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SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:23 PM Aug 2016

I AM SO DAMN ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!!!

Donald Trump’s campaign manager says ‘rape would not exist’ if women were stronger

Donald Trump’s new campaign manager once insisted that rape could be eradicated if women were “as strong as men.”

Kellyanne Conway was discussing the roles of women in the military on a 2013 episode of PBS’ “To the Contrary,” a roundtable discussion show featuring an all-women panel, when she made the baffling, victim-blaming declaration.

“If we were physiologically — not mentally, emotionally, professionally — equal to men, if we were physiologically as strong as men, rape would not exist,” she said. “You would be able to defend yourself and fight him off.”

Conway and the other panelists had been debating the roles of women in combat and military physical fitness requirements. The Republican campaign manager mentioned that there should be one universal fitness test for all soldiers, not women’s and men’s versions, to ensure we have the “best prepared military regardless of gender.”

Her comment did not appear to take into account male victims of rape and sexual assault. It also seem to place the blame on women who can’t “fight off” their aggressors — not the offenders who commit the sex crimes.

Conway was not immediately available to clarify her comments.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-campaign-manager-no-rape-women-stronger-article-1.2772682
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I AM SO DAMN ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!!! (Original Post) SummerSnow Aug 2016 OP
She is one of the stupidest people I have ever seen on TV. femmocrat Aug 2016 #1
What is wrong with republican women? smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #12
something similar to what's wrong with women who marry serial killers in prison. yurbud Aug 2016 #23
yikes--had forgotten some of that bs. niyad Aug 2016 #13
Oh, I don't think she is stupid PatSeg Aug 2016 #21
Yup - DU is not her intended audience. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2016 #30
And she's really good at what she does PatSeg Aug 2016 #31
GOPers - in other words - it's always the WOMEN's fault Iliyah Aug 2016 #2
Disgusting. Koinos Aug 2016 #3
What an idiot. sarae Aug 2016 #4
I have no words... DesertRat Aug 2016 #5
I have plenty of words, but most would get me in trouble. niyad Aug 2016 #7
Sit by me. I'm thinking the same words. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #10
I am sure you are. niyad Aug 2016 #14
Me too, Warpy Aug 2016 #11
definitely sit by us, then. I like learning new words. niyad Aug 2016 #15
Well, I need to squeeze in to your circle. hamsterjill Aug 2016 #25
scooching over to include hamsterjill. the more, the merrier. red or white? niyad Aug 2016 #32
White, please. hamsterjill Aug 2016 #36
here you go--and cheese and crackers would be lovely, thanks. niyad Sep 2016 #37
Well, I'm obviously in the right crowd!!! hamsterjill Sep 2016 #38
only the best for us. we deserve it!! niyad Sep 2016 #40
So rape only happens between two people and always a man and a woman? Rex Aug 2016 #6
maybe.. getagrip_already Aug 2016 #19
Channel the anger to action, imo saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #8
She is just role playing, Wellstone ruled Aug 2016 #9
Riiight. That's why there are no male victims. WhiteTara Aug 2016 #16
That's weird. I'm pretty sure I heard men get raped, too, especially in prison. tclambert Aug 2016 #17
Just Yuck. Lifelong Protester Aug 2016 #18
Rapepublicans. forest444 Aug 2016 #20
Thats almost accurate... Fresh_Start Aug 2016 #22
you certainly have that correct. and you forgot the weapons thing--you know, guns, knives, drugs, niyad Aug 2016 #33
To quote the president, "Don't get mad, vote." GreenEyedLefty Aug 2016 #24
That's it exactly. hamsterjill Aug 2016 #26
Rape would not exist if men would stop raping. Wheezy Aug 2016 #27
amazing how overlooked that little fact is. niyad Sep 2016 #39
Just when I think the ignorant cluelessness of these assclowns could not be any greater... FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #28
yeah, so, somehow a higher average female strength would protect even the weakest somehow? unblock Aug 2016 #29
please do not try to confuse that ignorant twit with facts. niyad Aug 2016 #34
This is why awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #35

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. She is one of the stupidest people I have ever seen on TV.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:27 PM
Aug 2016

She is a lawyer, but no one would ever know it because of her blathering dim-witted comments.

