drug.



So....why is the US list price at $608 for a twin pack when Canada sells it for $225.42. Do we need to buy from the UK manufacturer?
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Epipen, .3mg, from Canadian Pharmacy is $112.71 (Original Post) KewlKat Aug 2016 OP
Meda (a Swedish pharma co.) was acquired by Mylan less than a month ago. Avalux Aug 2016 #1
It's $600 so Drug Corps can collude with Insurance Corps & enjoy fabulous profits together Sunlei Aug 2016 #2
That conspiracy is made more difficult to believe given the two parties are at odds mythology Aug 2016 #18
Yes, and Pharma still has a tight grip on the dems... HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #19
there are laws against price gouging Mosby Aug 2016 #3
The cost of the drug in this injector is very minimal. I think like less than 5 dollars. KewlKat Aug 2016 #4
Even $112 sounds over priced PatSeg Aug 2016 #5
Big pharma's rationing and death panels. Mika Aug 2016 #6
The shelf life is listed as one year. Elwood P Dowd Aug 2016 #11
Can you buy in Canada? KewlKat Aug 2016 #12
I'm about a thousand miles from Canada. Elwood P Dowd Aug 2016 #14
sent you a DU message KewlKat Aug 2016 #15
It's a good thing that the free market regulates itself... Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #7
Well, ahem, maybe don't remove ALL government regulations. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #8
Maybe twenty years ago they could support it... Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #9
Conservatives might want to introduce laws to eliminate drug patents ... JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #10
You can get Adrenaclick in the United States. Why go via Canada for EpiPen? KittyWampus Aug 2016 #13
Seems like a reasonable alternative ornotna Aug 2016 #17
Coming back into the U.S. from Canada years ago ThoughtCriminal Aug 2016 #16
This is why its vitally important that marijuana stay illegal at the federal level Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #20

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. Meda (a Swedish pharma co.) was acquired by Mylan less than a month ago.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:11 PM
Aug 2016

In order to sell the product in Canada, the co. has to abide by govt. regulations....the price isn't regulated here. It's that simple.

BTW - Mylan only sells the Epipen as a two-pack in the US - can't buy a single unit.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. It's $600 so Drug Corps can collude with Insurance Corps & enjoy fabulous profits together
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:12 PM
Aug 2016

They do similar with ALL medicines, every single one.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
18. That conspiracy is made more difficult to believe given the two parties are at odds
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:33 PM
Aug 2016

with each other.

Insurance companies don't want to pay for expensive drugs. Drug companies want expensive drugs.

The way to lower costs on drugs is patent reform and through more public funding/ownership of pharmacological research. The ability to lightly tweak an existing drug just before the original patent runs out extending the patent is a major factor as it blocks generic versions, even of the original product.

We already do a lot of the funding for medical research, but we allow the patents to be privately held. Instead they should be held by the government. We funded a lot of the risk, we should reap the rewards. If the drug companies don't like that, they can fund the risk all on their own.

We should also use the government's leverage to lower prices through Medicare/Medicaid, but thanks to Bush and drug company lobbying efforts, we can't do that.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
19. Yes, and Pharma still has a tight grip on the dems...
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 07:20 AM
Aug 2016

Protectionism for Pharma from globally competitive pricing is one of the most effective things pharma lobbyists do.

When "all the traffic will bear" pricing supported by protectionist laws combine with "do everything that can be done, no matter the cost" consumption, the outcome is predictably not responsive to the 'invisible hand' and becomes exceedingly expensive.

That combination destroys the potential for functional market pricing of health products and services in the US, and it probably always will.

Mosby

(16,295 posts)
3. there are laws against price gouging
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:18 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe the state atty generals should consider enforcing them.

Eta if the pen is 112 in Canada it's probably less than 40 bucks in Mexico.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
4. The cost of the drug in this injector is very minimal. I think like less than 5 dollars.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:22 PM
Aug 2016

So, what is causing the high price? The actual "injector" perhaps? I feel so bad for anyone that needs this and now have to decide how to pay for it or the risk of going without. Not sure of the shelf life, but I don't think it's very long.

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
5. Even $112 sounds over priced
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:27 PM
Aug 2016

And yes, I believe that it has a very short shelf life, so people can be spending large sums of money for a drug they may have to throw away eventually.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
6. Big pharma's rationing and death panels.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:32 PM
Aug 2016

Gotta love the rationing system known as capitalism.


Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
11. The shelf life is listed as one year.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:37 PM
Aug 2016

I pay $600.00 for a 2-pack and will have to get another 2-pack in May 2017. Takes up over half of my Social Security check once a year.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
14. I'm about a thousand miles from Canada.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:51 PM
Aug 2016

Can you do that over the phone or internet with a prescription?

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
7. It's a good thing that the free market regulates itself...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:08 PM
Aug 2016

As per conservatives for the last 30 years have told me, when all government regulations are removed, the market will self police itself and there would be no price gouging.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
8. Well, ahem, maybe don't remove ALL government regulations.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:13 PM
Aug 2016

We need to protect patents, so we can preserve monopolies on drugs.

Bonus: If a new use is approved for an old drug, the patent term resets to zero, extending the monopoly.

These are government regulations that a conservative republican can support wholeheartedly.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
9. Maybe twenty years ago they could support it...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:17 PM
Aug 2016

But, all regulations have been demonized by the right wing media and politicians for so long that I think even what you mentioned is a bridge too far for conservatives.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
10. Conservatives might want to introduce laws to eliminate drug patents ...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:34 PM
Aug 2016

... and then the drug companies will pay them handsomely for their "nay" votes.

I think the politicians' principles are easily purchased.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
13. You can get Adrenaclick in the United States. Why go via Canada for EpiPen?
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:40 PM
Aug 2016

What is the OBSESSION with EpiPen?

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
16. Coming back into the U.S. from Canada years ago
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:15 PM
Aug 2016

I swear I could have had a nuclear warhead in my trunk and a rocket launcher strapped to my back. Customs would have ignored all that. But they SURE wanted to make sure that I was not bringing in any prescription drugs that I purchased in Canada (nope).

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
20. This is why its vitally important that marijuana stay illegal at the federal level
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:17 AM
Aug 2016

I mean, how else will pharma companies be able to patent less-effective "derivatives" and sell them for $300 a pill, when people can just grow the whole plant in their closet for free?

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