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jpak

(41,756 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 10:57 AM Oct 2015

Donald Trump on shooting: 'Horrible' but these things happen

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump says even if he becomes president, he doesn't expect to halt all mass shootings like the massacre at an Oregon community college Thursday because there will always be people that society can't stop.

Trump on Friday was asked what he would do as president to try to prevent attacks like the shooting at Umpqua Community College, but he said there are "millions and millions of sick people all over the world" that make it difficult, no matter how strong the laws are.

"You're going to have these things happen and it's a horrible thing to behold, horrible," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"It's not politically correct to say that, but you're going to have difficulty and that will be for the next million years, there's going to be difficulty and people are going to slip through the cracks," Trump added. "What are you going to do, institutionalize everybody?"

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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/politics/donald-trump-ucc-shooting-mccarthy-gop/

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Donald Trump on shooting: 'Horrible' but these things happen (Original Post) jpak Oct 2015 OP
Sh^t Happens Geronimoe Oct 2015 #1
Sh^t would happen every day if that heel became President. tabasco Oct 2015 #24
sh*t is happening now every day 840high Oct 2015 #33
Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country Botany Oct 2015 #2
Yeah Roy Rolling Oct 2015 #3
^^This needs to be repeated everywhere.^^ LuckyLib Oct 2015 #14
Trump and the GOP/teahadists must take responsibility Abouttime Oct 2015 #20
Since 2004, 300 terrroist attacks, 300,000 dead from non-military use of guns. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #35
These things happen--ONLY IN AMERICA! nt valerief Oct 2015 #4
In 2014 murphyj87 Oct 2015 #22
True American Exceptionalism kairos12 Oct 2015 #5
Based on the reaction and changes from Newtown ... LannyDeVaney Oct 2015 #6
Yeah, trump, fueled by hate mongers like yourself. jwirr Oct 2015 #7
If one of his kids was in the LibDemAlways Oct 2015 #8
What a LEADER! Liberalagogo Oct 2015 #9
he's just being more honest about it than the NRA stooges nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #10
Trump: "Meh, que sera sera" reflection Oct 2015 #11
Sounds like a true compassionate conservative response Rocknrule Oct 2015 #12
What a guy ailsagirl Oct 2015 #13
100% asshole /110% Republican C Moon Oct 2015 #15
Because admitting other countries do something better ... knightmaar Oct 2015 #16
To Trump's puffy lips from the NRA's puff lips: why bother with laws if some people will just be Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #17
He has no worries. Wayne Lapierre keeps him safe. Turbineguy Oct 2015 #18
Does LaPierre... 3catwoman3 Oct 2015 #30
Which begs another question. Turbineguy Oct 2015 #32
Sounds like a description of what his presidency would be like. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #19
Well we just have a clip Geronimoe Oct 2015 #21
Doesn't his logic apply to acts of terror? Yavin4 Oct 2015 #23
GOP is a logic free zone harun Oct 2015 #26
Holocaust - well things happen packman Oct 2015 #25
It happens alright: To a place where guns are accessible to everybody d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #27
How about a little mental health, Donny? HassleCat Oct 2015 #28
weirdly enough, restorefreedom Oct 2015 #29
What makes you think that? red dog 1 Oct 2015 #37
in the past restorefreedom Oct 2015 #40
I think you're right! NonMetro Oct 2015 #42
a drunk trump restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43
Trump on Pearl Harbor--These things happen. Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #31
Trump on Benghazi: "This happened under a black Democrat's leadership! Unacceptable!!!" Rocknrule Oct 2015 #34
Easy to say when none of your loved ones are in the path of the bullets. tanyev Oct 2015 #36
It's the same excuse we hear every time we have an economic crash - these things happen fasttense Oct 2015 #38
Moral midget. n/t moondust Oct 2015 #39
K&R...Thanks for posting, jpak red dog 1 Oct 2015 #41
these things happen because GUN HUMPING COWARDS HAVE WON Skittles Oct 2015 #44
Trump doesn't give a flying f..k! Is this the new meme for U.S. tragedies, shit happens? Afraid so. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #45
Gee, Don, you're a real fuckin healer-in-chief. Arkana Oct 2015 #46
when we manifest victory Rose77 Oct 2015 #47

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
3. Yeah
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:03 AM
Oct 2015

Somebody said 4 killed in Benghazi, three years of Congressional investigation. 30,000 a year killed from gun violence, whatcha gonna do?