Found this on Twitter:

She has been around the TV talk show circuit for a long time. I remember her as Kellyanne Fitzpatrick. There must be tons of examples of similar hateful and offensive comments that she has made over the decades.

PatSeg

(46,794 posts)
21. Oh, I don't think she is stupid
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:55 PM
Aug 2016

I believe she is a very smart person talking to extremely stupid people. She knows exactly what she is doing.

PatSeg

(46,794 posts)
31. And she's really good at what she does
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:31 PM
Aug 2016

She has an answer for any question, never gets rattled, rarely even takes a breath, and does it all with that fixed smile on her face. She is probably the only effective surrogate that Trump has and shouldn't be underestimated. If we're lucky, she'll quit.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
3. Disgusting.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:29 PM
Aug 2016

And if children were bigger and stronger, there would be no pedophiles?

What about felonious sexual attacks does the Conway nitwit not understand?

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
25. Well, I need to squeeze in to your circle.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:01 PM
Aug 2016

Because I don't like what she said one bit.

It only confirms that she is WAY out of touch with the world.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. So rape only happens between two people and always a man and a woman?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:32 PM
Aug 2016

Does the average IQ drop every time Trump hires and fires a new campaign manager? That is jaw dropping stupid and yet he has a few months to go.

I bet in the end, Trump will be his own campaign manager. Just like he is his own PR guy and self CEO! It is disgusting what people will say to make a paycheck and get Trump elected. Oh yes it is.

getagrip_already

(14,250 posts)
19. maybe..
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:32 PM
Aug 2016

she was referring to traditional rape. not that icky gay rape. Oh, and if a woman rapes a man, he wasn't much of a man and probably liked it.

But if the woman is in a traditional marriage, it isn't rape anyway. It also isn't rape if she is dressed wrong, or if she had ever had a drink, or if she is on birth control.

You just have to know how to listen to them.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. She is just role playing,
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:37 PM
Aug 2016

and the Price Is Right. Everyone connected to this sham of a political campaign are doing their Reality TV auditions. It is going to get real ugly quick starting tomorrow.

tclambert

(11,080 posts)
17. That's weird. I'm pretty sure I heard men get raped, too, especially in prison.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:29 PM
Aug 2016

Her next argument might well be: "If all women openly carried guns, rape would not exist." But then there's roofies to consider . . .

Nope, the argument can't stand up on any merits.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
18. Just Yuck.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:32 PM
Aug 2016

I don't blame you for being so 'damned mad' right now. What a bunch of crapola.

Is she angling for a FOX news show?

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
22. Thats almost accurate...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:57 PM
Aug 2016

except of course..
when men rape babies, children, boys, girls, other men, unconscious victims, household pets and farm animals.

niyad

(112,434 posts)
33. you certainly have that correct. and you forgot the weapons thing--you know, guns, knives, drugs,
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:24 PM
Aug 2016

etc.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
24. To quote the president, "Don't get mad, vote."
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:00 PM
Aug 2016

What she said is repugnant and morally reprehensible, for sure, but hardly surprising.

The definition of insanity is not only doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, it's also expecting someone to do (or say) something different from what they have always done.

Instead of being mad about it, help Hillary win by getting out the vote.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
28. Just when I think the ignorant cluelessness of these assclowns could not be any greater...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:16 PM
Aug 2016

they go and say this!

Astounding!

unblock

(51,974 posts)
29. yeah, so, somehow a higher average female strength would protect even the weakest somehow?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:35 PM
Aug 2016

profoundly idiotic.

even if the average woman was as physically strong as the average man, a stronger-than-average man would still be able to exert power over a weaker-than-average woman.

never mind that this would in no way change the situation where the woman is unconscious, overly drunk, drugged, etc.

it wouldn't help elderly victims, unless kellyanne is also thinking elderly victims would also be as strong as much younger rapists?

it also wouldn't help victims who are being threatened, blackmailed, or extorted, or where the rapist has a weapon.

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