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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:49 AM Oct 2015

Germany wants migrants with no hope of asylum to be turned away at border

Source: Reuters

German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere wants to turn away migrants at the border if they clearly have no chance of gaining asylum, a regional newspaper reported, citing a draft bill from his ministry.

Passauer Neue Presse cited the draft bill as saying that like at airports, transit zones should be set up at land border crossings so that the asylum process can be carried out before a decision is made on whether migrants can enter Germany or not.

"That should create the possibility to deny entry at land borders as well in cases of inadmissibility or where an asylum application is clearly unfounded," the newspaper cited the draft bill as saying.

In cases where an asylum application was not clearly unfounded, the migrant would be allowed in, it said, and in cases where a decision on entry could not be made within a week or accommodation could not be provided at the border, the migrant would be allowed in, according to the draft bill.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/02/uk-europe-migrants-germany-idUKKCN0RV4CX20151002

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Germany wants migrants with no hope of asylum to be turned away at border (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 OP
No country allows completely unregulated immigration through their borders Democat Oct 2015 #1
Merkel won't survive this MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2015 #2
Confusing use of the terms "migrant", "refugee" and "asylum". A "migrant" would not qualify pampango Oct 2015 #3
Don't underestimate Merkel DFW Oct 2015 #4

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
2. Merkel won't survive this
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:17 AM
Oct 2015
Majority of Germans worried about refugees

Increased numbers of refugees are giving Germans second thoughts about their support for Chancellor Angela Merkel's welcoming policies, with more than half now saying they are concerned about the new arrivals in the latest polling.

In the latest "Deutschlandtrend" survey commissioned by public broadcaster ARD, 51 percent of people said they were afraid because of the large numbers of refugees arriving.

The previous poll, just three weeks ago, put that same number at 38 percent.

Arrivals sped up following Merkel's decision to allow Syrian refugees stuck in Hungary into Germany, rather than forcing them to remain in the first EU country where they set foot as the so-called Dublin regulations require.

http://www.thelocal.de/20151002/majority-of-germans-worried-about-refugees

pampango

(24,692 posts)
3. Confusing use of the terms "migrant", "refugee" and "asylum". A "migrant" would not qualify
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:10 AM
Oct 2015

for "asylum" but a "refugee" would. It would be fair for any country to turn away undocumented migrants that just show up at the border.

Any law that resulted in migrants being turned away at the border but allowed genuine refugees, and those who required more investigation - "cases where an asylum application was not clearly unfounded", into the country would make sense. I would think that most countries already have such laws. It is a bit surprising that Germany does not yet.

Support for Merkel, one of Germany's most popular post-war chancellors, is waning.. Some right-wing conservatives are even whispering that the crisis could raise questions over the future of the woman who has ruled since 2005.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/30/uk-europe-migrants-germany-idUKKCN0RU1ZW20150930

DFW

(54,253 posts)
4. Don't underestimate Merkel
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 07:07 AM
Oct 2015

She didn't get where she is by being stupid.

Germany is facing a situation it has never faced before. "How would you have done it better?" is a question not many (if any!) of her detractors are prepared to answer honestly, because there is no answer. Those in the CDU-CSU to her right have been chomping at the bit to get her out for years. The idea of a popular woman leading the country has eaten away at them for years. They were prepared to tolerate a woman chancellor for a few years. They were NOT prepared to have a clever woman chancellor who was so popular that even the Social Democrats were prepared to join her coalition as a junior partner, and keep her in for over a decade. The machos in her party don't like having to watch her take to a world stage they think should belong to one of them. They squashed Rita Süssmuth decades ago, and thought they could do the same to Merkel. Oops.

That having been said, this situation is in its infancy. Of the mass of humanity expected to arrive on our doorstep within the next few months, only the first few tens of thousands have shown up. When the number swells to fifty times that--THAT is when the crunch willcome, and the angry fingers will start to be pointed in all directions. They want to screen half a million people at the border? Which border, and where will they find all the native speakers of Arabic, Urdu, Punjabi, Bengali, Farsi and the rest? And who will shelter and feed the people waiting? And where? If 3½ people speaking those same languages all showed up at the border of Tijuana/San Diego, maybe that gives you an idea of what Obama would face in the way of criticism for his handling of such a situation, too, except that there IS no way we could handle it.

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