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gopiscrap

(23,756 posts) Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:07 PM Aug 2016

I'm not a lawyer but:

isn't illegal for a private citizen with out government authority to negotiate agreements with other governments?

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I'm not a lawyer but: (Original Post) gopiscrap Aug 2016 OP

Logan Act exboyfil Aug 2016 #1

The Logan Act is unconstitutional. former9thward Aug 2016 #7

He's not 'negotiating agreements,' elleng Aug 2016 #2

I agree. This is another non-issue. Let's not make Rethug mistake of arguing loser positions. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #5

Right. Thanks. elleng Aug 2016 #6

Trump was not purportng to act on behalf of the U.S. government pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #3

The only thing Trump was trying to negotiate is a way out of the corner he painted himself into. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #4

"I'm not a lawyer but:" -- stop right there. n/t X_Digger Aug 2016 #8

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)

1. Logan Act

Reply to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:08 PM

Aug 2016

I have posted the text on another thread. I am not sure that Trump went that far, but, from reports (I have not seen the speech) it seems like he is pretty close to it.

former9thward

(31,984 posts)

7. The Logan Act is unconstitutional.

Reply to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:32 PM

Aug 2016

It has been on the books for 217 years and has never been enforced because it is a violation of the 1st amendment.

elleng

(130,865 posts)

2. He's not 'negotiating agreements,'

Reply to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:15 PM

Aug 2016

he's informing of his points of view (such as they are.)

Logan Act forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments having a dispute with the U.S. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.