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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 04:55 AM Aug 2016

Government needs to leave private enterprises alone!

If someone wants to drive people around for a few extra bucks, the government needs to stay the hell out of it. It's my car, I should be able to do whatever I want with it. No more bond plates. No more background checks. No more safety inspections. The free market should rule.

If someone wants to open a restaurant in their home, the government needs to stay the hell out of it. It's my house, I should be able to do whatever I want with it. No more business licenses. No more liquor permits. No more health inspections. The free market should rule.

If someone wants to offer their services as a therapist, the government needs to stay the hell out of it. It's my time and evergy, I should be able to do whatever I want with it. No more state boards. No more education requirements. The free market should rule.

If someone wants to sell shares of their company, the government needs to stay the hell out of it. It's my company, I should be able to do whatever I want with it. No more filing requirements. No more capital requirements. No more periodic SEC reporting. The free market should rule.

Based on all the responses in the Uber posts, I am assuming this is DU's current mantra?

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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
3. Laws are irrelevant in 2016
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:08 AM
Aug 2016

All they do is impede innovation.

It's like how some people think the government should be setting safety standards for self driving cars. Nope! The free market should determine whether SDCs are allowed to roam free. People are in a hurry for them. They want them NOW, dammit! If someone is hurt or killed because of an insufficient design: Oh well, that sucks, but their surviving families should be proud that they are martyrs for innovation.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
4. Rejecting some regulations as intrusive is not the same as rejecting all regulations.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:17 AM
Aug 2016

If riding in someone else's car is as dangerous as you make it out to be then regularly riding to lunch with co-workers ought to be regulated.

Lunabell

(6,078 posts)
2. I hope it isn't
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:03 AM
Aug 2016

Regulation is the only key to keep corporations from destroying the environment or our lives.

LakeVermilion

(1,040 posts)
5. Regulation seems to be based on problems that have occurred...
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:36 AM
Aug 2016

If outside decks collapse and injure people, a state government might be interested in establishing some minimum standards to protect people. A building permit ensures that the government knows that a deck is being built, and an inspection ensures that the minimum standards have been met.

The public has the right to be protected from low quality and financial scams if they have voted for representatives to establish safety regulations. Kansas, Wisconsin and Louisiana have repealed regulations and inspections. I don't see the institutions racing to those locations for the benefits of fewer regulations.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Maybe all those folks who know better how everyone else needs to live their lives need to be sure
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:38 AM
Aug 2016

they are really needed. Maybe if they weren't so two-faced it would be an easier question.

Just ask the black folks who are being arrested today in Seattle for selling weed, while the state is allowing primarily white people to make money selling the very same thing in stores that only they can afford or qualify to open.

“The most monstrous monster is the monster with noble feelings”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky,

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/legal-pot-and-the-black-market/481506/

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. "Why do you hate safety? Do you want people to die?" I believe is the preferred response but
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:55 AM
Aug 2016

such answers overlook the fact there is more than one way to destroy a life.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
9. My dad taught me that my rights
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 06:54 AM
Aug 2016

end the moment they infringe on the other person rights. Or in brief when my fist just about touches the nose of the other person.

If you want to open a business in your home fine AS LONG it doesn't affect my privacy and my rights to live in my home without undo invasion of my space. If your home is in the middle of a 100 acre field go for it. If it's in the middle of a residential block in my neighborhood there better be some zoning law that prevents that.

Rights have two considerations yours and the other parties.

Augiedog

(2,545 posts)
10. I think these darn airline and airplane rules are annoying. If I build my own airplane I should be
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 07:28 AM
Aug 2016

able to fly it anywhere I want with who ever I want on it. So there. Same goes for nukes too.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
11. Government regulation should make sense
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 07:30 AM
Aug 2016

Private taxis will operate until the brakes and tires wear out and
cause crashes and injure passengers if you don't inspect the vehicles.

Restaurants will open in homes with cockroaches and silverfish and serve
food in the basement, and never change the frying oil if you don't inspect.

If you think unlicensed therapists are a good idea, there's often an
unlicensed dentist who can help you.

Blue Sky laws are there to protect the public from liars who overstate
the financial soundness of their companies until they can't pay their
bills and go under. No regulation is essentially a 0% capital requirement.
Once everyone operates in the red, they all go under together. 2008 for
every company in America.

So no I don't think regulation is a bad idea. There can be too strict
regulations, or too many rules. Vehicle safety inspections are too frequent
because of lobbyists. Some cars go 80,000 miles a year, some go
1,200. Both don't really need inspection every 300 days.

Business professionals can grab hold of government to force regulations to
line their pockets. Contractors and permits come to mind.

Has anyone tried to simplify the tax code? Ever? You can hardly read
the whole code in your lifetime. It's not an argument for a flatter tax.
It's just that it's so complicated. Accountants love that, thank you FASB.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
12. Government should step out of the way
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:44 AM
Aug 2016

and allow a politically connected pharma company take a medicine delivery system developed with public funds, which delivers $3 worth of epinephrine (which first first synthesized in a lab in 1904), to be sold for massive profits, while undermining public health and safety.

Corporate sociopaths suck! The fact that money in politics enables to this behavior, makes me feel less of a citizen and more like a labor unit and consumer.

Big Pharma’s dirty secret: EpiPen was developed entirely with taxpayer money
http://usuncut.com/class-war/epipen-taxpayer-money/

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
14. I think the poor service many people
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:18 AM
Aug 2016

Have reported from mainstream taxi companies is driving the Uber love. I also think the cost of taxi medallions / licensing might have something to do with the poor quality of service. Cities see them as a money trough, and restrict their availability.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
15. Part of poor taxi service is simple economics
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 10:37 AM
Aug 2016

Most traditional taxi company owners have to rely on revenues and profitability, not on investor capital. So they cannot afford to have enough cabs to meet everyone's demand, which is NOT a constant, predictable thing. You either have too many cabs, and everyone sits around going broke until they quit or no show. Then BOOM! Driver shortage, people are waiting 90 minutes, and everyone complains that the traditional taxi business is run by a-holes who don't care about their customers.

Along comes Uber. They figured out how to be a cab company without being a cab company. They offloaded their fleet expenses onto the drivers, and then dropped rates to an impossibly low level in order to destroy their competition. And, in the process, they suborn criminal violation of various local laws regulating vehicles for hire. How is that NOT a RICO violation? Oh yeah, rich connected people are investors in Uber.

So we have an anti-worker company, started and ran by an Ayn Rand libertarian, which disregards worker and consumer protections. But if someone criticizes any part of Uber on a presumably progressive, presumably pro-labor website, they are told that they hate innovation and should shut up.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
19. And if I own a drug company and want to jack prices to the sky ...
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 01:38 PM
Aug 2016

... to make myself rich and drive sick people to bankruptcy, the government needs to stay the hell out of it, amiright?

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