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
20. Trump and the GOP/teahadists must take responsibility
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:07 PM
Oct 2015

The gunman was an admitted 'conservative republican' meaning he listens to Limbaugh, supports fascists like Trump, was groomed and inspired by tea party hate speech and armed by the NRA.
The root of the problem is two-fold, right wing hate from the likes of Palin, Trump, Limpballs etc
and readily available guns and ammo thanks to the gun humping NRA.
Any solution to the problem runs right through the 2.
I stand with our President, I pray he can come up with something to end this madness.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
35. Since 2004, 300 terrroist attacks, 300,000 dead from non-military use of guns.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:28 PM
Oct 2015

Kind of makes the whackos look just that much more insane.

murphyj87

(649 posts)
22. In 2014
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:21 PM
Oct 2015

In 2014, Muslim terrorists killed 2 Canadians

In 2014, American gun owners killed 48 Canadians.

This proves that American gun owners are 24 times more dangerous than Muslim terrorists.

The way to eliminate the monthly mass shootings in the US is to repeal the Second Amendment an to declare the NRA the terrorist organization it is.

Here in Canada, as in all other western nations that lead the US every way that counts, owning a gun is an easily revokable privilege and not any kind of so called "right" at all.

In 3 major rulings, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that owning a gun is neither a specified nor an implied right, but that owning a gun is an easily revokable privilege, as owning a gun should be in the US.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
8. If one of his kids was in the
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:18 AM
Oct 2015

line of fire, he'd change his tune. Countries with strict gun laws aren't the free for all shooting galleries we've become. The well regulated militia is a concept whose time is long past, and the founding fathers would no doubt be appalled by how their words have been twisted to justify mass carnage in the 21st century. Sadly, if Newtown wasn't enough to budge the gun nuts and the legislators owned by the NRA, nothing can.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
12. Sounds like a true compassionate conservative response
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:34 AM
Oct 2015

"Yea that sucks, but small price to pay for our sacred, holy, Jesus-given right to bear arms"

Such good, moral, wholesome Christians

knightmaar

(748 posts)
16. Because admitting other countries do something better ...
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:51 AM
Oct 2015

... would be like cutting off a bald eagle's testicles, or something.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. To Trump's puffy lips from the NRA's puff lips: why bother with laws if some people will just be
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:56 AM
Oct 2015

disobeying them?

As childishly dishonest and childishly illogical as the bloodthirsty children that they are.

Turbineguy

(37,293 posts)
18. He has no worries. Wayne Lapierre keeps him safe.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:57 AM
Oct 2015

It's a challenge. On many levels.

The first challenge is to get weapons and ammunition into the hands of mentally ill people. My friend's Lady Wife who is a Psychiatrist says that about 3% of the population is more or less mentally ill. Of course, most of these people are harmless, just sick and trying to get through the day as best they can.

The second challenge is to make sure the ones that are dangerous shoot the right people. You know, small children, but the kind who go to public schools. Also older students who are ordinary people just trying to better their lives. And of course Jews, Muslims, Sikhs and those of other faiths and let's not forget: People of Color.

The important thing is that the wrong people don't get shot. Those would be republican politicians, right-wing-hate-radio talkshow hosts, shyster evangelical pastors, hedge fund managers. And of course Wayne Lapierre himself!

I'm thinking Wayne must get nice letters and perhaps even awards from people in Al Qeada and IS, who, although they prefer to do the work themselves, are never the less thankful for help.

Yes, Trump can rest assured he won't get his hair mussed.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
21. Well we just have a clip
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

I wonder and question whether he at least offered condolences to the victims' families?

harun

(11,348 posts)
26. GOP is a logic free zone
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:18 PM
Oct 2015

No public display of critical reasoning or critical thinking is allowed, ever. At least publicly the candidates can't exhibit it. Obviously Carson and Trump use it in their day jobs.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
25. Holocaust - well things happen
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

Great Depression - Hey, shit happens; massacre at Wounded Knee - Rotten, but what the hell: Ignoring New Orleans after Katrina - Nature's a bitch

Nothing we can do - fate's fate

What leadership

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
27. It happens alright: To a place where guns are accessible to everybody
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:27 PM
Oct 2015

and all it takes is someone who loses their cool to act on their desire to kill (insert person or group here) and have America pay attention for five seconds. Then its back to what the Kardashians are doing next.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
28. How about a little mental health, Donny?
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:29 PM
Oct 2015

Of course you can't propose rebuilding any part of the mental health system that Saint Ronald tore down. That would be socialism.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
29. weirdly enough,
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:48 PM
Oct 2015

I think he might be one of the GOP candidates most likely to be willing to go against the NRA and implement some commonsense gun-control if he were president.

red dog 1

(27,781 posts)
37. What makes you think that?
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:46 PM
Oct 2015

I think Trump is as spineless as any of the other GOP clown-candidates, and I sincerely doubt that he would ever "go against the NRA & implement some commonsense gun-control if he were president."

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
40. in the past
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 07:02 PM
Oct 2015

he has had "liberal" positions on health care, even hints that he could support single payer. i also think he might be the only person who does not give a shit what the nra thinks of him. i don't have any quotes from him. it is just a guess.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
42. I think you're right!
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:35 PM
Oct 2015

Of course, Trump might support the NRA after a couple of beers, and then not support it after a couple more.

Still, we could do a lot worse than Trump on the GOP side. He actually looks sane and stable compared to the rest of them.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
43. a drunk trump
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:54 PM
Oct 2015

now that would be something to see!

and the fact that he might be the sanest of the bunch is terrifying and yet i guess if he is, good that he is leading

tanyev

(42,521 posts)
36. Easy to say when none of your loved ones are in the path of the bullets.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:43 PM
Oct 2015

And you lack the capacity for empathy.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
38. It's the same excuse we hear every time we have an economic crash - these things happen
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:51 PM
Oct 2015

But you don't see the rich suffering too much from these things. Yeah, once in a great while a rich person or their child will get in the line of fire. Once in a great while the rich will be conned and their money stolen. But mostly they avoid the crazies they create with their hate media and gun fetishism, just like they avoid the economic crashes they create with capitalism.

We have to have these regular shootings because some rich person is making huge profits off of it. Just like we have to have these regular economic crashes with capitalism because some already rich person is making himself more riches. These things just happen by ...magic? chance?

red dog 1

(27,781 posts)
41. K&R...Thanks for posting, jpak
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 07:21 PM
Oct 2015

From the OP:
"Trump on Friday was asked what he would do as president to try to prevent attacks like the shooting at Umpoqua Community College, but he said that there are "millions and millions of sick people all over the world" that make it difficult, no matter how strong the laws are."




"11 Essential facts about guns and mass shootings in America"


(# 8) -- "States with stricter gun control laws have fewer deaths from gun-related violence."

"Higher populations, more stress, more immigrants, and MORE MENTAL ILLNESS were not correlated with more deaths from gun violence.
States with tighter gun control laws appear to have fewer gun-related deaths."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/01/shooting-in-oregon-11-essential-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-america

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
45. Trump doesn't give a flying f..k! Is this the new meme for U.S. tragedies, shit happens? Afraid so.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 09:32 PM
Oct 2015

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
46. Gee, Don, you're a real fuckin healer-in-chief.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 09:53 PM
Oct 2015

He might as well say "I wanna be President, but only on the good days."

 

Rose77

(57 posts)
47. when we manifest victory
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:58 PM
Oct 2015

his "ilk" will sit in a prison full of those they've hurt, he will know fear

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